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Why did incompetent Mueller indict a company that didn't exist? WLMAS???
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Date: May 14th, 2018 9:11 PM Author: buff location sex offender Is this guy stupid or grasping at straws?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/mueller-indicts-a-ham-sandwich.php |
Date: May 14th, 2018 9:12 PM Author: Soggy psychic kitchen Lmao. What the fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051281) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: buff location sex offender Not a lawyer. Can any of you explain this legal genius to me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051495) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:28 PM Author: multi-colored overrated school It’s more subtle than the headline - the lawyer said “That company didn’t exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government.”
That could mean the company exists but was formed in 2017, whereas the conspiracy allegeldley took place from 2015-16 or something. Of course, you would thin Muellers top men would have been able to figure that out. |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Shivering effete friendly grandma *smug boomer prosecutor trying, failing, to navigate delaware dept of state website* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051989) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:50 PM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36052043) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: Provocative primrose queen of the night windowlicker Should have uses a parenthetical (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054105) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:55 PM Author: Flesh Charismatic Codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36052083) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 9:40 PM Author: bearded frozen messiness shrine ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051506) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:09 PM Author: buff location sex offender WLMAS?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051720) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 7:52 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal Dat cancel. Don't see Concord Catering in that caption. But not even sure why it would be considered a self-pwn if he had indicted a subsidiary or affiliate of one of the GRU shell corporations he did charge. You aren't a lawyer so it's understandable that you might think there is something to the flailing shit written on sites like conservativetreeshack and linked here by retards like libslurper and that dumb cow GTTTR. Those stories are all flame, even the ones that inspire the biggest circlejerks like the one discussed ITT http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3968862&mc=25&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053590) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Not a criminal lawyer, but I thought that in order to indict Concord Catering, Mueller would have to show to the grand jury that there's probable cause Concord Catering committed a crime.
And if Concord Catering didn't even exist at the time of the alleged "conspiracy," then how could PC of said "conspiracy" involving Concord Catering exist?
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:03 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal Don't see Concord Catering in that caption. But not even sure why it would be considered a self-pwn if he had indicted a subsidiary or affiliate of one of the GRU shell corporations he did charge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053612) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:09 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Completely nonresponsive.
So, are you denying that Mueller indicted Concord Catering?
And you're contending a company can commit crimes when it doesn't even exist? |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:12 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal I thought he indicted an affiliate but like I said if he indicted a subsequently created shell that wouldn't be noteworthy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053632) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:14 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Ding ding ding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053636) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:14 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Folks, you heard it here first.
According to Mueller's boot-licking fans, a company can commit a crime when that company does not even exist. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:16 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&mc=25&forum_id=2#36053618 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053651) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:11 AM Author: Walnut infuriating orchestra pit gaping Let me get this straight. The prospect that Mueller, after months and months of a resource-rich and fully staffed investigation, may have indicted a company that did not exist during the operative period in the indictment, is not noteworthy to you, and you are so unconcerned about that prospect that across multiple poasts you cling to the nonsensical and untenable position that because this company is not in the case caption for the hearing transcript, it may not have been indicted. And you cling to that position despite the fact that a cursory google search shows it was indicted, and in that very hearing, both sides readily acknowledge it was indicted - to the point where the special counsel indicates they will attempt to serve the company with a summons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053821) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:24 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053867) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:25 AM Author: self-centered pervert home wlmas done here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053872) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:25 AM Author: insane philosopher-king wlmas plz respond ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053873) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:28 AM Author: self-centered pervert home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053883) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:47 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal Date: May 15th, 2018 9:45 AM Author: ''''''"''''''''
The caption I saw didn’t say et al so I assumed this affiliated shell Corp wasn’t indicted. But even in the posts where I said that I noted that in the alternative it wouldn’t matter if Mueller had indicted a closely held affiliate of the other GRU shell entities that he did indict. They all have the same FSB whore principal. Lmfao at what Trumpcucks will cling to these days
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053942) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:29 AM Author: vivacious amethyst public bath That man has a family! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053888) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:45 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal The caption I saw didn’t say et al so I assumed this affiliated shell Corp wasn’t indicted. But even in the posts where I said that I noted that in the alternative it wouldn’t matter if Mueller had indicted a closely held affiliate of the other GRU shell entities that he did indict. They all have the same FSB whore principal. Lmfao at what Trumpcucks will cling to these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053942) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:47 AM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital the poster you're replying to isnt remotely smart enough to address any of this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053947) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:47 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal (Literal McGeorge grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053954) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: Garnet State Gaming Laptop WLMAS done here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055094) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:10 AM Author: multi-colored overrated school https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
Is this a fake indictment? I don’t see the notarized signature of the Supreme Court Marshall, so not sure. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:39 AM Author: vigorous internet-worthy heaven Apparently they mostly cater ham sandwiches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053921) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: razzle submissive address crotch The poaster above just fucking explained it to you. If the subsidiary or affiliate didn't exist when the alleged criminal act occurred, how is there PC that it committed a criminal act? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055402) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: frisky crackhouse athletic conference You're complaining about a naming mistake, in a web of private entities with similar names. "The indictment called him James R. Smith, but it's actually spelled Smyth -- innocent of all charges despite blood and gunshot residue on his hands!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055416) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: razzle submissive address crotch No, I'm complaining about your inability to follow simple statements.
