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XO Don Young (R-AK): Jews Killed In Holocaust bc Nazi Gun Control

180 but disgusting that shitlib kikes aren't saying this whe...
snowy laughsome tank
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Chestnut stead foreskin
  02/28/18
This isn’t a new argument. Ben Shapiro said something very s...
costumed alpha public bath
  02/28/18
it's not a new argument. it's an old argument and self-hatin...
snowy laughsome tank
  02/28/18
jews in general are too effeminate to care about gun rights.
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  02/28/18
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bateful khaki gay wizard gas station
  02/28/18
then we should trust rank-and-file american prole goyim to p...
snowy laughsome tank
  02/28/18
i actually think if all these sissy urban elites spent some ...
iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage
  02/28/18
cr in theory. sissy urban elites would be too closed-minded ...
snowy laughsome tank
  02/28/18
I am a sissy urban elite and I have a handgun that I go to t...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
^^ the liberal "man", everybody
iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage
  02/28/18
Yeah, you go shoot at American soldiers and law enforcement ...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
guy who didn't fight back against the nazis
Hilarious Chapel
  02/28/18
Yes, Jews would have been so much more popular if they just ...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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LMAO Yes, it's conservatives painting LEO and soldiers as...
sienna church
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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-trump-intell...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
#BlackLivesMatter I don't think most people equate CIA t...
sienna church
  02/28/18
What about the FBI? If you need guns because you have to sto...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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I think that's one way to look at it, but most people want g...
sienna church
  02/28/18
I'm a gun owner, and I don't care if I'm in a federal regist...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase...
sienna church
  02/28/18
You guys are idiots.
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
Not really, no. We just happen to know history.
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
So you want to kill cops and soldiers if you feel they becom...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
Yes actually
comical roommate dingle berry
  02/28/18
Yes, absolutely.
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
Duh that’s the point of the 2nd amendment
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Conservatives want guns so they could prevent themselves fro...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
Liberals literally think cops are all KKK members out to kil...
sienna church
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I see that you can't give a straight answer so you can only ...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
Yes... it's racist to be worried about some races being more...
sienna church
  02/28/18
kill all the good keeds that didden du nuffin.
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
A) The Nazis had a very broad definition of Jewish (all it t...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
cr. many Jewish and German people got along very well.
iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage
  02/28/18
German Jews were more assimilated than Jews in other countri...
Aromatic generalized bond private investor
  02/28/18
Right, or Orthodox Jews and such. No one thought they meant...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
Which was the reason for the cover-up. If everyone just hat...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
If Jews were running around killing Germans, then they were ...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
JFC shitlibs. No one is suggesting they start randomly exec...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
First, the Jews were tricked into death camps, so guns would...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
1) This is your best argument, but that would only work on t...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
Nah. Germans did not like Jews. My point is that the Nazis w...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
"Nah. Germans did not like Jews." Many American...
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  02/28/18
Look dude, we know you are dead set against violently rebell...
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Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
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Do Steve Paddock and Adam Lanza count as "gun guys?&quo...
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  02/28/18
Newsflash: The white supremacists chanting "JEWS WILL N...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
That's a cultural issue among many American Jews though. Th...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
What the fuck are you talking about?
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
I took your comment to note that White Supremacists are much...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
Well the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto who managed to get guns d...
lascivious indirect expression
  02/28/18
Yeah. Now imagine that this happened everywhere and not just...
costumed alpha public bath
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snowy laughsome tank
  02/28/18
Let's be honest here. If everyone in Germany had a gun, then...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
I mean they definitely would have been outgunned by the Germ...
lascivious indirect expression
  02/28/18
You are absolutely correct. That's what people don't underst...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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Hard to know if serious or not but the "Soviet tank eng...
dashing self-absorbed macaca
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
They dropped Ziyklon B into canisters in the gas chambers.
lascivious indirect expression
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tcr. I can't imagine using tank fuel for that in the middle...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
