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Charles can I get your view on MC02 war game?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
Geriatric Elastic Band
  04/25/18
The amusing level of apparent incompetence by high-level U.S...
curious foreskin nursing home
  04/26/18
Also everybody should seriously read that link, if you haven...
curious foreskin nursing home
  04/26/18


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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Geriatric Elastic Band

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: curious foreskin nursing home

The amusing level of apparent incompetence by high-level U.S. commanders isn't surprising. I've mentioned before that one of the war colleges held a small-scale wargame exercise where they pitted military commanders representing NATO against regular tabletop wargamers representing Russia in a military-designed consim about a battle in the Baltic states. The military commanders didn't just lose, but got utterly crushed, because they fell for a simple ruse that got them to race up into the Baltics, only to get crushed by a Russian armored column driving in from Belarus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960183&forum_id=2#35924786)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: curious foreskin nursing home

Also everybody should seriously read that link, if you haven't before:

Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper

Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General Paul K. Van Riper, adopted an asymmetric strategy, in particular, using old methods to evade Blue's sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World-War-II-style light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications.

Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.

At this point, the exercise was suspended, Blue's ships were "re-floated", and the rules of engagement were changed; this was later justified by General Peter Pace as follows: "You kill me in the first day and I sit there for the next 13 days doing nothing, or you put me back to life and you get 13 more days' worth of experiment out of me. Which is a better way to do it?"[1] After the reset, both sides were ordered to follow predetermined plans of action.

After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory. Among other rules imposed by this script, Red Force was ordered to turn on their anti-aircraft radar in order for them to be destroyed, and was not allowed to shoot down any of the aircraft bringing Blue Force troops ashore.[2] Van Riper also claimed that exercise officials denied him the opportunity to use his own tactics and ideas against Blue Force, and that they also ordered Red Force not to use certain weapons systems against Blue Force and even ordered the location of Red Force units to be revealed.[3]

This led to accusations that the war game had turned from an honest, open, free playtest of U.S. war-fighting capabilities into a rigidly controlled and scripted exercise intended to end in an overwhelming U.S. victory,[2] alleging that "$250 million was wasted".[4]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960183&forum_id=2#35924968)