Edit: Maybe not you, but if you're pumo/quotemo, you gotta expect that kind of confusion. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:23 PM Author: frisky crackhouse athletic conference wasn't me, but the issue this whole thread is about will be fixed with a 2-sentence amended filing that's completely non-controversial, and will likely be handled by a 25yo clerk without the judge looking at it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055519) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital I think the bigger issue is that Mueller is a joke and he indicted Russian organizations for posting on Facebook because he couldn't find anything about Trump. The incompetent filing is just further evidence of his team scuffling like retards with imaginary foes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055543) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:13 PM Author: sadistic mind-boggling bawdyhouse giraffe Meh. POS prosecutors pull bs like this all the time to bully defendants into talking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051747) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:14 PM Author: buff location sex offender Bobby M KNOWS the whole world is following this like a hawk and it would be noticed. He must be grossly incompetent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051757) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:22 PM Author: bateful center Lmaooooo wlmas please respond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051808) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:37 PM Author: Soggy psychic kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051939) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:09 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt https://www.kachkin.com/news/concord-18072013 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053625) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:44 PM Author: High-end feces he's a govt worker and therefore incompetent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36051999) |
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Date: May 14th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36052106) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:06 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt According to the XO WSJ the company at issue was founded in 1996.
His lawyer says 1996 as well.
https://www.kachkin.com/news/concord-18072013
That was quick lmao
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:21 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Reed Smith PATRIOT lawyer stated in court regarding Concord Catering: “That company didn’t exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government.”
I'm inclined to believe him. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:26 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Yes he seems unbiased. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053681) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Mueller boot-licker contends that Reed Smith PATRIOT lawyer just straight-up lied to the judge about something that can easily be proven true/false. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053742) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:27 AM Author: multi-colored overrated school Ok, I guess that means that there was a division of the company called “Concord Catering” but they didn’t make it its own LLC until later? So it would be like indicting Procter and Gamble and also “Tide”. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053687) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:30 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Oh so Concord Catering as indicted by Mueller is an LLC?
Check your facts. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:36 AM Author: multi-colored overrated school The indictment refers to concord catering as an “entity.” Do you think you can indict divisions of a company? Why would you need to do that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053710) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:37 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Its Russian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053715) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:37 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053718) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: supple area mediation So if a company was founded in 1996 it must have existed in 2016?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055166) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:20 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Xo proles breathlessly regurgitating a defense attorneys snark as a substantive rebuke of Mueller is 180 self pwnage.
Love how quiet it got all of a sudden :-) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:24 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Let's see if Mueller's hacks produce any evidence that Concord Catering existed as a legal entity during the period of time their alleged "conspiracy" took place.
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:27 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Like the lawyer who set it up saying he set it up in 1996? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053682) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:48 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Like I said, let's see if Mueller's toadies provide any evidence Concord Catering existed as a legal entity during the time period of the alleged "conspiracy."
But if you want to maintain that Concord Management's counsel lied to the judge in open court, go right ahead. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:50 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Are you a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053756) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:53 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker I am.
But even a lay person would understand that no reputable attorney would lie to the court (and especially about a fact that can easily be proven true/false). |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Tier of law school? You're falling for some very low level RW clickbait here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054022) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:07 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker I'm not the one claiming that Concord Management's attorney lied to the court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054102) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:09 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt If you were intelligent or well trained you would know he could be wrong or could be relying on a variety of other tools - restructurings, renaming, who knows.