The tank fuel was only used in a recycling sense to kill pas...
comical roommate dingle berry
  02/28/18
I get that, but it is fuel that otherwise could have gone to...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
You're thinking about the mixed-use camps that started off a...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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That is even more bizarre. I could imagine using some makes...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
You need to kill *and dispose of* hundreds of thousands of p...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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Actually, I get it. I reread and they mentioned the engines...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
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I doubt this. They’d want to but the risk of being shot back...
costumed alpha public bath
  02/28/18
Nah. Jews were a minority. If Jews were just shooting German...
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Perfectly ordinary-looking roller coasters with one weird tw...
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Aromatic generalized bond private investor
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"The Germans hid the true nature of the Holocaust prett...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
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Nah. It was more efficient to trick the Jews to walk into th...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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Yet, in occupied territories in Poland they made considerabl...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
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"Let's be honest here. If everyone in Germany had a gun...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
Oh, yes, the innocent Germans, who were okay with their Jewi...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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Just like Americans were fine with segregation, blacks not g...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
I would just shut off their water and blockade the roads and...
Opaque glittery meetinghouse
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They did that in the Warsaw ghetto. How long did that take?...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
Israeli's in settlements are carrying assault rifles everywh...
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snowy laughsome tank
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No open borders in Israel either. Hmm.
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Israel is a theocracy that functions as an apartheid nation....
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snowy laughsome tank
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In fact, they built a wall. And it works! They've also bee...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
For reasons that cannot be explained, there is a strong cult...
mahogany property
  02/28/18
they're mentally ill
Aromatic generalized bond private investor
  02/28/18
theres an extremely obvious explanation for this
Adventurous heaven
  02/28/18
If more white evangelical christians had exposure to jews, t...
big-titted aquamarine set roast beef
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Not just that, but a greater threat than other minorities (i...
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Haha wow there are actually people who still believe in the ...
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Aromatic generalized bond private investor
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I'm Jewish and I've made this case ever since I was a month ...
comical roommate dingle berry
  02/28/18
Oh, for realz?
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
Ben Carson said this during the election, btw: http://www.ms...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
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snowy laughsome tank
  02/28/18
Yeah, suggesting that the Jews got slaughtered in the Holoca...
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
  02/28/18
The point was fighting back was much harder because they did...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
https://i.imgur.com/ZT6gZM5.jpg You wouldn't have fought....
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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I would have fought and probably died where I stood, along w...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
the jews in prewar germany were fucked either way because th...
Concupiscible greedy step-uncle's house
  02/28/18
Judaism was at war with Nazism since 1933. My grandpa left P...
comical roommate dingle berry
  02/28/18
https://i.imgur.com/ZT6gZM5.jpg
Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting
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Not sure what you think that is demonstrating.
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
So in other words, they would have fought and died but cost ...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
well no, because warsaw was a foreign occupied city where th...
Concupiscible greedy step-uncle's house
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how is a gun useful to a jew unless you have a goy pulling t...
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bateful khaki gay wizard gas station
  02/28/18
This is an incredibly naive way to look at things. The l...
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Naive in what sense? No one is saying they would have defea...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
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what's australia's or the uk's reason?
startled demanding sanctuary
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They're liberal pussies. But the point is they're not worri...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  02/28/18
ok, even under ideal circumstances what would armed Polish j...
At-the-ready bat shit crazy milk
  03/01/18
wouldn't have stopped it but would've made it harder http...
Swashbuckling locus
  02/28/18
Already discussed ITT. But in reality, the argument is bad. ...
lascivious indirect expression
  03/01/18
Yes, the initial crowd was duped, but later people still had...
Flushed mewling clown digit ratio
  03/01/18
lifelong conservative, bill-of-rights reptile voter here but...
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank

