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What's the xo consensus on leasing vs buying a car

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orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond
  04/27/18
lmao @ leasecucks jfc
Floppy quadroon
  04/27/18
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opaque racy stage
  05/02/18
(goy)
adulterous drab athletic conference
  04/27/18
i think leasing makes sense if you don't want a huge commitm...
Massive headpube tanning salon
  04/27/18
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orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond
  05/02/18
Lease only if you use it for business for the write off, or ...
Bearded twinkling uncleanness
  04/27/18
tcr for 99% of people is buying a honda or toyota brand new ...
Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig
  05/02/18
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dark lay jewess
  05/02/18
yeah, no. make that a car where the depreciation isn't stil...
Swashbuckling amber internal respiration famous landscape painting
  05/02/18
you pay for that in sometimes heavy use, deferred maintenanc...
Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig
  05/02/18
That's old thinking. 3 year old Hondas and Toyotas are very...
irradiated cream goyim base
  05/02/18
CR. When you buy a car, you should count on getting the odo...
stubborn trailer park
  05/02/18
LOL Toyotas are just getting broken in at 100k
cordovan violent personal credit line
  05/02/18
100k is the sweet spot for resale and not getting raped on m...
Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig
  05/02/18
I just bought a new Toyota. I generally think buying new is...
alcoholic community account dragon
  05/02/18
(guy comparing his corrola to a moderately used 4runner)
pearly roommate
  05/02/18
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navy boiling water
  05/03/18
what happened to volt
passionate ape
  05/02/18
volt lease will be over in a few months
orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond
  05/03/18
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orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond
  05/03/18
Buy used car just coming off lease for cash
alcoholic soul-stirring hell
  05/02/18
lease only if you can deduct payments through a business. ...
Snowy cerebral step-uncle's house
  05/02/18
my brother sells cars and he only leases for him and his fam...
pearly roommate
  05/02/18
I never understood the "you don't own it" argument...
Carnelian Glittery Principal's Office
  05/02/18
i meant own it at the end, as in you paid for it for x years...
pearly roommate
  05/02/18
You are basically paying the depreciation on it though. If ...
Carnelian Glittery Principal's Office
  05/02/18
my brother's point was that payments are lower and you dont ...
pearly roommate
  05/02/18
Lease a car, buy a home. Car - depreciating asset, you ar...
big splenetic knife filthpig
  05/02/18
I guess if you have a family and/or are sure you have a stea...
umber histrionic philosopher-king
  05/02/18
For 95% of the population, buying makes sense. But If you p...
Disrespectful Talented Voyeur
  05/02/18
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Carnelian Glittery Principal's Office
  05/02/18
lol how is it an interest free loan you idiot? a money facto...
Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig
  05/02/18
Depending on the manufacturer, the baseline MF is often quit...
Disrespectful Talented Voyeur
  05/02/18
yeah except 95% of the population isn't leasing mercedes or ...
Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig
  05/02/18
That’s why I said 95% should buy. The other 5% have their...
Disrespectful Talented Voyeur
  05/02/18


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Date: April 27th, 2018 2:22 AM
Author: orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35929624)



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Date: April 27th, 2018 6:06 AM
Author: Floppy quadroon

lmao @ leasecucks jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35929875)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: opaque racy stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968031)



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Date: April 27th, 2018 7:12 AM
Author: adulterous drab athletic conference

(goy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35929973)



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Date: April 27th, 2018 7:13 AM
Author: Massive headpube tanning salon

i think leasing makes sense if you don't want a huge commitment and have a short commute. Low mileage lease on a non-luxury car is pretty cheap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35929976)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967862)



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Date: April 27th, 2018 7:19 AM
Author: Bearded twinkling uncleanness

Lease only if you use it for business for the write off, or if you’re so rich you don’t give a shit about lighting your money on fire and want something flashy like an R8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35929981)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig

tcr for 99% of people is buying a honda or toyota brand new and driving it into the ground. hope this helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967873)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: dark lay jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967879)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Swashbuckling amber internal respiration famous landscape painting

yeah, no. make that a car where the depreciation isn't still financially devastating. so, more like a 3 year old car and then drive it into the ground.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967943)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig

you pay for that in sometimes heavy use, deferred maintenance and fart stench on the seats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967971)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: irradiated cream goyim base

That's old thinking. 3 year old Hondas and Toyotas are very expensive for their mileage because everyone caught on to new car depreciation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968174)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: stubborn trailer park

