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Trump and Nielsens embarrassing surrender on border separations

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/20/tr...
Orchid chad school
  06/21/18
Did they read the executive order?
Hot Background Story
  06/21/18
what does it say?
Black contagious partner
  06/21/18
They are essentially running afoul of current law (Flores) b...
Spruce Bearded Theater Stage Philosopher-king
  06/21/18
Guess how much I expect to hear about this on FB today? 0...
Milky beady-eyed party of the first part orchestra pit
  06/21/18
Completely ass backwards to suggest that Trump cares about p...
Orchid chad school
  06/21/18
He doesn't care about optics. He knows how to manipulate the...
Milky beady-eyed party of the first part orchestra pit
  06/21/18
"He doesn't care about optics." I'm sorry, have...
Multi-colored Sexy Azn
  06/21/18
Have you?
Milky beady-eyed party of the first part orchestra pit
  06/21/18
one of Trump's worst cucks
Misanthropic heaven
  06/21/18
So we're still criminally prosecuting the border bunnies. O ...
Obsidian domesticated locale
  06/21/18
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Big Maroon Idea He Suggested Cruise Ship
  06/21/18
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dark business firm
  06/21/18
Keep movin' them goalposts back.
Multi-colored Sexy Azn
  06/21/18
Keeping a new policy is moving the goalposts?
Obsidian domesticated locale
  06/21/18
But I thought there was no policy?
Multi-colored Sexy Azn
  06/21/18
There isn't.
Obsidian domesticated locale
  06/21/18
Did libs just imply Trump fixed this issue? Because it re...
Electric site
  06/21/18


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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:11 AM
Author: Orchid chad school

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/20/trump-and-kirstjen-nielsens-embarrassing-surrender-on-separating-families/?utm_term=.808b21d05521

The Trump administration insisted it didn't have a policy of separating children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border. It said that it was merely following the law. And it said “Congress alone can fix” the mess.

It just admitted that all that was nonsense — and that it badly overplayed its hand.

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, who on Sunday and Monday insisted that this wasn't an actual policy and that the administration's hands are tied, will now have to untie them as the White House will reverse the supposedly nonexistent policy. Amid an outcry from Senate Republicans and an emerging promise to fix the problem themselves — just as the White House had demanded — the Trump administration has drafted an executive action to change the policy and keep families united.

It's at once an admission that the politics of the issue had gotten out of hand and that the administration's arguments were completely dishonest. Virtually everything it said about the policy is tossed aside with this executive action. It's the political equivalent of waving the white flag and the legal equivalent of confessing to making false statements. Rather than letting Congress rebuke it, the White House is rebuking itself and trying to save some face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283172)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:18 AM
Author: Hot Background Story

Did they read the executive order?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283185)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:37 AM
Author: Black contagious partner

what does it say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283216)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: Spruce Bearded Theater Stage Philosopher-king

They are essentially running afoul of current law (Flores) by instituting this new policy.

It doesn't contradict anything they said in the last few weeks about following the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283708)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:36 AM
Author: Milky beady-eyed party of the first part orchestra pit

Guess how much I expect to hear about this on FB today?

0

Shitlibs get to feel like they got a victory, and Trump gets exactly what he wanted: No more catch and release.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283213)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: Orchid chad school

Completely ass backwards to suggest that Trump cares about policy and doesn’t care about optics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283231)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:56 AM
Author: Milky beady-eyed party of the first part orchestra pit

He doesn't care about optics. He knows how to manipulate the media to do what he wants. He's done it for years. You just refuse to see or accept that. No one is going to challenge his EO b/c that would mean a return to separating families. They can be detained WITH their families indefinitely, which is what he wanted all along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283265)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sexy Azn

"He doesn't care about optics."

I'm sorry, have you been in a coma since January 2017?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283722)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Milky beady-eyed party of the first part orchestra pit

Have you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283736)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:37 AM
Author: Misanthropic heaven

one of Trump's worst cucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283218)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:08 AM
Author: Obsidian domesticated locale

So we're still criminally prosecuting the border bunnies. O WHAT A EMBARRASSING SURRENDER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283315)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:11 AM
Author: Big Maroon Idea He Suggested Cruise Ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283325)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:11 AM
Author: dark business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283328)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sexy Azn

Keep movin' them goalposts back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283727)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Obsidian domesticated locale

Keeping a new policy is moving the goalposts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283738)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sexy Azn

But I thought there was no policy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283742)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: Obsidian domesticated locale

There isn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283762)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Electric site

Did libs just imply Trump fixed this issue?

Because it really isn't fixed, and Congress alone can actually fix it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007080&forum_id=2#36283743)