180 but disgusting that shitlib kikes aren't saying this when everyone knows it's the truth.

http://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/US-congressman-Jews-killed-in-Holocaust-because-they-were-unarmed-543818

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35504998)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: Chestnut stead foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505036)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: costumed alpha public bath

This isn’t a new argument. Ben Shapiro said something very similar on piers Morgan several years ago. Something like, “if my grandparents had been armed, maybe they wouldn’t be ash.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505060)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank

it's not a new argument. it's an old argument and self-hating shitlib kike gun-grabbers get MAF every time it's made.

it's an old argument that needs to be repeated because most people dont know it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505065)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage

jews in general are too effeminate to care about gun rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505080)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: bateful khaki gay wizard gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505084)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank

then we should trust rank-and-file american prole goyim to protect us against the government and to step up and protect us when the government can't/won't.

i don't see myself owning a gun anytime soon. no time to learn to shoot properly. but i'd be thrilled if law-abiding goyim in MFH all had CCWs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505113)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage

i actually think if all these sissy urban elites spent some time around gun guys, they'd realize that they're good people and that they take gun safety and security VERY seriously. and if anything bad goes down, you 100% want those guys to be carrying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505137)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank

cr in theory. sissy urban elites would be too closed-minded to even give "gun guys" a fair shot tho. the presence of a normal heterosexual male gives them nightmares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505151)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

I am a sissy urban elite and I have a handgun that I go to the range with often. HOWEVER, if the government starts oppressing motherfuckers (who aren't me or my loved ones) I'm not taking a bullet for you'll motherfuckers. My handgun is not doing shit against a Predator drone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505168)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage

^^ the liberal "man", everybody

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505182)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Yeah, you go shoot at American soldiers and law enforcement officers. Is that the real conservative man, a cop-killer? If not, then who do you think will be fighting for the oppressive government if not soldiers and law enforcement, you dumbfuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505193)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Hilarious Chapel

guy who didn't fight back against the nazis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505221)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Yes, Jews would have been so much more popular if they just started shooting at German police officers and soldiers. It's sickening how obsessed the right-wing is with painting law enforcement and soldiers as Nazis, especially with the FBI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505233)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: sienna church

LMAO

Yes, it's conservatives painting LEO and soldiers as Nazis. How did you even reconcile that in your head prior to poasting?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507651)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-trump-intelligence-nazi-dossier-buzzfeed-20170111-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508462)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: sienna church

#BlackLivesMatter

I don't think most people equate CIA to Law Enforcement or Military.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508490)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

What about the FBI? If you need guns because you have to stop the Nazis, then who do you think plays the Nazis in this scenario other than cops and soldiers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508504)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: sienna church

I think that's one way to look at it, but most people want guns to protect themselves from buckwild negroes. I don't think many people against gun control are really that worried about confiscation from military or LE. It's a talking point, but I cannot fathom our own LEO's and military actually confiscating weapons. There would be an all out mutiny before that happened.

If they came though, I'm sure I would go down in flames as a deranged gun nut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508532)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

I'm a gun owner, and I don't care if I'm in a federal registry of gun owners because I'm not afraid of cops kicking in my door to get my gun. If shit goes down, then I'm not doing shit because I have a wife and kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508545)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: sienna church

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Hardly any of my guns are registered or even required a background check and are in no way tied to me. I want to keep it that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508565)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

You guys are idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508576)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Not really, no. We just happen to know history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508623)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

So you want to kill cops and soldiers if you feel they become Nazis. Got it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508647)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: comical roommate dingle berry

Yes actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508718)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Yes, absolutely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508732)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Personal Credit Line

Duh that’s the point of the 2nd amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510572)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Conservatives want guns so they could prevent themselves from being the Jews on the Holocaust. Who are the Nazis in this scenario? Hint: LEO and soldiers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508475)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: sienna church

Liberals literally think cops are all KKK members out to kill all the good keeds that didden du nuffin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508499)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

I see that you can't give a straight answer so you can only freak out in a racist manner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508507)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: sienna church

Yes... it's racist to be worried about some races being more prone to violence in America than others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508543)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

kill all the good keeds that didden du nuffin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508548)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

A) The Nazis had a very broad definition of Jewish (all it took was 1 Jewish grandparent) in a society that had a ton of conversion and intermarriage. A bunch of these people were seen by their neighbors as normal, Christian people. Many were also WW1 veterans. For that reason, they NEEDED them to come quietly.