CR. When you buy a car, you should count on getting the odometer to at least 100K (so if you buy with 30K miles at least 70K more miles on it). Cars are super reliable these days and the tech doesn't change that fast so you won't materially improve your experience by "upgrading" every few years. The proles who roll their "Negative equity" into the next car loan are ljl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968011)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: cordovan violent personal credit line

LOL Toyotas are just getting broken in at 100k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968043)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig

100k is the sweet spot for resale and not getting raped on maintenance later on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968118)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: alcoholic community account dragon

I just bought a new Toyota. I generally think buying new is a bad idea, but sometimes you can get new cars that are priced competitively with similar used vehicles with 50,000 miles on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968028)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: pearly roommate

(guy comparing his corrola to a moderately used 4runner)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968036)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 2:12 AM
Author: navy boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35971519)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: passionate ape

what happened to volt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967948)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond

volt lease will be over in a few months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35971459)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: orchid bawdyhouse generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35977233)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: alcoholic soul-stirring hell

Buy used car just coming off lease for cash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967980)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Snowy cerebral step-uncle's house

lease only if you can deduct payments through a business.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35967983)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: pearly roommate

my brother sells cars and he only leases for him and his family. he says it's the cheapest way to HAVE a nice reliable car, but of course in the end you dont own the motherfucker.

so it really depends on your priorities in terms of straight finance vs image/lifestyle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968006)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Carnelian Glittery Principal's Office

I never understood the "you don't own it" argument. If I still get all the use of it as if I owned it, what's the difference during the lease period other than $$?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968041)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: pearly roommate

i meant own it at the end, as in you paid for it for x years and have nothing to show for it



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968055)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Carnelian Glittery Principal's Office

You are basically paying the depreciation on it though. If you bought the car outright, at the end of three years or however long, you'd have the same amount to show for it if you were to sell it at that point. And leases give you the option to buy at the end. I don't really get the "what do you have to show for it" argument, I dunno. I'm also lower IQ than most of the board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968113)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: pearly roommate

my brother's point was that payments are lower and you dont have to pay a yuge down payment, so on a short-term and month-to-month basis it's "cheaper"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968130)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: big splenetic knife filthpig

Lease a car, buy a home.

Car - depreciating asset, you are burning money either way. With a lease you can get a nicer, newer vehicle, with no warranty issues or maintenance costs that you trade up for before problems begin. LOL at a man enjoying some else's sloppy seconds

Home - appreciating asset. When you rent you are not avoiding maintenance costs or taxes but paying it on behalf of someone else. Plus enjoy uncertainty in yearly rent price increases and landlords. LOL at any man that cannot do as he pleases in his castle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968071)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: umber histrionic philosopher-king

I guess if you have a family and/or are sure you have a steady job & won’t want to move. Renting gives you more flexibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968157)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: Disrespectful Talented Voyeur

For 95% of the population, buying makes sense. But If you plan on keeping a car for 5 years or less and you drive less than 10k/year, leasing may make financial sense.

Residuals and money factor on leases also fluctuate month to month and there are entire forums dedicated to finding the best lease deals every month. And there are often some really good deals out there with very high residuals and low MFs.

Personally I’m only doing leases to buyout from now on. It’s basically an interest free 3 year loan on ~60% of the cost of the car. Cheaper than financing 100% the cost of the car at even a super low rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968101)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Carnelian Glittery Principal's Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968124)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig

lol how is it an interest free loan you idiot? a money factor is interest. multiply by 2400 to get your rate. and typically finance rates are better than money factor + interest on used

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968144)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Disrespectful Talented Voyeur

Depending on the manufacturer, the baseline MF is often quite low. For example, Mercedes has very low MF. The MF for my car was .0005 (1.2%). Most models ranged from 1-2% for a 10k mile lease. Lowest financing I could get was 1.55%. BMW has high MFs and ranged from 2.5-3.5%. I would never lease a BMW.

Second, many manufacturers have multiple security deposit programs to lower your MF to 0 equal to however many months’ lease payments to get to 0%. Yes there’s a small opportunity cost to not being able to use that $4k or whatever over 3 years but I don’t invest $4k in the market anyway when it comes out of my cash cushion.

I would only lease cars with low MFs or MSD programs to get 0-1% financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968235)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Ultramarine Exhilarant Pozpig

yeah except 95% of the population isn't leasing mercedes or has $4k to lower MSDs. not to mention your plan to buy out the lease at the end would involve financing for most people, and they would get pwned on used car financing.

for 99% of the population, a brand new honda or toyota is the ticket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968261)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Disrespectful Talented Voyeur

That’s why I said 95% should buy.

The other 5% have their own businesses and/or knows how to get lease deals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961236&forum_id=2#35968280)