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subtext of Mulan that I didn't notice til I rewatched it today

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed ...
rambunctious parlor
  03/21/18
Nah man
insane school cafeteria
  03/21/18
explain
rambunctious parlor
  03/21/18
A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat ...
insane school cafeteria
  03/22/18
maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even thoug...
free-loading frum point party of the first part
  03/21/18
rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexi...
rambunctious parlor
  03/21/18
lmao
free-loading frum point party of the first part
  03/21/18
this seems completely correct.
judgmental gas station
  03/22/18
Also explains why stone age societies were among the first t...
razzle-dazzle sex offender
  03/22/18
women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any...
puce address
  03/22/18
women are appropriately revered in any functional empire
Seedy Plaza
  03/21/18
That movie sucked
Appetizing hospital round eye
  03/21/18
why were you rewatching mulan?
ruddy stock car
  03/22/18
why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan ...
rambunctious parlor
  03/22/18
Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?
elite space
  03/22/18
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  03/22/18
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Submissive deranged bawdyhouse
  03/22/18
if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian ge...
Histrionic painfully honest brunch
  03/22/18
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: rambunctious parlor

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed by the idea of a woman being a soldier are the Huns.

Shan Yu finds out, at the very end, that Mulan is a woman, and does not seem shocked by it. Instead, Mulan is just the soldier that defeated his army in the mountains, a worthy foe for him to chase and try to kill. He could easily have expressed shock at the fact that it was A WOMAN who killed his army, but he declines to do so.

I think the writers of Mulan were aware that the infantilization of women is a disease of settled, rich societies. While no women are seen among the Hun army that marches on a poorly disguised Chang'an, surely the Huns must be familiar with the idea of women playing important roles in war and politics. Shan Yu's rise to power may well have been assisted by an astute and brave wife, much as Genghis Khan's rise a thousand years later would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658492)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: insane school cafeteria

Nah man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658510)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: rambunctious parlor

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658568)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: insane school cafeteria

A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat by an inferior version of their opponent. So they’d act like it was nbd they lost to a woman to not further the humiliation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: free-loading frum point party of the first part

maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even though your enemies are actual savages they still aren't as sexist as you" point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658582)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: rambunctious parlor

rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexist. they need women to be full participants. there's a reason why Wyoming and New Zealand pioneered women's suffrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658588)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: free-loading frum point party of the first part

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658597)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: judgmental gas station

this seems completely correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660244)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle sex offender

Also explains why stone age societies were among the first to legalize abortion and allow women the right to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660260)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: puce address

women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any feminist would say those societies were sexist and "toxically masculine"

men were warriors and hunters and they sometimes had many wives. women prepared food, made clothing and took care of kids and shit. women were still inferior to men as "full participants"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35661004)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Seedy Plaza

women are appropriately revered in any functional empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658585)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: Appetizing hospital round eye

That movie sucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658596)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:42 AM
Author: ruddy stock car

why were you rewatching mulan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659418)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: rambunctious parlor

why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan happened to be on TV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659810)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: elite space

Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660208)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: Submissive deranged bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660293)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: Submissive deranged bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659815)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Histrionic painfully honest brunch

if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian german gender egalitarianism was shocking and disgusting.

(of course then roman SHREWS started dying their hair blonde and talking about muh barbarian women's lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660273)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Federal stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660640)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: Mauve property antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660953)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: rambunctious parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660626)