B) If you think images of people dying as they battle stormtroopers trying to protect their families wouldn't have struck a nerve with others in Germany and destroyed the Nazis image of bringing law and order to the country, then you're kidding yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507740)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: iridescent cocky genital piercing theater stage

cr. many Jewish and German people got along very well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507793)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Aromatic generalized bond private investor

German Jews were more assimilated than Jews in other countries. They even supported some of Hitler's early anti-jew rhetoric because they felt it was directed at Eastern Euro trashcan Jews like DBG who they also hated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507866)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Right, or Orthodox Jews and such. No one thought they meant the Catholic guy with a Jewish grandpa he didn't even know about. Which, incidentally, was a huge headache for the Catholic Church which had to save Catholics regardless of how Nazis classified them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507900)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Which was the reason for the cover-up. If everyone just hated the Jews then they could have openly butchered them in the streets and it would have been nbd. Instead, they had to get them to come along quietly and meekly and not attract attention. People figured they were going to Madagascar (seriously, this was a popular theory) and many thought things like "they're probably better off, there's a war going on anyway."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507880)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

If Jews were running around killing Germans, then they were going to get slaughtered on the streets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508470)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

JFC shitlibs. No one is suggesting they start randomly executing other German citizens. They're saying they would fight back against soldiers coming to take them and their families away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508516)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

First, the Jews were tricked into death camps, so guns wouldn't have helped. Second, if Jews were killing soldiers, then the rest of Germany would have helped in killing the Jews. If all the Jews in your neighborhood starts killing cops and soldiers, then would you help the cops with the Jewish problem?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508537)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

1) This is your best argument, but that would only work on the first Jews. Eventually, people caught on and were unable to fight back because they had no guns.

2) I don't really buy this at all. When we hear about cops and US troops in standoffs we always ask "wtf is going on?" We don't volunteer to run and help them murder whoever is involved in the standoff.

"If all the Jews in your neighborhood starts killing cops and soldiers, then would you help the cops with the Jewish problem?"

Depends on what I'm seeing. If I see suddenly cops are attacking a bunch of households because they want to grab Jews and send them to camps and you see little children cowering in corners as mommy and daddy fight to their deaths to protect them, I'm definitely not helping the cops/soldiers. In fact, I'm going to be horrified by what I'm seeing and worry about wtf is happening in my government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508579)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Nah. Germans did not like Jews. My point is that the Nazis weren't working against the general public. Hitler outright trashed Jews and everyone was okay with shit like making them wear yellow stars. The idea of the "innocent German" is simple horseshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508658)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

"Nah. Germans did not like Jews."

Many Americans don't like black people. That is just how it is. You see it on XO but ultimately many people are just more quiet about it. How many whites or Asians are cool living in a black neighborhood?

Despite that, how many of us would be cool with death squads attacking black families? How many of us, if they saw black families fighting to the end to save themselves and their children, would side with those that want to murder them? Most would be horrified and want the black families to win. I'm willing to bet that is overwhelmingly true on XO, which is pretty openly racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508717)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: comical roommate dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508744)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Personal Credit Line

Look dude, we know you are dead set against violently rebelling against an immoral murderous government. We also get that you don’t think guns would have helped the Jews. We think guns would have helped the Jews and if libs go full South Africa, we’re ready to fight. We’re not giving up our AR-15s so fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510602)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510628)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: Opaque glittery meetinghouse

