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Trump and Nielsens embarrassing surrender on border separations
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:11 AM Author: Cheese-eating Adventurous Indian Lodge Haunted Graveyard https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/20/trump-and-kirstjen-nielsens-embarrassing-surrender-on-separating-families/?utm_term=.808b21d05521
The Trump administration insisted it didn't have a policy of separating children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border. It said that it was merely following the law. And it said “Congress alone can fix” the mess.
It just admitted that all that was nonsense — and that it badly overplayed its hand.
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, who on Sunday and Monday insisted that this wasn't an actual policy and that the administration's hands are tied, will now have to untie them as the White House will reverse the supposedly nonexistent policy. Amid an outcry from Senate Republicans and an emerging promise to fix the problem themselves — just as the White House had demanded — the Trump administration has drafted an executive action to change the policy and keep families united.
It's at once an admission that the politics of the issue had gotten out of hand and that the administration's arguments were completely dishonest. Virtually everything it said about the policy is tossed aside with this executive action. It's the political equivalent of waving the white flag and the legal equivalent of confessing to making false statements. Rather than letting Congress rebuke it, the White House is rebuking itself and trying to save some face. |
Date: June 21st, 2018 8:18 AM Author: Supple incel deer antler Did they read the executive order? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283185) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:37 AM Author: titillating brunch hissy fit what does it say? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283216) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:19 AM Author: Sepia Multi-colored Property Half-breed They are essentially running afoul of current law (Flores) by instituting this new policy.
It doesn't contradict anything they said in the last few weeks about following the law. |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:36 AM Author: umber stage Guess how much I expect to hear about this on FB today?
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Shitlibs get to feel like they got a victory, and Trump gets exactly what he wanted: No more catch and release. |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:43 AM Author: Cheese-eating Adventurous Indian Lodge Haunted Graveyard Completely ass backwards to suggest that Trump cares about policy and doesn’t care about optics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283231) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:56 AM Author: umber stage He doesn't care about optics. He knows how to manipulate the media to do what he wants. He's done it for years. You just refuse to see or accept that. No one is going to challenge his EO b/c that would mean a return to separating families. They can be detained WITH their families indefinitely, which is what he wanted all along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283265) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:21 AM Author: Carnelian razzle-dazzle heaven "He doesn't care about optics."
I'm sorry, have you been in a coma since January 2017? |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:23 AM Author: umber stage Have you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283736) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:37 AM Author: ivory mental disorder one of Trump's worst cucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283218) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:08 AM Author: blue locale So we're still criminally prosecuting the border bunnies. O WHAT A EMBARRASSING SURRENDER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283315) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:11 AM Author: Opaque Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283325) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:11 AM Author: Useless gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283328) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:22 AM Author: Carnelian razzle-dazzle heaven Keep movin' them goalposts back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283727) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:23 AM Author: blue locale Keeping a new policy is moving the goalposts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283738) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:24 AM Author: Carnelian razzle-dazzle heaven But I thought there was no policy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283742) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:28 AM Author: blue locale There isn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283762) |
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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:24 AM Author: Grizzly toilet seat stead Did libs just imply Trump fixed this issue?
Because it really isn't fixed, and Congress alone can actually fix it. |