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Is the United States a low-trust society? (yes)

Yeah, it kinda is, sadly. Granted, itís not on the level of ...
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Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party both recognized this an...
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was their any scholarship posted on this bort about these mo...
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lmao Canada
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Every single atty here should say THANK GOD IT IS
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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)

Yeah, it kinda is, sadly. Granted, itís not on the level of societies that have been low-trust for centuries, but we are getting there.

Peter Turchin is a great source on how societies move from high-trust to low-trust over time. One thing he points out is that itís an oscillation - when facing an external danger (the Gauls and Carthaginians with Rome, the Persians with Greece, the Axis with the West), a society bands together. Then, when the threat is gone, the society amasses a huge amount of social capital, which people start competing over. This competition becomes fiercer and fiercer, until the society becomes weak and another external threat arises. However, as a society goes through multiple iterations of this cycle, the amount of solidarity on the whole deteriorates. He points out Peninsular Italy as a perfect example - once a high-trust, high-solidarity society evolved, over two millennia, into a black hole of trust.

America is on the downswing of such an oscillation, because people have more or less lost faith in the social contract they were given. Ask yourself, as an American, how true these statements are:

A company values the work you do and will compensate you fairly for it.

You can trust a single company to do this for the entirety of your career.

If youíre fired or laid off, itís because you didnít provide enough value for the company.

Our financial elites have your best interests at heart. They are making it so that your financial life will have the best possible outcome.

Our political elites are doing everything they can to preserve the system of government that gives you the freedom you need to thrive, and to spread freedom throughout the world.

Does this sound like the truth? Or is it that companies use people and throw them away, that our financial elites have plundered our society while leaving hapless working people impoverished, and that our political elites are doing everything they can to deprive us of our freedoms while leeching off a global empire that destabilizes and destroys entire nations?

America is not at the level of Brazil (a hyper-low-trust society, where I happen to live). True low-trust societies bleed human capital because people do not trust one another on a personal level - how do I know you wonít steal my bike, how do I know youíll pay me, how do I know youíre not running a scam, how do I know this letter I send will arrive, and if I employ you can I rely on you to do your job rather than goof off? If people cannot trust one another in this basic sense, they canít build functional organizations, they canít build a working system of credit, and a modern economy cannot exist. Brazilís recent recession is a perfect example - their growth depended on a Chinese-driven commodity boom. When that ended, what was left was mostly mediocre companies that couldnít compete internationally.

Low trust societies seem to evolve in two ways. Either they have gone through successive disappointments over centuries - Italy, China, the Middle East - and have absorbed the lessons. Or, they begin as low-trust societies because of the political regime imposed on them - Iím thinking of Russia, which had Czarism from almost the very beginning, or Brazil, which began as a giant slave plantation.

America is neither of these. It does place an abnormally high degree of trust in individuals because our macro-disappointments havenít yet seeped into our personal behavior. It is still one of the best places to start a business, to make money, to work hard and be rewarded, and to put your money somewhere and be sure it will be there when you come back. Trains run on time, mail is delivered, companies are started efficiently, you donít have to bribe government officials to do their job, and we have a legal system where people can resolve their disputes. Itís not as good as it used to be, but itís still better than a lot of the world.

We still have a few more oscillations to go before we reach the state of a truly low-trust society. Weíre not Scandinavia or Canada, but weíre not Russia or China either.

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-US-transitioning-into-a-low-trust-society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36211557)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)

A mere 11 years ago, the new york times reported on a study by Robert Putnam. They actually dared public an article questioning diversity

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/08/05/world/americas/05iht-diversity.1.6986248.html

LA times too http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-rodriguez13aug13-column,amp.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36211565)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)

Shitlibs are pathetic GC slaves. Diversity destroys communities from the inside as people, naturally, prefer to associate with people similar to them culturally, with their ingroup. Global capitalism and our shithead representatives force diversity upon us to prop up the economy with cheap labor and new consumers. By sheer numbers, ingroups get infiltrated and dissolve, people shy away from social events where they once could be themselves and know they had substantial common ground with everyone in attendance, only to find the same events now filled with strange outsiders. So they stop attending. They isolate themselves. Communities fall apart as young people see little reason to stick around, and it snowballs into rootlessness.

The outsiders are not bad people. To some extent they aren't even there by choice. They can integrate and become great friends with the natives. But those are individual relationships and are not the rule, and you'll never control the incipient reaction of a populace.