Do Steve Paddock and Adam Lanza count as "gun guys?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508584)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Newsflash: The white supremacists chanting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!" are the gun nuts who will have all the guns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505156)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

That's a cultural issue among many American Jews though. There's nothing that makes this inherently the case. Also, there are many more Jews in America than American Nazis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507804)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

What the fuck are you talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508708)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

I took your comment to note that White Supremacists are much more likely to own guns than American Jews, which seems right to me. But that is a cultural issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508726)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: lascivious indirect expression

Well the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto who managed to get guns did fight back and managed to keep the Germans at bay for almost 3 weeks. They had to bring in tanks and artillery to suppress and crush it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505087)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: costumed alpha public bath

Yeah. Now imagine that this happened everywhere and not just in one place. Would have made the holocaust a lot harder to execute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505108)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505118)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Let's be honest here. If everyone in Germany had a gun, then the Germans would have walked over and shot their Jewish neighbors in the head, especially if Jews were being Jewey and shooting people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505133)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: lascivious indirect expression

I mean they definitely would have been outgunned by the German Wehrmacht, and I doubt it would have made a huge difference. A lot of Jews when they were being relocated did not realize ultimately what was coming. The Germans hid their intentions until the very last moment when it was clear they were going to be slaughtered. They told people they would be getting showers. There was mass deception involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505152)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

You are absolutely correct. That's what people don't understand about the Holocaust. The Germans went to a lot of trouble to hide the nature of their evil plans from everyone, especially the victims. If you were telling everyone that they were going to death camps, there'd be revolutions left and right. The Germans left just enough hope that the Jews might survive, until they went into a "shower" and were suffocated with fumes from stolen Soviet tank engines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505208)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: dashing self-absorbed macaca

Hard to know if serious or not but the "Soviet tank engine" allegation was bunk and has been disproven.

A few quick points:

1. A constantly running diesel needs reconditioning. Where were they getting the parts? Was there a supply of Soviet tank engines?

2. Gasoline engines produce 28X more CO than diesels. Why use diesel?

3. A gasifier engine produces even more CO and does not use petroleum products which were in extremely short supply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505279)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508526)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:39 AM
Author: lascivious indirect expression

They dropped Ziyklon B into canisters in the gas chambers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505573)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

tcr. I can't imagine using tank fuel for that in the middle of a war. The whole point of Zyklon B and moving everyone to central camps was that it was cheap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507770)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: comical roommate dingle berry

The tank fuel was only used in a recycling sense to kill passengers. They would use the waste product from the engines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508401)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

I get that, but it is fuel that otherwise could have gone to the front. Fuel is useful and expensive. Zyklon B is neither.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508410)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

You're thinking about the mixed-use camps that started off as slave labor camps, but then switched to death camps. Nazis also had purpose-built death camps that no one speaks about because hardly anyone survived.

For instance, at Treblinka:

"The gassing area was entirely closed off with tall wooden fencing made of vertical boards. Originally, it consisted of three interconnected barracks 8 metres (26 ft) long and 4 metres (13 ft) wide, disguised as showers. They had double walls insulated by earth packed down in between. The interior walls and ceilings were lined with roofing paper. The floors were covered with tin-plated sheet metal, the same material used for the roof. Solid wooden doors were insulated with rubber and bolted from the outside by heavy cross-bars.[75]

"The victims were gassed to death with the exhaust fumes conducted through pipes from an engine of a Red Army tank.[m][105] SS-Scharführer Erich Fuchs was responsible for installing it.[106][107] The engine was brought in by the SS at the time of the camp's construction and housed in a room with a generator that supplied the camp with electricity.[75] The tank engine exhaust pipe ran just below the ground and opened into all three gas chambers.[75] The fumes could be seen seeping out. After about 20 minutes the bodies were removed by dozens of Sonderkommandos, placed onto carts and wheeled away. The system was imperfect and required a lot of effort;[107] trains that arrived later in the day had to wait on layover tracks overnight at Treblinka, Małkinia, or Wólka Okrąglik.[85]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp

You have to remember that the Nazis were bringing in millions of victims by train. A single fucking engine doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508496)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

That is even more bizarre. I could imagine using some makeshift execution device either a) in the field (can't ship victims back to a camp), or b) in a mixed use scenario where you expect fewer executions. If you're designing a pure death camp your entire objective is to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible and as cheaply as possible. In any event, I suppose death camps were generally inefficient in nature...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508538)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

You need to kill *and dispose of* hundreds of thousands of people. You need the victims to walk themselves to the gallows, as it were, simply out of logistics. Treblinka and similar death camps had pyres and purpose-built bone grinders to help destroy evidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508570)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Actually, I get it. I reread and they mentioned the engines were being used as generators anyway, so they were just reusing the fumes.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508618)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: costumed alpha public bath

I doubt this. They’d want to but the risk of being shot back would be high enough to prevent it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505160)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Nah. Jews were a minority. If Jews were just shooting Germans, then the Huns would have slaughtered the Jews outright. The Germans hid the true nature of the Holocaust pretty well among the rank and file. Even Holocaust victims at death camps were lead to believe until the last moment that they were going to survive. The elderly and infirm were taken to "hospitals" where they were shot in the head. There were fake signs posted about the next camp that they were going to get sent to. I mean, the whole thing was set up as a deception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505188)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: vivacious pistol

Perfectly ordinary-looking roller coasters with one weird twist at the end...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505198)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Aromatic generalized bond private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505225)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

"The Germans hid the true nature of the Holocaust pretty well among the rank and file."

Which they did exactly because most Germans would not be running to shoot their Jewish neighbors in the head. If everyone thought that was a great idea then they wouldn't have needed to hide anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507660)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Nah. It was more efficient to trick the Jews to walk into the death camps than to chase them around, shoot them, and then carry their bodies to the crematoriums.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508663)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Yet, in occupied territories in Poland they made considerably less effort to conceal the camps. Why do you suppose that is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510457)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

"Let's be honest here. If everyone in Germany had a gun, then the Germans would have walked over and shot their Jewish neighbors in the head, especially if Jews were being Jewey and shooting people."

That is a hell of an assumption. Everyone in the US had guns during WW1 and WW2 and weren't shooting people of German descent or Japanese people. In any event, they would have been in much better shape than they actually were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507639)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:34 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Oh, yes, the innocent Germans, who were okay with their Jewish neighbors being forced to wear yellow stars, carted away to mysterious camps, would NOT be okay with guns.

https://i.imgur.com/ZT6gZM5.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508681)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Just like Americans were fine with segregation, blacks not getting hired for a bunch of jobs, etc. However, Americans would not have been fine with mass murdering black people. They just wouldn't have been.

As to mystery camps, very few people thought they were actually murdering millions of people in the middle of a war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508753)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Opaque glittery meetinghouse

I would just shut off their water and blockade the roads and starve them out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508595)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

They did that in the Warsaw ghetto. How long did that take?

If there were a bunch of standoffs all over Germany, what do you think the effect of that would be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508630)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: Cracking obsidian kitty

Israeli's in settlements are carrying assault rifles everywhere and yet...no guns here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505121)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505126)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: geriatric bonkers menage haunted graveyard

No open borders in Israel either. Hmm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505138)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Israel is a theocracy that functions as an apartheid nation. We don't do that shit in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505213)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Aromatic generalized bond private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505227)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: snowy laughsome tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505228)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

In fact, they built a wall. And it works! They've also been deporting illegals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507709)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: mahogany property

For reasons that cannot be explained, there is a strong cultural belief among Jews that the average white christian is far more of a threat to them than the government. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505185)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Aromatic generalized bond private investor

they're mentally ill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505229)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Adventurous heaven

theres an extremely obvious explanation for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505241)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: big-titted aquamarine set roast beef

