Any dumbasses on here want to defend Obama's spying on Trump?
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Date: May 20th, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Mauve old irish cottage
If we lived in a hypothetical glorious world where I had power, I’d use your question as part of assessing whether someone was a liberal ringleader, and should therefore be executed, or merely a brainwashed zombie footsoldier.
If a liberal was unable to articulate a coherent response to your question, this would be good. Some re-education, and that footsoldier would see the light of day soon enough.
But if they responded in this fashion?:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/18/if-the-fbi-used-an-informant-it-wasnt-to-go-after-trump-it-was-to-protect-him/
A bullet to the head on the spot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982407&forum_id=2#36093206)
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:09 AM Author: massive shivering parlour
Comey re memo: "salacious and unverified"
Your first sentence is fake news
It's not up to someone to disprove shit. The FBI has to prove the dossier was true.
I can say you're a child molester in writing. Who is to say that statement is false? You're now going to let the government do whatever they want to you because you can't prove it's false?
I'd say you're usually better than this but you aren't
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982407&forum_id=2#36095944) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 11:51 AM Author: razzle disgusting home
Board libs should take notice, because LathamTouchedMe is the best you got, and he looks like a complete dullard here. As everyone knows, the dossier was compiled in part through illegal use of the NSA databases, which the FBI partook in, along with Bruce Ohr (DOJ) and his traitorous wife (Fusion GPS). To say the FBI found him "credible," without including the part that they knew this was all politically motivated opposition research (paid for by the DNC), and that the FBI was engaged in a literal counter-intelligence operation, is incredibly disingenuous. And it's exactly why libs are going to get their asses fucked over all of this: you're being dishonest.
It's dishonest to say that there is "evidence of collusion" because of meetings, when we now know that the majority of these meetings were setup by the FBI via informants to create the appearance of impropriety. That's what a counter-intelligence operation does.
The truth will set you free, LathamTouchedMe. And the truth is, when you pull back the curtain on any particular piece of "evidence" of collusion, it always leads back to the same group of shady FBI/DOJ characters.
These shady characters have been leaking like faucets for two years with the hope that the appearance of impropriety was enough to politically kill off their opponents. These sort of tactics likely worked very well for them in the past. But there are two major roadblocks that they (and everyone else including you) are finally having to come to grips with: 1) Trump won; and 2) the "collusion" conspiracy never happened.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982407&forum_id=2#36096278)
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Date: May 21st, 2018 12:41 PM Author: chestnut menage boltzmann
"To say the FBI found him "credible," without including the part that they knew this was all politically motivated opposition research (paid for by the DNC), and that the FBI was engaged in a literal counter-intelligence operation, is incredibly disingenuous."
The FBI found him credible because they had independent information corroborating his account. The dossier was a small part of the evidence used to obtain a FISA warrant and its source was noted in a footnote in that application. The Trump Tower meeting with a russian agent did occur and there was discussion of russian sanctions at that meeting. Papodop's meetings with russian agents and his conversation with an australian diplomat regarding possible coordination re the emails and their release did occur. Roger Stone's communications with wikileaks re the timing of the release of emails is also now public. Perhaps nothing is there but you'd have to be a partisan moron to say that meetings with russian agents regarding US sanctions and possible assistance/coordination with the campaign is nothing worth investigating further. No one with any semblance of objectivity is going to argue that, especially given the history of guys like Flynn (attempt to kidnap Turkish cleric, improper contacts with Russia), Manafort, Stone, and Page.
"And the truth is, when you pull back the curtain on any particular piece of "evidence" of collusion, it always leads back to the same group of shady FBI/DOJ characters."
2 years ago no one on the right would say that about these "characters". This is all very recent invention produced directly in response to revelations that made Trump look bad. You have an independent prosecutor now anyway. But of course you'll argue that he's also part of the "deep-state" conspiracy. Anyone who fails to toe the Trumpian line is in on the conspiracy. You think Mueller and the experienced prosecutors on his team would be a part of an investigation if they thought it was all a sham based on illegal surveillance? Do really believe that they would lie about the results of their investigation in some pathetic attempt to assist the DNC? Have you ever met anyone at the DOJ?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3982407&forum_id=2#36096741)
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