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So biglaw guarantees a 30 year old $350,000 year and it's bad?
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:45 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067472) |
Date: May 17th, 2018 7:46 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed Flexible work. Lots of firms let you do whatever from home as long as it gets done. Can roll in at a 11, out at 4 on slow days. Senior assocs can delegate a ton of the grunt work. Insanely high salary. Good job flexibility - there's firms lining up to hire you even if you get canned. Great benefits. Transactional is chill and often not too contentious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067474) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:47 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed Compare this to in-house - sitting in an open plan office, making half as much, some MD riding you every second of your 9-7 day, still have a blackberry, still working on deals. JFC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067475) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:33 AM Author: Buff New Version There is shitty in-house and there is cushy in-house. Not sure if the same can be said for Biglaw. If you're there 9-7 it's prbly because you spent 3 hours shooting the shit with others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067932) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:40 AM Author: topaz feces In either case if you're not (1) GC or (2) Business generating or (3) absolutely MISSION FUCKING CRITICAL AGC or DGC in a HUGE organization your just sitti around waiting to be cannon fodder in the next round of recession layoffs oh and you didn't get that much stock cuz youre a low level lawyer and the stock is worthless because it's a recession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067976) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: Buff New Version Don't understand what your gripe is. Everyone going in-house understands the risk. Biglaw presents similar ones as well. What you're likely referring to (I imagine) are contract negotiator level in-house positions. Your statement holds true for biglaw I guess. No one goes in-house to make money, or, at least, I've yet to meet anyone that has. Ppl generally go for a better work life balance and reasonable pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068015) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:47 AM Author: topaz feces My point is that the risk skews heavily towards the downside for all but the positions I identified, which includes the vast majority of AGCs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068026) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: very tactful amber ratface You are far more likely to be canned on a whim in biglaw. In house job security is far superior to big law job security. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069167) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: topaz feces That might be true for the bottom 25% of performers but definitely not the middle 50%. I think you underestimate how decimated in house legal staffs become in sharp downturns. It's nastier on a percentage basis than biglaw. 40 down to 4. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:57 AM Author: Misunderstood house cr you can work in the morning, in the evening, at kids' baseball games, even fall asleep in bed with your emails open (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067501) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed you don't work all the time in biglaw. only NYC/HKG corp is bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067516) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:02 AM Author: Crawly red plaza old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067525) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:36 PM Author: light arousing cuck lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105791) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Motley sable casino dingle berry (MSFT CEO) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105812) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:45 AM Author: Cerise comical electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111498) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:57 AM Author: bright coldplay fan circlehead Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067502) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:09 AM Author: Overrated Place Of Business Church ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067537) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:58 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building Man I was yelling at some Thai woman making ridiculous arguments at like midnight yesterday, sometimes it's not that chill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067509) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed yell at her for 5 minutes.
go back to the banks.
"Company said no, would you like us to keep pushing back?"
Rinse and repeat. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building Yeah that's what I did but a stressful five min (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067514) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed oh no a stressful five mins
u have literally $1m in a bank account |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building Brokerage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067519) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:16 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067822) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: topaz feces It shouldn't be. It's someone else's money and risk. Let her angst fall upon your lap like acorns from an oak tree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067523) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:05 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building oh i agree, my whole approach is let's be chill about this. but when people are just being aggro retards for no reason, its tough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067530) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:14 AM Author: topaz feces Yesterday I cut off an angry shrew to ask her why she lies and yells and give her heart for a soulless company that cares nothing about her and wha would your parents and god and children think, it's okay, I will forgive you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067805) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: topaz feces Sssssssh don't yell it's going to be ok It's goin to be ok It's going to be ok. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:14 AM Author: domesticated stock car The best part of megacorp inhouse is negotiating with suppliers because your job is basically to be as unfair and dickish to them as possible. I think my main goal for the rest of my career is to spend as much of my time as possible working for businesses in negotiations where they have all the leverage in every negotiation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068214) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068906) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Olive hairless ticket booth son of senegal crrrrrrr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068964) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: odious thirsty stage ladyboy Remember this voicemail?
