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1 in 7 white households have $1M net worth. U post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/10/03/white...
Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
Win thi$
Fuchsia house old irish cottage
  03/22/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
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Stirring gay wizard coffee pot
  09/30/18
Cops don't make that much starting
excitant pale useless brakes
  03/22/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
that's poverty wages in that city
bistre property
  03/22/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
lol...you jumped directly from the #1 most expensive US metr...
Disgusting depressive
  03/23/18
Poasting was the only reason that Peterman was able to achie...
marvelous mahogany ceo
  03/22/18
Its mostly white baby boomers rofl
Light selfie temple
  03/22/18
I guess that's ok for their children as they can give them m...
Startling Gunner Sound Barrier
  03/22/18
lmao boomers booming it all away
Concupiscible cuckold
  03/22/18
is that why they are called boomers?
Startling Gunner Sound Barrier
  03/22/18
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nighttime stage masturbator
  03/22/18
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Light selfie temple
  03/22/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
http://www.megamillions.com
Fuchsia house old irish cottage
  03/22/18
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Buck-toothed Godawful Meetinghouse
  03/22/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
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aromatic tanning salon
  09/30/18
Wealth should not include equity in a primary residence.
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
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excitant pale useless brakes
  03/22/18
(does not live in NYC/LA/SF)
Sinister Peach Indian Lodge Roast Beef
  03/22/18
You need to live somewhere, so home equity is not a lump of ...
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
if you live in a 2M home in NY then move to FL for retiremen...
Startling Gunner Sound Barrier
  03/22/18
sure it is. can’t i remortgage the equity and continuously r...
Emerald Slippery Internal Respiration
  03/22/18
What could go wrong?
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
yes, upside is generally accompanied by risk in modern finan...
Emerald Slippery Internal Respiration
  03/22/18
Because if the market tanks you could be underwater on your ...
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
If the market tanks your stocks could lose value. If runawa...
Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse
  03/23/18
i do give some credit to the idea of marking home equity, 40...
Sinister Peach Indian Lodge Roast Beef
  03/22/18
...
Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
Everything other than home equity should count.
Hilarious olive weed whacker
  03/24/18
Wealth =/= investable cash Also, unless you live in a sha...
Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse
  03/22/18
Just sell your house and live somewhere cheaper when it pull...
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
So? Spending your money means you can't use it on other thi...
Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse
  03/23/18
...
greedy corner
  03/23/18
not everyone lives in mom's basement forever
Infuriating purple kitty cat
  03/23/18
Why not?
Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse
  03/22/18
You almost certainly have familial and emotional obligations...
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
i see what you're saying, but an asset being illiquid -/->...
greedy corner
  03/23/18
I think that can be true for a lot of assets (cars, jewelry)...
Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse
  03/23/18
how is this possible, i thought an absurdly low number of bo...
Concupiscible cuckold
  03/22/18
Average wealth is >$900k, median is <$300k. Rich ou...
Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested
  03/22/18
...
Light selfie temple
  03/22/18
Median is 170 according to the article. Still sounds high to...
laughsome very tactful candlestick maker
  03/22/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  03/22/18
170 is high? JFC none of you people live in New Jersey.
High-end slate sanctuary
  09/30/18
property rich, cash poor
Narrow-minded sticky electric furnace mad-dog skullcap
  03/22/18
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Burgundy business firm
  03/22/18
it wouldn't surprise me if both were true. I could see 1/...
Startling Gunner Sound Barrier
  03/22/18
didn't click but has to be including their home values ton...
Vibrant dog poop center
  03/22/18
A bunch of them rode the housing bubble all the way: bought ...
drab fortuitous meteor
  03/23/18
white or (((white)))?
ultramarine office
  03/23/18
pretty sure it's like 6/7 for (((whites)))
Magical appetizing set water buffalo
  03/23/18
I’m probably a paper millionaire including home equity (incl...
Crawly Ratface
  03/23/18
If your wife works say *we*. You by yourself are not a paper...
Magical appetizing set water buffalo
  03/23/18
Fair. I edited before I saw your post.
Crawly Ratface
  03/23/18
This works very well where the couple is committed to stayin...
Magical appetizing set water buffalo
  03/23/18
Neither of us is from a broken home, at least.
Crawly Ratface
  03/23/18
So you probably have lots of Jew gold buried in the backyard...
ultramarine office
  03/23/18
I should go check.
Crawly Ratface
  03/23/18
damn among the xoxo cohort, like college educated whites and...
black lettuce
  03/23/18
other data: about 8% of households (calculated based on the...
black lettuce
  03/23/18
Is a million supposed to be a lot in 2018? That was a lot of...
razzmatazz volcanic crater
  03/23/18
but tbf, $1mm gets you 30 years of $65k distributions assumi...
black lettuce
  03/23/18
(guy who doesn't think 1 out of 7 xo posters are worth $1+ m...
Infuriating purple kitty cat
  03/23/18
What percentage of households with members in their 30s have...
galvanic associate
  03/23/18
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Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend
  09/30/18
A lot of Boomers are rich, news at 11.
High-end slate sanctuary
  09/30/18


