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Why was the movie Hannibal so underrated and poorly received by critics?

you have Ridley Scott coming off Gladiator directing a David...
turquoise theater stage
  03/18/18
>based on some of Thomas Harris' best source material ...
Irate chad
  03/18/18
Eh, it's fun. Super bloated and abandons characterization fo...
aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
It's schlock. Mason Verger is sodomized by his sister with a...
Irate chad
  03/18/18
Yes, it's schlock. That's sorta my point.
aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
Your point was that his best source material is complete shi...
Irate chad
  03/18/18
No.
aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
Yeah it was awesome, I think some critics had this idea that...
dashing coral shrine
  03/18/18
the ending was so fucking good. everything from the final se...
turquoise theater stage
  03/18/18
Have you seen the TV show? It is so fucking crazy and good.
dashing coral shrine
  03/18/18
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aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
yes i watched every episode and used to troll for it here. I...
turquoise theater stage
  03/18/18
You mean the ones with the moose? Some of them were pretty t...
dashing coral shrine
  03/18/18
180 Show. I’m a huge gore lover and I am amazed at the stuff...
Sexy wonderful house
  03/18/18
Some of the most disturbing violence I've ever seen was on t...
dashing coral shrine
  03/18/18
I remember hearing that they were having a problem with gett...
Sexy wonderful house
  03/18/18
180
dashing coral shrine
  03/18/18
God bless America
aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
His azn protege? Wut
Slippery cruel-hearted temple international law enforcement agency
  03/18/18
The book was compulsively readable but ljl at the ending - c...
aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
Because it's a bad movie.
Irate chad
  03/18/18
DC is, in fact, full of corn pone pussy
Mint Half-breed Candlestick Maker
  03/18/18
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Magenta Self-absorbed Chapel Hissy Fit
  03/18/18
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turquoise theater stage
  03/18/18
Honestly this movie would have done much better in the early...
Sexy wonderful house
  03/18/18
Scholarship
aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike
  03/18/18
...
Indigo feces
  03/19/18
I actually enjoyed Red Dragon more.
Medicated point
  03/18/18
it was fine for a remake. I'm partial to the original for Ma...
turquoise theater stage
  03/18/18
absolute trash, even Hopkins and Fiennes couldn't save it. M...
Gay racy kitchen
  03/19/18
Saw it before Silence of the Lambs. Excellent.
Beady-eyed garnet selfie
  03/18/18
Harris didn't even want to write Hannibal, so he put in a sl...
Slippery cruel-hearted temple international law enforcement agency
  03/18/18
if the novel sucks how can you criticize the movie for fixin...
turquoise theater stage
  03/18/18


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Date: March 18th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: turquoise theater stage

you have Ridley Scott coming off Gladiator directing a David fucking Mamet screenplay based on some of Thomas Harris' best source material, and Anthony fucking Hopkins reprising one of the most legendary and unforgettable characters ever conceived in film/literature. half of the movie takes place in Florence and Gary Oldman puts on a fucking clinic for any actor aspiring to play a villain in a B-rated horror film.

I understand people were sad that Jodie Foster and John Demme weren't involved but tough shit. the original Hannibal movie had Brian Cox as Hannibal and Dennis Farina as Foster's boss. Julianne Moore was actually a better Clarice Starling than Jodie Foster, less robotic and showing a sliver of vulnerability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633358)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Irate chad

>based on some of Thomas Harris' best source material

Have you read the book? It's fucking terrible. It's insane that Mamet ever agreed to try to adapt that turd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633452)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike

Eh, it's fun. Super bloated and abandons characterization for all characters and any pretense to realism, but enjoyable if not expecting much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633476)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: Irate chad

It's schlock. Mason Verger is sodomized by his sister with a cattle prod and Clarice and Lecter elope after eating human brains together.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633501)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike

Yes, it's schlock. That's sorta my point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633512)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: Irate chad