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building of course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069063) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: domesticated stock car They should make this voicemail a huge portion of your bar exam score. They should add a section where you have to recite it from memory and fail the whole test if you miss more than 5 words. Licensed attorneys should be subject to spot checks where they are asked by another member of the bar to recite it on demand and if they fail to recite it properly they can be disbarred. Also, I should have found this dude and begged him to hire me at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069224) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069499) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Buff New Version What an annoying fuck. BTW, what was the issue? lol at getting worked up over shit like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069237) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: saffron dog poop Listened to this again for the first time since law school. It doesnt sound that bad anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069287) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:50 PM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36073254) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:59 AM Author: Misunderstood house never heard it before today. It's bad, but it's not the worst thing I've ever heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110810) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:34 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111048) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:16 AM Author: Flatulent main people headpube lol @ negotiating with thai (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067831) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:55 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068071) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:32 AM Author: dull wonderful people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067622) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:16 AM Author: beta learning disabled theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067829) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:47 AM Author: Wine up-to-no-good dopamine box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067476) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:56 AM Author: Dark vibrant lodge hissy fit LJL. The Little Mermaid could never get made today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067500) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:57 AM Author: startled legend stage id fuck the shit out of ariel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067507) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: Cobalt exciting death wish "You'll never miss it." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067647) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:52 AM Author: Henna double fault azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067489) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: costumed hominid theatre 2200 in billables? that's like a 44-hour workweek with two full weeks of vacation a year. biglawyers aren't paid enough for that kind of workload. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067640) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:46 AM Author: Cobalt exciting death wish lmao, here are three committees we'd like you to run, also please be a major participant in the summer program and all of your clients are cost-conscious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067650) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: odious thirsty stage ladyboy 2200 is 44 billable hours per week, which really means 50 hours in the office ever week. That's not bad by NYC standards, but it means 9:30-7:30 five days a week and probably 5-10 weekends a year ruined with work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069049) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed most biglawyers bill less than 2000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069052) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke *most biglawyers without a long-term career trajectory at the firm* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069065) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed yeah but you can still do 10 years and save literally no flame one million dollars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069075) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke I'd wager there isn't a single lawyer in the V25 who's joined within the last 10 years who would be allowed to stay for 10 years if they bill <2k per year outside of the following edge cases: 1) they have dirt on / improper under the eyes of God relations with someone on the global committee; 2) they're a walking discrimination / adverse firing suit if they're let go; 3) they're in a niche area of practice where the hours culture has escaped the general rising tide (e.g., SALT controversy); 4) they're only there because of business facilitation (dad is the GC of Exxon); 5) they have a special niche skill (government contracting wizard with portability over into false claims act analysis for obscure contracting methodologies). This probably describes 5% of the associate workforce. For the other 95%, hours drive the equation to a degree that is jaw-dropping to idealistic outsiders. Also, the Kevron Drive has reached stage four of engineering test phase and we're preparing for a demonstration sometime in June, please let me know if you'd like to attend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069149) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed yeah you cant do 10 years at a firm with sub 2k but you can lateral 2-3 times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069174) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke sometimes but it depends on things that are outside of your control like what the market trend is for your practice area at the time and how desperate the (usually lower vault) firm is to staff up with laterals. I've seen the scenario you describe where a lawyer has bobbed and weaved from firm to firm successfully but I've also seen people who get fucked because their resume screams "I can't stay in a single place for more then 1-2 years"; hiring partners / committees are wise to this, especially these days--it's fairly easy to spot someone who is just milking a career path for a few more years of benefits / savings before moving to borneo to open a tattoo body art stand (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069187) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: very tactful amber ratface You don’t know what you’re taking about. At my V5 the AVERAGE billables, excluding pro bono are 1650 to 1750. With pro bono they are about 1900. It’s only the V15 (maybe V10) - V100 where you really have to grind out 2000+ consistently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069192) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Buff New Version (Poaster soon to receive an email from random partner to meet in conference room East-West at end of day) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069198) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke Brother, I think I do know what I'm talking about and we're really not saying anything differently. I don't doubt that some V10s have that as an average