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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/10/03/white-families-are-twice-as-likely-to-be-millionaires-as-a-generation-ago/?utm_term=.e42043bd2ced



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665806)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: Fuchsia house old irish cottage
Subject: Win thi$

http://www.megamillions.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665873)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666091)



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Date: September 30th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Stirring gay wizard coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#36930010)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: excitant pale useless brakes

Cops don't make that much starting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665911)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666135)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:57 PM
Author: bistre property

that's poverty wages in that city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666235)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666262)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Disgusting depressive

lol...you jumped directly from the #1 most expensive US metro to the #2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669415)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: marvelous mahogany ceo

Poasting was the only reason that Peterman was able to achieve that. What say you to that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665816)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: Light selfie temple

Its mostly white baby boomers rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665866)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: Startling Gunner Sound Barrier

I guess that's ok for their children as they can give them money and pass it on... unless you have a lot of brothers and sisters, then ur fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665899)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible cuckold

lmao boomers booming it all away



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665943)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Startling Gunner Sound Barrier

is that why they are called boomers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665992)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: nighttime stage masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665993)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: Light selfie temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666005)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666110)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: Fuchsia house old irish cottage

http://www.megamillions.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665939)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Godawful Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666108)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666123)



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Date: September 30th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: aromatic tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#36929925)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

Wealth should not include equity in a primary residence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665938)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: excitant pale useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665948)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Sinister Peach Indian Lodge Roast Beef

(does not live in NYC/LA/SF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665952)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

You need to live somewhere, so home equity is not a lump of investable cash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665986)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: Startling Gunner Sound Barrier

if you live in a 2M home in NY then move to FL for retirement, it basically is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666002)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 PM
Author: Emerald Slippery Internal Respiration

sure it is. can’t i remortgage the equity and continuously reinvest it in equities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666201)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:58 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

What could go wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666252)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Emerald Slippery Internal Respiration

yes, upside is generally accompanied by risk in modern financial markets. and therefore...you actually can’t reinvest the value represented by the equity in your home? cmon man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666298)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

Because if the market tanks you could be underwater on your home. And if everyone does what you say then that will happen much sooner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666551)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse

If the market tanks your stocks could lose value. If runaway inflation happens your cash could lose value. A lot of things could make your net worth decrease, but that doesn't mean it's *not* net worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669407)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:57 PM
Author: Sinister Peach Indian Lodge Roast Beef

i do give some credit to the idea of marking home equity, 401K, 529, etc., to 0 in net worth calcs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666239)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666488)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Hilarious olive weed whacker

Everything other than home equity should count.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35675987)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse

Wealth =/= investable cash

Also, unless you live in a shack, you can sell your house and live somewhere cheaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666535)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

Just sell your house and live somewhere cheaper when it pulls your kid out of a good school district.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666603)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse

So? Spending your money means you can't use it on other things. That doesn't mean it's not part of your worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669201)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: greedy corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669459)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Infuriating purple kitty cat

not everyone lives in mom's basement forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669416)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse

Why not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666528)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

You almost certainly have familial and emotional obligations that make primary residence equity less fungible than, say, a stock portfolio. Primary residences are not simply another asset class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666586)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: greedy corner

i see what you're saying, but an asset being illiquid -/-> you don't count it in your net worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669456)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: Glittery thirsty gaming laptop crackhouse

I think that can be true for a lot of assets (cars, jewelry). There are other qualities that make assets more or less fungible, but I don't think they should be excluded from net worth (unless you're going to totally redefine what it means).