In any event this really is irrelevant. But have fun in he sandbox. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: supple area mediation I don't think the company is accused of doing anything wrong in 1996. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055189) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:32 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal Lmao you realize these are closely held entities that have the same FSB whore oligarch principal right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053697) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:33 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt That's the other, even more obvious point.but these folks aren't lawyers. Lead them along one step at a time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053699) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:38 AM Author: buff location sex offender I am indeed not a lawyer which is why I poast threads like this for you fucks to explain it to me. I’m still not clear as to who is right itt. If it did exist why would their lawyer state it didn’t in court when it should be a black or white fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053719) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:40 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Who knows. Its irrelevant though. This just doesn't matter at all. That's why not even trump tags like fox news have picked up on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053723) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:43 AM Author: buff location sex offender So when will Trump he indicted? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053733) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:49 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053755) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: buff location sex offender We don't have any clear idea of whether Mueller has found enough evidence to answer the probe's primary question, which is whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to fix the 2016 election. Or even the probe's secondary question, which is whether President Trump obstructed justice in the collusion investigation. After nearly 18+ months? What a joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36056196) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:52 AM Author: vivacious amethyst public bath (self-proclaimed lawyer) jfc you’re a retard and a bullshitter |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:55 AM Author: disturbing main people sneaky criminal He’s right dummy this is retard bait (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053783) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:41 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Think Reed Smith will file a motion to dismiss for failure to accurately describe corporate structure today? That would be truly damning for Mueller! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053726) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 8:55 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Nah bro, but they are going to file a motion to dismiss the single count of "conspiracy" against Concord Management. See https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4461391-Miscellaneous-Relief.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36053779) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 9:59 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Mueller PWNED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054026) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:00 AM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital LOOOOL at your failed snark, dipshit. No one thinks the Mueller investigation is going well. Not even Mr. dumbass Mueller himself. Keep sniffing the glue at volokh conspiracy though, "obeezy". Lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054034) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:07 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt We have no idea how the investigation is going. Zero. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054095) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054113) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: sadistic mind-boggling bawdyhouse giraffe This is correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054970) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:04 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker So, let's recap.
Reed Smith PATRIOT attorney calls out Mueller in open court stating that Concord Catering "didn’t exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government.”
Mueller boot-lickers concocted the following theories: 1) Concord Catering wasn't actually indicted because that name is not present on the hearing transcript. This absurd theory is easily debunked by a simple Google search and a peek at the indictment.
2) Concord Management's lawyer was lying to the court when he made this statement. This is laughable.
3) Well, regardless, it doesn't really matter. This seems to be what they've settled on. As a wise man said: "SAD!" |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt The other theory was that, according to Concords lawyer and the WSJ, the entity at issue was founded in 1996.
Reed Smith - a prestigious name brand firm of ever there was one - doesnt get the final say on facts. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:10 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Nah dude, that's theory #2 above - you're saying that Dubelier was lying to the court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054128) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:15 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Or just wrong or dissembling.
Google "Concord catering" and limit the time period to 1995 to 2015.
Sorry man you're just wrong. Take the L and try to bounce back tomorrow. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker I understand your position that Dubelier was misleading the court. I'm doubtful, but hey, perhaps Mueller's crack team of prosecutors will be able to figure out whether they indicted a real entity or not. We shall see! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054223) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park He didn't necessarily mislead the court. Closely held business entities are not like big companies with a publicly named board, officers, and records that precisely identify the shareholders of the entity and wholly owned subsidiaries etc. We're talking about shell entities that are incorporated and organized in a state without having to identify who owns or operates it. The defense lawyer here could be talking about a particular entity with the Concord name.
A couple of years ago I represented a plaintiff investor in a startup. The startup operated through a dizzying array of entities the structure of which virtually no one on the planet could name and understand with any precision. We named as many of the entities as we could find (and associated d/b/a's) and of course defense counsel countered in its MtD that these entities were either not in operation or not related to the transaction at issue. They bought themselves some time but weren't successful in the MtD. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Did you try that google exercise? Probably not since you're still being a catty little faggot :-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054824) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 3:22 PM Author: supple area mediation So it didn't exist in 2016? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36056265) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:20 AM Author: frisky crackhouse athletic conference yet they needed to throw in a "but" to mention that, just in case they're wrong, they would represent this entity... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054180) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park This shit happens all the time with closely held entities where the principal(s) use d/b/a's or abuse the corporate form or operate their sole-proprietorship with the name prior to actual incorporating/organizing. I know in the civil context (where "notice pleading" is generally the standard) that the games that the defense attorneys are trying to play here mean jack shit. I admittedly know less about criminal procedure but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the corporate name game means jack when the principals were previously operating under the same name or abusing the corporate form. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054397) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker Ok, so you're going with theory #3. Frankly, that's the only one that may possibly have some merit.
I don't think anyone is saying "OMG this going to bring Mueller down !!!11!!1" On the other hand, I find it entertaining and amusing that Mueller and his crack team of badass prosecutors haven't been able to figure out whether they indicted a real entity or not. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park "On the other hand, I find it entertaining and amusing that Mueller and his crack team of badass prosecutors haven't been able to figure out whether they indicted a real entity or not."
You don't understand how closely held entities are formed and operate. It's more "art" than precision. The Reed Smith attorney could be correct and still be making a pointless argument. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker I've litigated against plenty of closely held entities. And I know how annoying it can be to figure out the org structure of some of these companies. But at the end of the day, we've figured out who is who.
I practice exclusively on the civil side, but it just seems to me that before a company is indicted for a federal crime, the prosecutor should figure out whether that company existed.
If that's too much to ask, then that's a big problem with our criminal justice system. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Bloomberg lists it as an entity.
