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Drew and Discharged my Concealed .357 Magnum Today
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:06 AM Author: Jet brunch Was walking with a friend and our dogs through a city park this afternoon when a moose ran across our path about 10 feet in front of me. I'm not sure what had spooked it, but neither dog was harassing it. After crossing the trail, the moose ran about 15 yards up a hill and stopped. This is pretty typical stuff for Alaska, so I didn't think much of it until it attacked.
After a brief pause on the hill, the moose came running back towards the trail. I ran behind a tree with just enough time to see the moose raise up on its hind legs to stomp my friend's 15 year old deaf and blind dog. It attacked with both its front and hind legs, but fortunately none of the hits were direct and the dog escaped injury. I drew my ultralight .357 revolver loaded with .38 special self defense rounds as the moose continued into the brush which was obscuring my dog from sight.
My dog is a breed closely related to the Karelian bear dog and, like the Karelian, her breed uses speed and agility to hunt bear and other large game. I wasn't too worried about her since she could easily run circles around the moose, assuming that she recognized it as a threat. Well what she makes up in speed and beauty, she lacks in brains, and she didn't get out of the way. I heard her yelp and raised the firearm. The moose didn't pause to stomp, so I called my dog over and we began moving out of the area.
Moose aren't typically aggressive and tend to leave you alone after they've chased you off. Even so, I wasn't going to turn my back to it or holster the firearm while it was still nearby. We made it about 30 yards before the moose circled around and charged my dog again. I wasn't going to let the moose get anywhere near her this time, so I aimed in front of it and pulled the trigger, breaking the charge.
My friend called both dogs to follow him and sprinted up the trail with them while I watched the moose. I figured there was no way the moose was going to charge again now that the dogs were gone and I was walking backwards out of the area, but this was one aggressive fuckin moose. It charged me again when it was about 30 feet away. If we had been anywhere outside the city, I would have shot it in the face, but it would be front page news if something like that happened in a city park, so I aimed between its legs and pulled the trigger, scaring the moose enough to break the charge.
I caught up with my friend but didn't holster the firearm until we were at least 150 yards from the scene of the first encounter. Once out of harm's way we decided to get out of the area since the cops were almost certainly on the way and, while I would definitely report having killed a moose, I wanted to avoid answering any questions about having discharged a firearm within city limits.
Just got home and my pulse is still well above 100. I bathed my dog and she seems fine, so she doesn't appear to have been hurt by the moose. Probably going to pick up a box of hot FMJ .357 rounds to carry the next time I'm in the park because the hollow point .38 special rounds I was carrying would likely be inadequate for anything but a head shot. |
Date: June 19th, 2018 1:12 AM Author: Passionate Balding Weed Whacker Organic Girlfriend replace "moose" with "nigger" and it makes sense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270174) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: Maroon striped hyena replace 357 with tiny jewish penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36376358) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:15 AM Author: french jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270178) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:16 AM Author: Hyperactive underhanded roommate dilemma 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270182) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:31 AM Author: Razzmatazz dun juggernaut abode this makes me want to move to alaska (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270210) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:58 AM Author: Jet brunch Cr Alaska is 180. I live in one of the most urban neighborhoods in the biggest city in the state and earlier this month walked outside to find a black bear about 50 yards away in a neighbor’s yard. The week before that I saw two black bears in the park I was in today. Another time I encountered a MASSIVE brown bear and two cubs in our yard when we lived in a more rural part of town. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270265) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Burgundy Circlehead Friendly Grandma jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36271697) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:37 AM Author: Razzle selfie 180 story. Glad the pooch is okay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270222) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: Jet brunch Ty. check out a pic of the pooch below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270256) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:42 AM Author: umber disrespectful pit Your dog is awesome. The moose probably had calves around or a bear had already gotten it's calves and it was on high alert.
This could have been you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhODbr1Cp7Q.
I get back wednesday, going to drop off your dolly. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:50 AM Author: Jet brunch Indeed she is awesome. That's the guy that got stomped outside of UAA, right? My wife went to elementary school with his granddaughter and refers to the incident with Shelly's granddad regularly.
