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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM Author: confused opaque forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201) |
Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM Author: pontificating bearded resort I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM Author: submissive burgundy chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Electric brindle people who are hurt Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: thriller quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM Author: buck-toothed angry address dog poop Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM Author: confused opaque forum did her own research as far as I can tell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM Author: crusty fat ankles Ends justify the means with libs
They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM Author: lime medicated gaping Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM Author: vengeful indian lodge But Posner is a POS judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: sepia mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM Author: Amber razzle-dazzle hall nibblets While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM Author: lime medicated gaping Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM Author: Amber razzle-dazzle hall nibblets I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM Author: vengeful indian lodge There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838) |
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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM Author: vibrant whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Shimmering patrolman Both are wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM Author: umber comical spot there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM Author: Spruce Half-breed International Law Enforcement Agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM Author: umber comical spot #MeTwink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM Author: brilliant greedy toaster fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM Author: umber comical spot almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.
also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it. |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM Author: Frum Trust Fund Electric Furnace lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM Author: vengeful indian lodge Going outside the record is some bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM Author: Amber razzle-dazzle hall nibblets Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM Author: vengeful indian lodge I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM Author: Shimmering patrolman Thugs in black robes, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: umber comical spot http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf
Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017 Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM Author: flickering vivacious scourge upon the earth Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM Author: lascivious orange incel If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM Author: cerebral national oh what an exemplary. such anathema. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM Author: bateful sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM Author: Spruce Half-breed International Law Enforcement Agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM Author: Swollen chartreuse garrison Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM Author: vengeful indian lodge Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM Author: Swollen chartreuse garrison More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM Author: vengeful indian lodge Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Swollen chartreuse garrison Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."
The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM Author: Shimmering patrolman You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM Author: umber comical spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM Author: Sadistic idea he suggested home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM Author: self-absorbed rehab persian I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM Author: pontificating bearded resort PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: thriller quadroon Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM Author: marvelous shitlib Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM Author: sepia mad cow disease Thomas, J., laying down the law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM Author: Electric brindle people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM Author: Shimmering patrolman Pure pwnage by Kennedy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929) |
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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM Author: Jade juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109) |