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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM Author: bipolar wonderful dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201) |
Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Dun flatulent pocket flask I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM Author: Razzmatazz copper tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM Author: brilliant box office knife Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time
LOL |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: cracking autistic stage kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM Author: Big-titted sanctuary Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM Author: bipolar wonderful dilemma did her own research as far as I can tell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM Author: Stubborn Cerise Internal Respiration School Ends justify the means with libs
They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Insecure hospital Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM Author: Cerebral lilac hall boistinker But Posner is a POS judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: Pink Violent Multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM Author: maniacal amber lodge While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM Author: Insecure hospital Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM Author: maniacal amber lodge I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM Author: Cerebral lilac hall boistinker There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838) |
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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM Author: adventurous fortuitous meteor orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM Author: bossy lascivious coffee pot den Both are wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM Author: stimulating depressive there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM Author: plum site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM Author: stimulating depressive #MeTwink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM Author: olive talented telephone fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM Author: stimulating depressive almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.
also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it. |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM Author: Provocative deep nursing home lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Cerebral lilac hall boistinker Going outside the record is some bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM Author: maniacal amber lodge Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM Author: Cerebral lilac hall boistinker I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM Author: bossy lascivious coffee pot den Thugs in black robes, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM Author: stimulating depressive http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf
Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017 Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle clown persian Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM Author: Glittery station roast beef If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM Author: effete codepig oh what an exemplary. such anathema. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM Author: Talking temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM Author: plum site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM Author: garnet motley indian lodge Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM Author: Cerebral lilac hall boistinker Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM Author: garnet motley indian lodge More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM Author: Cerebral lilac hall boistinker Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM Author: garnet motley indian lodge Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."
The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM Author: bossy lascivious coffee pot den You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM Author: stimulating depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM Author: up-to-no-good sinister cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM Author: Smoky voyeur I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM Author: Dun flatulent pocket flask PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: cracking autistic stage kitty Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM Author: blue deranged space mother Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Pink Violent Multi-billionaire Thomas, J., laying down the law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM Author: brilliant box office knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM Author: bossy lascivious coffee pot den Pure pwnage by Kennedy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929) |
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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM Author: disturbing quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109) |