It's maddening that these logical statements on the downside of diversity--nay, the existential threat of diversity--are dismissed as mere bigotry, hatred. Bigotry and hatred are population-level, ingroup reactions to the threat of diversity to their communities and way of life. They're manifestations of opposition to government representatives prioritizing economics (and their own wallets) over civilization. GOD FORBID someone might favor their community and way of life over the coffers of fat cats. Those monsters, those racists!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36211575)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:36 AM
Author: ''"'"''"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36211578)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: CHARLES DIGITAL (CharlesXII)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36211581)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: grad certs (acp)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212963)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: create teh fulcrum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212972)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212980)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: Sir Incelot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212989)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: niggardly jigger



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214640)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214857)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: ><<(^((*> (0x9219DDFD2869edABd47A8e905e87d76e42C712da)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214893)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Ciroc Obama (d/b/a Ciroc Obama)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36215070)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: don't run nigga i see you (and icu)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222695)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: The hunk with his junk in her trunk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222745)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36223114)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Bart O'Kavanaugh (#Qanon)

This is a good poast, but your basic point is you used to be able to say the n-word in a board meeting or talk about some hot pussy and not get fired.

Your bowling team can still be as racist as it wants to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420496)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: .,.,.:.,:,.:.,.,:.,.:.,:,.:.,:.,,..:,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420612)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420631)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (/dev/null)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420644)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: crazy pills



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36213000)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:39 AM
Author: u$po (retired) (fresh prince of bellevue)

of course

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36211582)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212835)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: create teh fulcrum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212982)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


Absolutely. The US is really all about enriching the top 1% at everyone else's expense. Pretty much everything has been set up in society to do just that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212978)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party both recognized this and responded. It would have been a game changer if those movements merged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212992)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: create teh fulcrum

was their any scholarship posted on this bort about these movements during their height

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36213002)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Ive seen others echo this thought, so Im sure there is something out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214516)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


the tea party quickly became a bunch of faggy boomers whining about their medicare while occupy was overrun by retarded SJW leftists who turned it into a race/gender thing, at which point it collapsed. lol @ trying to get patriotard boomers to use the "progressive stack."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214907)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


lmao Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36212995)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Oh, you travel?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36213008)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 6:48 PM
Author: guy who doesn't get it (Dork Enlightenment)

Everyone wants to steal your job and fuck your woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214529)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: guy who gets it (donny)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214608)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 7:04 PM
Author: spaceporn2525

Every single atty here should say THANK GOD IT IS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36214617)



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Date: June 9th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: TRUMP rulez

i take issue with the italy example. there's no trust from the bottom of society to the top of society -- i.e. everyone hates and doesn't trust the government etc. -- but between people and individuals there's higher trust than in the US. the average italian village has been a village of the same families for like centuries, if not longer. they all share deeper bonds than most millenial GC idiots could even imagine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36215046)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222510)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: BEAVER

Old enough to remember MFH in the year after 9/11. It really was astounding how much good will there was, in a diverse-as-fuck city that is a global center of aggressive profit taking.

It's gone now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222715)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: 1920 North Side Mick Gangster (Dead ringer for Family Guy's Mort Goldman minus a hundred pounds)

That kind of good will never lasts though; it was all artificial because people were scared shitless. Our mistake was thinking that it signaled some kind of actual change instead of just the standard human reaction to something scary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222796)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: THOT_RAVAGER

(guy who is slowly realizing in horror that the insane neocon straussians were actually right all along)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222851)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: 1920 North Side Mick Gangster (Dead ringer for Family Guy's Mort Goldman minus a hundred pounds)

? I'm not jewish bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36222858)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


LOL what an odd way to react to this subthread. A basic insight that follows from 30 seconds of thought about high trust/low trust societies is that "spreading democracy" is an utterly retarded concept.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36264818)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Bart O'Kavanaugh (#Qanon)

Lmao, are there poasters who are not old enough?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420505)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: BEAVER

posters who were under 22 eighteen year ago? Id say most.

And while some college students were mature enough to appreciate the change in culture in NY after 911, I dont think high school students count. Teenagers dont know shit, much less have perspective for a before-and-after shift like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420596)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: chad the impaler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36264658)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: In re: Favor House Atlantic

bit crypto will fix the trust problem!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36264691)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36267684)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36305901)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:04 AM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36416920)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:08 AM
Author: nyuug (Deutsche Mädchen gehören zu großer KOREANISCHER Schwanz)

guy who lives in a homogeneous first world country here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36416934)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36420470)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: (\/)(;,,;)(\/)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3997589&forum_id=2#36446156)