If more white evangelical christians had exposure to jews, they'd all be in ovens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507621)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Not just that, but a greater threat than other minorities (including Muslims). I can point out a number of riots that pwn3d Jews in the US (Crown Heights most recently), none of which were led by white Christians. It is bizarre but I'm starting to suspect that many Jews are more scared of their kids marrying Christians and starting a nice Christian family than they are about getting got, which makes zero sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507686)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: Onyx violent brunch

Haha wow there are actually people who still believe in the so-called "holocaust" ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35505262)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: bateful khaki gay wizard gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507601)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Aromatic generalized bond private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507767)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: comical roommate dingle berry

I'm Jewish and I've made this case ever since I was a month or so into extensively studying the Holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507783)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Oh, for realz?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508581)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Ben Carson said this during the election, btw: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carson-holocaust-theory-prompts-outcry-jewish-groups

Objections to this and "outcry" is purely political, btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507825)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: snowy laughsome tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35507846)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

Yeah, suggesting that the Jews got slaughtered in the Holocaust because they didn't fight back hard enough shouldn't be controversial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508514)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

The point was fighting back was much harder because they didn't have guns. Telling someone to fight back against a bunch of armed soldiers when they're defenseless is a somewhat pointless exercise.

But, if I realize I'm dying and that my murderers are coming, and I have a gun, I'm going to use it. Multiply that effect across millions of people, and suddenly murdering 6 million+ people becomes a hell of an effort. But because there was a disarmed population it was remarkably easy.

I don't understand the argument that it is offensive to note this. And as someone who is Jewish enough to have been shoved into an oven during WW2 who is married to another person that also fits that description, I would have desperately have wanted to have guns during that time. Yeah, we may have died anyway, but I would have wanted to die fighting. My wife feels similarly. Shitlibs would have wanted to deny me that and people like Ben Carson is promoting that people like me should have had that option. So why would I direct my rage at Ben Carson?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508668)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

https://i.imgur.com/ZT6gZM5.jpg

You wouldn't have fought. You can go with them to a camp, or they will murder your family then and there. You will go with them to a camp. There's nothing cowardly or wrong about it; in fact, the Nazis were very good and making Jews believe that they were going to be given a chance to live right up to the death showers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508696)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

I would have fought and probably died where I stood, along with my wife and children. That's just how it is because I prefer to die with a gun in my hand and because suffering and then dying is worse. I will hand my children guns and tell them to fight to the end. Just as my parents raised me that in a fight I'm to fight to win or die trying. Out of my 4 grandparents, 3 fought in the war. Both of grandfather's medal collections were impressive. My grandmother's was epic. Their parents and extended families had many soldiers and officers as well. We've been a military family for as far back as I'm aware.

But the more I ponder this the more I realize the effect would have been if anything more significant. During the Warsaw uprising the Polish resistance assisted heavily. In other words, you assume the Germans would run and help the soldiers. In reality, there's a better chance of Germans helping the families. And whatever you may think about how the Germans viewed the Jews, the Poles REALLY hated them with a passion. But even many Poles felt obligated to help the Jews in their fight.

As to your picture, you're showing uniformed brownshirts following orders and putting up some mean signs. This isn't remotely what we're talking about here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508838)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible greedy step-uncle's house

the jews in prewar germany were fucked either way because the general population was against them. you can't sustain an armed insurgency with no real supply lines into the country (for food, etc.) when you're surrounded by a hostile populace. that just results in a brief civil war concluded with a giant massacre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508481)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: comical roommate dingle berry

Judaism was at war with Nazism since 1933. My grandpa left Poland in 1935 for the United States. Some went with. Most everyone else (including Jews) told him that he was being histrionic and crazy for thinking that it was unsafe to stay in Europe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508520)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mentally impaired famous landscape painting

https://i.imgur.com/ZT6gZM5.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508699)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Not sure what you think that is demonstrating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508875)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

So in other words, they would have fought and died but cost Germany many time the resources, at a massive political and internal cost to a degree that would have shaken the Nazi government to the core. That is a worst-case scenario. At best, it would have become a fiasco just like the Warsaw ghetto was, except on a much larger scale to a degree that Germany would have had to reduce the focus away from exterminating the Jews.