hours basis. It doesn't affect the point I'm making, particularly when you think about the volume shape of the cohort of lawyers (pyramidal base); there are lots of young lawyers who come in and try to survive billing <2k hours. I'm telling you they don't generally last these days for a combination of reasons including both firm selection and self selection (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069202) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: very tactful amber ratface Ok, maybe it’s different at the top handful of firms. I did consider going to a lower V100 firm recently (for a move that would have involved a promotion) and I was surprised by how hours-focused they were compared to my current firm. My firm just charges pornographically-obscene rates so we don’t really have to bill that many hours to turn a good profit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069348) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:52 AM Author: topaz feces But you do have to bill these hours to support the PPP of a v5, which even with high rates relies on leverage and hours. Hours are the unit of production of the law firm. Each associate, special counsel and non-equity partner costs salary + bonus + $300k. Add up the back office at $350k/Head. Pull your top line revenue from AmLaw. Pull your PPP. Take junior associate hours at 1800/per based on a bucket of juniors at leverage and $600/hour, counsel and non-equity at 1800/per and $1000/hour and solve for hours of the buckett of senior associates at leverage and $950/hour. The math will show seniors getting CRUSHED. The average number rolled out by firms will include ALL of the partial year firings, hiring and maternity and paternity leave. You MUST bill 2400/year to last ten years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110782) |
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Date: May 25th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36125473) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:47 AM Author: Umber Yapping Hall Famous Landscape Painting Average billable numbers are flame vastly deflated by part year laterals and women on maternity leave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111110) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 4:55 PM Author: Azure swollen faggotry public bath 10 years is crazy
you could probably milk it to year 4-5 though depending on the firm and office, but then you're kind of fucked |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:14 PM Author: disgusting stimulating gas station LMAO @ two full weeks of vacation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36106393) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:50 AM Author: Brindle Point Fat Ankles my friend is 30 in biglaw V50 and only makes $250k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067678) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: domesticated stock car So your friend did something before law school and graduated at 27? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069246) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Brindle Point Fat Ankles pretty much but he saved for law school and had only $50k of debt and is now debt free.
My only point is that it's wrong to assume top tier base and bonus and graduating at 25 with $0 debt. the opportunity cost of making the money requires a few years to break even. by the break-even point, most biglawyers are looking to leave. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: soul-stirring orchestra pit psychic guarantees? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067814) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 5:40 PM Author: Titillating trust fund toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36071812) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:16 AM Author: Rebellious house-broken native LOL. The funny thing is, i remember thinking exactly that in law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067826) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:19 AM Author: topaz feces And then you weren't good at it and didn't take full agency of your own life and missed some cuts and gave up and now you can't afford your shitty townhome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067849) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:31 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067916) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: odious thirsty stage ladyboy BURN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069131) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Rebellious house-broken native Now i have a cool job where people are actually nice to me and i dont dread coming in to work every day and im getting an awesome 180 house that i actually own (town homes are bullshit, u dont own them). Our new place is really growing on me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069168) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 5:40 PM Author: Titillating trust fund toilet seat Absolutely devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36071817) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:17 AM Author: Flatulent main people headpube cr. plus you just do 4-5 years in the right practice group and then transition to 9-5 300k in house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067833) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:26 AM Author: Vivacious shaky base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067888) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:29 AM Author: topaz feces Now remove your avarice (NYC) and gluttony (law school debt) from the fact pattern and recalculate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067902) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:36 AM Author: Vivacious shaky base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067951) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:37 AM Author: topaz feces We're all gonna die and be forgotten (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067956) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:37 AM Author: flickering adventurous stead really tough guy thank god (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067960) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 5:38 PM Author: saffron dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36071799) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:37 AM Author: clear corner This is an interesting new twist on an old flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067961) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke Hey, interesting idea you have here. I think we need to talk through things in more detail though. Can you please set up a call with the bort for Saturday at 8 a.m. and then I'll want a draft memorializing the strategy--bullets are fine, but make sure they're tight--by Sunday AM since the board presentation is Monday. Also, I need you to fly out to Quebec sometime next week to support something--I'll let you know the details sometime this week or else over the weekend, but if you haven't heard from me by Monday definitely reach back out