The Russian lawyer who set it up says it was done before these events took place.
There are references to it all over the internet from before the events took place.
You seem to be really struggling..... |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: vivacious amethyst public bath Can you shut the fuck up and let adults talk without your childish low IQ snark fucking up decent threads. Thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054874) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Sorry if facts make you mad. I cant help you with that issue though. Good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054910) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: vivacious amethyst public bath Sorry if you can’t behave like an adult. Maybe time will help you, maybe not. But until then, stay the fuck out of threads where adults are talking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054922) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt I'm going to keep posting. Sorry man. You'll be ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054935) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: vivacious amethyst public bath Son, we already know you’re a shameless troll and liar. Not a single person here, left or right, has any respect for you. Yet you keep coming back for more punishment. So yeah we know you are going to keep posting for whatever masochistic reason. But stay out of adult threads, you’re not going to make friends by pulling pigtails you know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054991) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Okay but how does this relate to the facts I posted? Odd case! Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055049) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: supple area mediation It's possible for a company to have existed in one year but not another. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055178) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park Even assuming the entity wasn't incorporated/formed, it's quite possible that the principal(s) did do business under that name before formation. That's not all that uncommon. Other possibilities include a merger or similar transaction (implied or express) whereby the old entity is dissolved and the entity that's named in the indictment is the successor (de-facto or de jure). You have an infinite number of possibilities. There's no reason to believe there's a problem with the criminal justice system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055150) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital Yep no big deal, just indict companies that don't exist at the time of the alleged crime. Hehe. Happens all the time. No biggie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055165) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: buck-toothed rehab weed whacker One | Weird | Trick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055261) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park It does happen all the time. You can have unincorporated entities, organizations, gangs, and street corners indicted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055290) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:55 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital Yes good point. Indicting a legal entity that never existed during the alleged crime is just like indicting a street gang! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055383) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Just to reiterate, it was founded in 1996. Xoxohth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055391) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital That means it will exist forever! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055397) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt Did they file that motion to dismiss for failure to accurately describe corporate structure yet? Mueller is shaking in his Allen Edmonds waiting for that one I bet.
He *knows* he threw away the whole investigation with this blunder!!!! |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital Are you done moving goal posts around? :-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055415) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt How do you think this ends? Be honest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055427) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital Trump keeps being President. Sideshow Bob ends up a national disgrace. And you'll stay MAF, of course. :-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055436) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt I mean how do you see this enormous controversy and devastating blunder in court playing out?
Is this purported error going to lead to disbarment you think?!?!? |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:23 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital I'm not sure. Is this the one that supposedly posted a picture on FB of Hillary in a clown suit? Sounds like they deserve the death penalty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055522) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park No, but it would be like indicting an unincorporated business entity, the first item in my list. You needn't wait for criminal entities to officially incorporate in the state they do business in, lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055424) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: razzle submissive address crotch But if you indict the incorporated entity, and allege that the incorporated entity committed the criminal acts, that's a mistake. It's not some sort of irreparable mistake (unless there's some crim pro jiujitsu I don't know about), but still a mistake, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055438) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park "But if you indict the incorporated entity, and allege that the incorporated entity committed the criminal acts, that's a mistake."
No, not necessarily. If these guys were doing business under that name (signing contracts, letters etc.) and then later officially organized/incorporated with that exact name, then I don't see an issue with naming the entity as a defendant. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital "If blah blah blah"... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055529) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park Take a look at the pdf above. I should have done that before. It's not named as an incorporated (inc.) or organized (LLC) entity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055542) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital Defendant is unincorporated? Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055440) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Obsidian histrionic trailer park I actually just took a look at the indictment posted above. Concord Catering is named simply as "CONCORD CATERING". Unlike the other entity in the indictment, it does not contain LLC, INC., PC etc. That is precisely what I've been saying. It's named as an umbrella entity or unincorporated entity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055533) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Provocative primrose queen of the night windowlicker At least in civil litigation, that would mean "Concord Catering" is not the real party in interest and would necessitate naming the underlying individuals or entities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055698) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: supple area mediation They also had issues with service of process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055056) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: razzle submissive address crotch "The Reed Smith attorney could be correct and still be making a pointless argument."
This is in all likelihood the case, except he's not really making an "argument," just saying he doesn't represent that particular entity (but probably would if the government steps up with evidence that it existed at the time of the alleged criminal acts). |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: stirring forum Incredible how Trumpmos are rooting for the Russians and against Mueller (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36054921) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: Soggy psychic kitchen Trump said pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055048) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: razzle-dazzle hospital Red-blooded Americans tend to root agains treasonous scum like Bob Mueller. Hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3976966&forum_id=2#36055093) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Canary talented stag film people who are hurt *one weird trick* to stop any indictment.
Prosecutors hate him! |