I'll take it, seems like either way a much better version of history than what actually happened. And it entirely supports the assertion that it would have been much better if the population was armed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508865)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 3:32 AM
Author: Concupiscible greedy step-uncle's house

well no, because warsaw was a foreign occupied city where the local poles were hostile to the germans and could field an insurgency to begin with. germany itself was filled with fanatical patriots, meaning that an "insurgency" as an organized sort of thing never could have even started, because it would have been immediately destroyed by everyone around it. not just uniformed german soldiers, but EVERYONE. jewish rebels in a building would just get arsoned to death by their own neighbors before the authorities even got involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35512250)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: chartreuse quadroon

how is a gun useful to a jew unless you have a goy pulling the trigger for you? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508505)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: bateful khaki gay wizard gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35508549)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: At-the-ready bat shit crazy milk

This is an incredibly naive way to look at things.

The liberal Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold and the communist Roter Frontkämpferbund were both armed paramilitary organizations that were completely suppressed by their rivals.

Militias fighting on the street was the way of the world back then, exactly as conservaturds hope USA would be given any sort of revolution.

The Nazi and Soviet strategy was to exterminate the biggest threats first.

also,

There were actually quite a few trained jews, but they were all focused on Israel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35509784)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Naive in what sense? No one is saying they would have defeated the German Army. We are saying it would make rounding up and killing millions of people much harder. Full stop.

"The Nazi and Soviet strategy was to exterminate the biggest threats first."

It was also their strategy to disarm the population for obvious reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510302)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:08 PM
Author: startled demanding sanctuary

what's australia's or the uk's reason?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510479)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

They're liberal pussies. But the point is they're not worried about the scenario we're describing here. You're just supposed to trust the government to protect you. And if they don't then you're fucked.

But regardless of how you feel about gun control, I don't comprehend how the holocaust isn't a legit argument in favor of gun rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510493)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 2:07 AM
Author: At-the-ready bat shit crazy milk

ok, even under ideal circumstances what would armed Polish jews have done exactly after the Polish army collapsed from invasion from both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union?

Are you saying they should have been unwilling to surrender their arms?

Faced certain death as Nazis came door to door just so they could have killed a nazi at a time? They would have been de-armed in less than a week. You need more than just guns.

Poland got completely obliterated despite having a a resilient resistance that continually sought to be armed. What the jews could have done was nothing in comparison.

At the end of the day, this is like asking why did the jews just line up to get shot in the back of the head instead of trying to harm the guys who were shooting them. It's much more complicated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35512061)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Swashbuckling locus

wouldn't have stopped it but would've made it harder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35510488)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: lascivious indirect expression

Already discussed ITT. But in reality, the argument is bad. Some Jews did have guns, it didn't do much, it didn't prevent anything, and if you have the actual army against you and they're the ones tasked with deporting you to a death camp, there ain't much that's gonna help. Additionally, the lengths that Nazis went to to conceal their ultimate goals was staggering. People heard rumors, but no one would, could believe what was actually happening. Also, there wasn't a real way to confirm it because well the people who could confirm it were imprisoned or dead. It was like they simply disappeared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35511399)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: Flushed mewling clown digit ratio

Yes, the initial crowd was duped, but later people still had little ability to fight back. The Warsaw ghetto was one counter-example, but there would have been many more if guns were widely available.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35513263)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 2:13 AM
Author: salmon aggressive bawdyhouse nibblets

lifelong conservative, bill-of-rights reptile voter here but this quote, if true, just 180 flipped me to to single-issue gun control voter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906247&forum_id=2#35512079)