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: very tactful amber ratface You are highly compensated because you have no long term future/career progression at the firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069219) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed who cares. you can save $750k - $1m and then do literally whatever you want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069247) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke "All I wanted to do was to practice law at Skadden for forty years. If only I had know it required an average realized billable hours aggregate of 2,150 per year during my associate years I would have adjusted things. Now here I am, 37, forced to leave the Glory Seat of the Law and sell trinkets to tourists in Ukraine with my family in tow." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069263) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069418) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: Appetizing Private Investor Yarmulke Yes, 100%. *in the middledistance, the sound of cannonade interpunctuated with the burping diesel noises of a rolling wave of Soviet battletanks* "Mishka, they return! Roll up the storefront! Ready the armor!" 'Dad, I've told you fifty times my name is Axton Kingston and I'm not changing it no matter how long we stay in this shitty place. When are we going home?' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069539) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 1:15 AM Author: Provocative sapphire locus nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102521) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Titillating trust fund toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105755) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: topaz feces BIGTRINKET (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069515) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:24 PM Author: racy weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36073532) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36072058) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36089617) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:03 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36095252) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:04 AM Author: Vigorous turquoise national security agency not a biglaw bro but i get the impression they entice you with the big salary but they work the shit out of you and then ditch you after about 5 years, leaving you the broken shell of a person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36095257) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:07 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed why would you be a "broken shell" of a person jfc
its just emails
you aren't manning a trench at Verdun |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 12:48 PM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36096793) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:11 PM Author: Azure swollen faggotry public bath 5 years if you’re lucky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36106376) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 3:49 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102750) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:17 AM Author: Poppy theater friendly grandma you have no idea what it's like. i was at v5 lit and ended it with nothing lined up. human beings were not made for office work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102781) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:19 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed And what are you doing now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102784) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:40 AM Author: haunting razzmatazz church building You shouldn't join v5, that's a huge mistake but you should have been able to lateral (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102853) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: topaz feces V5 is a sad grotesquerie of flattened goombas and koopa troopas acting like they own the castle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36104396) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:40 AM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110721) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:01 AM Author: Misunderstood house hilarious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110823) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 7:32 AM Author: Burgundy deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36417432) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Orchid slippery generalized bond organic girlfriend Its solid money but truly is brutal in many ways. It just wears you down over the years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105799) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:14 AM Author: Insane Mexican Half-breed its literally just typing things and reading emails JFC grow a backbone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110889) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:43 PM Author: talented foreskin business firm LOL at "Guarantee" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105834) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:47 AM Author: pearly rigor $350k in MFH will barely pay for your groceries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111113) |
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Date: May 25th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: Wild spruce cruise ship sweet tailpipe “Flexible work. Lots of firms let you do whatever from home as long as it gets done.” You WILL be working from home (or the airport, train, poolside at your vacation resort, your mother’s dining room table prior to Thanksgiving dinner) in addition to all time spent in the office, since there is no distinction between work and leisure time.
“Can roll in at a 11, out at 4 on slow days”: Yes, after three straight weeks of crushing days, you’ll have a day or two with nothing to do, so you can head in or out early by a few hours, with the dreaded awareness that this period of relative calm can be blown up at any moment.
“Senior assocs can delegate a ton of the grunt work.” Yes, at a certain point you can delegate legal research and answering formulaic interrogatories, while still retaining ultimate responsibility for the delegated work being right (you’ll be as fucked as the junior if some case-busting precedent finds its way into your brief), and then you have some delightful senior associates responsibilities added to your plate, like dealing directly with intransigent clients (direct client contact!) and a plethora of business development “grunt work” (partner tasks you with getting together extensive RFP for case hitting the docket in the morning, for presentation to potential client that evening)
“Good job flexibility -there's firms lining up to hire you even if you get canned.” No. Highly dependent on market and, at some point where it is clear you are non-partner material in the big law world (i.e. vast majority of people) the most common path if staying in the firm world is going to a midlaw or boutique firm that presents much of the samw bullshit with pay comparable to inhouse roles you potentially could have earlier transitioned to earlier.
“Great benefits.” Yes, like UNLIMITED vacation! (Of course, Billable hours expectations still apply).
“ Transactional is chill and often not too contentious.” Hahahhahahhahahhahhahah |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: plum boiling water associate sounds like you're in lit, so that's your problem right there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36419165) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: topaz feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36419149) |