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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and d...
Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridic...
Yapping Locale
  06/15/18
I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they ar...
Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
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Yapping Locale
  06/15/18
Hit the gym
beady-eyed silver dilemma nowag
  06/15/18
I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I als...
Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
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Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with...
thirsty kitty cat
  06/15/18
i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and...
Galvanic onyx halford
  06/15/18
no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this
thirsty kitty cat
  06/15/18
no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two ...
Seedy heaven
  06/15/18
Does par really matter?
Spectacular bearded shrine
  06/15/18
this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things th...
Black library
  06/15/18
Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice t...
Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
shut up you stupid fucking retard
unhinged center personal credit line
  06/17/18
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Seedy heaven
  06/18/18
(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)
razzmatazz parlour
  06/15/18
These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill...
Adventurous filthpig lodge
  06/15/18
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Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency
  06/15/18
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chest-beating snowy kitchen dingle berry
  06/15/18
*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is th...
Well-lubricated pervert
  06/15/18
Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so...
Seedy heaven
  06/15/18
quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player n...
Well-lubricated pervert
  06/15/18
https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga...
Seedy heaven
  06/15/18
More like a small handful
Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. ...
Well-lubricated pervert
  06/15/18
Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole...
Slippery Chad
  06/15/18
rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" d...
Well-lubricated pervert
  06/15/18
ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has tr...
Adventurous filthpig lodge
  06/15/18
no its 180. nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unl...
ocher school cafeteria
  06/15/18
this X one million
Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency
  06/15/18
the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it ...
Wonderful Duck-like Blood Rage Abode
  06/15/18
It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppos...
Concupiscible alpha
  06/15/18
Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few year...
Stimulating Brilliant Plaza Sweet Tailpipe
  06/15/18
scramble your password
Seedy heaven
  06/15/18
i think it's 180. the US Open is supposed to be the tough...
Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency
  06/15/18
This is usual for a us open
racy judgmental trailer park
  06/15/18
I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The...
bright garrison quadroon
  06/15/18
...
razzmatazz parlour
  06/15/18
CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the...
Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency
  06/15/18
Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it mo...
thirsty kitty cat
  06/15/18
they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech i...
ocher school cafeteria
  06/15/18
stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into t...
ocher school cafeteria
  06/16/18
lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?
Well-lubricated pervert
  06/16/18
its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwi...
ocher school cafeteria
  06/16/18
...
Well-lubricated pervert
  06/16/18


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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: Slippery Chad

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: Yapping Locale

How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: Slippery Chad

I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Yapping Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: beady-eyed silver dilemma nowag

Hit the gym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Slippery Chad

I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Slippery Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: thirsty kitty cat

i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Galvanic onyx halford

i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: thirsty kitty cat

no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Seedy heaven

no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.

I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251071)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Spectacular bearded shrine

Does par really matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Black library

this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Slippery Chad

Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: unhinged center personal credit line

shut up you stupid fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: Seedy heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36264113)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: razzmatazz parlour

(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Adventurous filthpig lodge

These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.

Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251513)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: chest-beating snowy kitchen dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251669)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Well-lubricated pervert

*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver*

why is the course tougher?! not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251092)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Seedy heaven

Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Well-lubricated pervert

quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee.

no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251402)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Seedy heaven

https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/

basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251493)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Slippery Chad

More like a small handful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Well-lubricated pervert

http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html

that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251619)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Slippery Chad

Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Well-lubricated pervert

rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles.

or "almost as many" doubles as pars.

and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251799)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Adventurous filthpig lodge

ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: ocher school cafeteria

no its 180.

nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.

whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251138)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency

this X one million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Wonderful Duck-like Blood Rage Abode

the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Concupiscible alpha

It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Stimulating Brilliant Plaza Sweet Tailpipe

Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Seedy heaven

scramble your password

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251500)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency

i think it's 180.

the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.

this is no waste management open.

at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251551)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: racy judgmental trailer park

This is usual for a us open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: bright garrison quadroon

I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.

This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.

I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251848)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: razzmatazz parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251913)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Sepia talented sanctuary national security agency

CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: thirsty kitty cat

Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: ocher school cafeteria

they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: ocher school cafeteria

stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: Well-lubricated pervert

lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: ocher school cafeteria

its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Well-lubricated pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506)