Your point was that his best source material is complete shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634676)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634707)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: dashing coral shrine

Yeah it was awesome, I think some critics had this idea that SotL was high art but it was always Grand Guignol and Hannibal was just a logical progression of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633374)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: turquoise theater stage

the ending was so fucking good. everything from the final set piece at Ray Liotta's weekend lake house to introducing Hannibal to his Asian protege from the books. it's honestly a masterpiece of the thriller genre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633387)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: dashing coral shrine

Have you seen the TV show? It is so fucking crazy and good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633391)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633399)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: turquoise theater stage

yes i watched every episode and used to troll for it here. I would watch it again if I could cut out all of Will Graham's nightmare scenes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633400)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:07 PM
Author: dashing coral shrine

You mean the ones with the moose? Some of them were pretty trippy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633412)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: Sexy wonderful house

180 Show. I’m a huge gore lover and I am amazed at the stuff they managed to get onto network television

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633426)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: dashing coral shrine

Some of the most disturbing violence I've ever seen was on this show. I think it was mostly French-funded and just aired on NBC in a bad time slot.

Some scenes that come to mind:

Hannibal driving a knife through a guy's brain at his dinner table

The scene where the Asian woman agent is found with her body carefully dissected and displayed in glass panels

The scene where some insane killer is stitching bodies together at the bottom of a silo, and then later when one of those bodies escapes and falls off a cliff

The scene where Hannibal places a comb in the girl's incubator and it causes a spark and she burns alive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633444)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Sexy wonderful house

I remember hearing that they were having a problem with getting some scene past Standards and Practices because bare buttocks of some corpse were too visible—so they just smeared MORE blood on until it assuaged the censors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633453)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:16 PM
Author: dashing coral shrine

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633458)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike

God bless America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633471)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: Slippery cruel-hearted temple international law enforcement agency

His azn protege? Wut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634058)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:06 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike

The book was compulsively readable but ljl at the ending - came out of nowhere though I could see it happening irl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633409)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:07 PM
Author: Irate chad

Because it's a bad movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633410)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:07 PM
Author: Mint Half-breed Candlestick Maker

DC is, in fact, full of corn pone pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633414)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Magenta Self-absorbed Chapel Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633705)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: turquoise theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633775)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:08 PM
Author: Sexy wonderful house

Honestly this movie would have done much better in the early 90s; by 2001, the popular taste for the particularly Roccoco tastes of Harris, a guy who wrote two great thrillers and then switched to fan fiction of his own material, was kaput. If this had come out in 1992 it would have killed during that early 90s interlude where the exploitation refugees of the collapsing 80s horror boom were swarming into the UMC bland cinema (your Ordinary Peoples and so on) and giving us glossy schlock like Basic Instinct and Indecent Proposal. Of course, that would have clashed with when Silence actually came out, so who knows.

It’s basically the most “post 1987 Dario Argento” movie that wasn’t an Argento movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633419)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:14 PM
Author: aromatic lilac kitty preventive strike

Scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633449)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:27 AM
Author: Indigo feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35635717)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:14 PM
Author: Medicated point

I actually enjoyed Red Dragon more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633451)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: turquoise theater stage

it was fine for a remake. I'm partial to the original for Mann's hyper-testosterone over-stylized synth-fueled take. prequels are also inherently flawed because they undercut suspense from the ending

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633472)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: Gay racy kitchen

absolute trash, even Hopkins and Fiennes couldn't save it. Manhunter, on the other hand, is by far the best Lecktor film.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35635737)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed garnet selfie

Saw it before Silence of the Lambs. Excellent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633503)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: Slippery cruel-hearted temple international law enforcement agency

Harris didn't even want to write Hannibal, so he put in a sloppy hack job

Redhead woman was mediocre as shit

They neutered the interplay and ending of the movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634074)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: turquoise theater stage

if the novel sucks how can you criticize the movie for fixing the ending?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634505)