I'll be around all day Wednesday. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: umber disrespectful pit Cool, see you then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270255) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:53 AM Author: Jet brunch Update: pic of the pooch
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Date: June 19th, 2018 8:06 AM Author: gold forum 180 puppydood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270558) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:12 PM Author: Jet brunch Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273670) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Razzle selfie 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36271683) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:12 PM Author: Jet brunch Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273671) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: fragrant personal credit line pisswyrm 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273680) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:07 PM Author: Grizzly Water Buffalo Nice doggie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36275569) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:04 AM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270272) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:21 AM Author: Mind-boggling casino Shoot to kill dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270398) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 8:11 AM Author: Jet brunch Yeah on 2 legged predators
In city parks where moose are abundant and a shooting would make front page news, absolutely not |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:43 AM Author: Mind-boggling casino If your life is threatened, you shoot to kill no matter where you are. If your life is not threatened, you don’t shoot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270975) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:43 AM Author: umber disrespectful pit His dog's life was threatened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270977) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:48 AM Author: Mind-boggling casino “...the dogs were gone and I was walking backwards out of the area, but this was one aggressive fuckin moose. It charged me again when it was about 30 feet away.”
Shoot to kill. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: umber disrespectful pit Missed that part
It was only a 357 though. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:43 PM Author: Jet brunch *.357 loaded with hollowpoint .38 special rounds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273530) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: Jet brunch Brother, I agree 100% if we’re talking about humans, but this was a large wild animal in a city park. The whole “only draw if you intend to shoot, only shoot if you intend to kill” thing is what you’re taught in CCW class because it applies to human predators. With humans, indicating that you have a weapon or shooting to scare gives your assailant time and warning with which they may arm themselves or disarm you. This wasn’t one of those situations, and I successfully used the resources at my disposal to avoid the two potential outcomes that would have made front page news; me being attacked by a moose in a large, popular city park, or me killing a moose in a large, popular city park. I 100% stand by my decision to discharge the firearm in order to scare the moose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273657) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:34 AM Author: Concupiscible learning disabled native useless brakes Pror Terr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270407) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:54 AM Author: Cerebral new version Glock 20 and double tap ammo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270524) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 8:14 AM Author: Jet brunch i have a glock 29 with buffalo bore ammo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270586) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Cerebral new version I would feel better about that than a skadnium .357.
I can’t hit shit with a 2in .357. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Jet brunch The moose was close enough that a headshot wasn't out of the question and surprisingly enough, I'm far more accurate with my snub nose 342PD and 3" Model 60 than I am with my g29. Regardless, I wasn't carrying the .357 for 4 legged predators. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270648) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:40 AM Author: histrionic national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36270959) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: Jet brunch For moose and bear you want heavy FMJ or hardcast because you need all the penetration you can get. Hollowpoint handgun rounds are designed to deposit all of their energy between 12 and 18 inch of soft tissue. That’s sufficient for humans but nowhere near ideal for penetrating the hundreds to thousands of pounds of hair, hide, fat, muscle, and bone that you need to penetrate to kill large game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273581) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: histrionic national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273807) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:09 PM Author: Jet brunch The reason that round penetrated so far is because it’s a .357 round designed for a 4” barrel and will not expand reliably with shorter barrels. If you look at the test for the same round out of a 4” barrel, average penetration actually falls by over 10” despite the higher energy of a 4” barrel. You can see the unexpanded bullets in the pics from the same test below.
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/ |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Jet brunch Surprisingly enough, I didn’t notice the recoil on the scandium gun at all. Could be because I was only shooting Hornady Critical Defense 38 special +P rounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273667) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:26 AM Author: histrionic national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36373064) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: Jet brunch yeah i have them in .38 +p and 9mm. they seem to be pretty legit, though i might pick up some ammo designed specifically for short barrels, since my 9mm is a micro and my .357s are snub and 3"
also bought some .38 +p Critical Defense Lite rounds for when my wife carries the scandium gun. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273520) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 5:53 PM Author: Charismatic lake philosopher-king Well, at least the Bear Patrol is keeping everyone safe: https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/thumb/e/e0/Bear_patrol.png/250px-Bear_patrol.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36273868) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36275453) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:19 AM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36373055) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36376255) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:05 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#36477981) |
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Date: August 28th, 2019 6:31 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#38756299) |
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Date: October 6th, 2019 4:54 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#38938151) |
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Date: October 6th, 2019 5:03 PM Author: Jet brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#38938192) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:50 PM Author: Jet brunch Ty it's one of the most exciting experiences I've ever had! I was talking to my buddy recently and he said that as soon as I heard my dog yelp when the moose kicked her or whatever, I pulled the gun and began shit talking the moose. I didn't remember until he reminded me, but I started yelling things like "that's my best friend you dumb motherfucker! I'm gonna fuck you up if you don't back off, you moose piece of shit!" I remember him loling about it at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&forum_id=2#40562608) |