Maybe some other classification (easily investable worth?) makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669858)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible cuckold

how is this possible, i thought an absurdly low number of boomers had even like 10K saved for retirement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665947)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: Beady-eyed onyx idea he suggested

Average wealth is >$900k, median is <$300k.

Rich outliers skew the numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665970)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: Light selfie temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35665984)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: laughsome very tactful candlestick maker

Median is 170 according to the article. Still sounds high to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666035)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666142)



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Date: September 30th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: High-end slate sanctuary

170 is high?

JFC none of you people live in New Jersey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#36929944)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: Narrow-minded sticky electric furnace mad-dog skullcap

property rich, cash poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666001)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:22 PM
Author: Burgundy business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666511)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: Startling Gunner Sound Barrier

it wouldn't surprise me if both were true.

I could see 1/7 people having 1M in assets.

I could also see 4/7 having less than 100K in assets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666012)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: Vibrant dog poop center

didn't click but has to be including their home values

tons of boomers in CA and east coast are "millionaires" that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35666544)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: drab fortuitous meteor

A bunch of them rode the housing bubble all the way: bought in Los Altos for 250k and are now sitting on a 2.5 million house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669425)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: ultramarine office

white or (((white)))?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669323)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: Magical appetizing set water buffalo

pretty sure it's like 6/7 for (((whites)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669338)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: Crawly Ratface

I’m probably a paper millionaire including home equity (including wife’s claim on assets).

Problem is a lot of it is home equity that I can’t easily access.

I still feel poor as fuck and am constantly nervous about me or wife getting Lathamed.

I’m (((white))), so make of that what you will.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669352)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Magical appetizing set water buffalo

If your wife works say *we*. You by yourself are not a paper millionaire. You and your wife are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669360)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Crawly Ratface

Fair. I edited before I saw your post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669374)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: Magical appetizing set water buffalo

This works very well where the couple is committed to staying together forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669394)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:17 AM
Author: Crawly Ratface

Neither of us is from a broken home, at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669397)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: ultramarine office

So you probably have lots of Jew gold buried in the backyard then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669361)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: Crawly Ratface

I should go check.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669388)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: black lettuce

damn among the xoxo cohort, like college educated whites and asians living in a top 15 population city and above age 40 i bet this number has to rise to like 1/4.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669385)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: black lettuce

other data: about 8% of households (calculated based on the 10mm millionaire figure assuming 125mm households) have $1mm in investable assets excluding home equity

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/22/record-number-of-millionaire-households-in-us.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669417)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: razzmatazz volcanic crater

Is a million supposed to be a lot in 2018? That was a lot of money in 1985. It's nothing in 2018. I'm worth like $1.5 million. I still have to work. That amounting money just means if I get fired I can spend 6 months looking for a job instead of immediately selling a kidney or driving Uber. $5 million is the new $1 million just like 250k is the new $100k for a good salary. $100k now is nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669420)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: black lettuce

but tbf, $1mm gets you 30 years of $65k distributions assuming 6% returns.

So you already know you can retire at 65.

And you are young so if you can double that by 55 you probably could retire then (if OK to live on fixed income).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669478)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: Infuriating purple kitty cat

(guy who doesn't think 1 out of 7 xo posters are worth $1+ million)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35669433)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: galvanic associate

What percentage of households with members in their 30s have a net worth of 1 million?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926199&forum_id=2#35671593)



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Date: September 30th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: Glassy self-centered son of senegal legend



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Date: September 30th, 2018 10:21 PM
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