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CharlesXII, have you read Graham Greene or William Trevor?

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180 Site Affirmative Action
  06/21/18
No, though I'll likely get around to Greene in the next coup...
Odious step-uncle's house
  06/21/18
I’m honestly a little shocked to hear this. And a little jea...
Jade Fiercely-loyal Business Firm Skinny Woman
  06/21/18
There are plenty of Catholic-ish writers I haven't read or o...
Odious step-uncle's house
  06/21/18
Have u read Greene, quotemo? I've read The End of the Affai...
Apoplectic thriller lodge
  06/21/18
i have not, but he was highly recommended. what do you like ...
180 Site Affirmative Action
  06/21/18
Just very elegant prose, books are lean without any filler. ...
Apoplectic thriller lodge
  06/21/18
Jonathan Franzen said Graham Greene is overrated https://...
180 Site Affirmative Action
  06/21/18
I can see the argument because they're so well constructed, ...
Apoplectic thriller lodge
  06/21/18
what do you mean by being so well constructed? how could a n...
180 Site Affirmative Action
  06/21/18
Franzen probably thinks more pointless meandering sprawl mak...
Apoplectic thriller lodge
  06/21/18
Strange -- Franzen not a good judge of literary talent
Fluffy territorial hunting ground
  06/21/18
Franzen is the definition of overrated
Gaped bawdyhouse partner
  06/21/18
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Fluffy territorial hunting ground
  06/21/18
The heart of the matter is great too
Gaped bawdyhouse partner
  06/21/18
Greene is terrific
Aqua big-titted prole ceo
  06/21/18
what do you like about him. any comparisons to an american w...
180 Site Affirmative Action
  06/21/18
Something about his writing feels so distinctly British to m...
Apoplectic thriller lodge
  06/21/18
End of the Affair is great--technically difficult. For me, ...
Fluffy territorial hunting ground
  06/21/18
Greene is a must read for any good, well-read Catholic. Powe...
Hateful Rehab Pisswyrm
  06/21/18
Saw the Michael Caine version 5 or so years ago, just read t...
Apoplectic thriller lodge
  06/21/18
Caine movie was pretty good but hard to measure up to the bo...
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Odious step-uncle's house

No, though I'll likely get around to Greene in the next couple years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287443)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: Jade Fiercely-loyal Business Firm Skinny Woman

I’m honestly a little shocked to hear this. And a little jealous that you get to read Greene for the first time, you have some great reading ahead of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287876)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: Odious step-uncle's house

There are plenty of Catholic-ish writers I haven't read or only read recently. There are dozens of great authors, thousands of great books, and only so much time in one's life, sadly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36288422)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Apoplectic thriller lodge

Have u read Greene, quotemo? I've read The End of the Affair, Our Man in Havana, and The Quiet American. Big fan of his writing. Our Man in Havana was probably my favorite from a pure entertainment perspective- very funny take on the spy novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287445)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action

i have not, but he was highly recommended. what do you like about his style

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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: Apoplectic thriller lodge

Just very elegant prose, books are lean without any filler. Seems to capture the feel of foreign places well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287504)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action

Jonathan Franzen said Graham Greene is overrated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5FvI33QH1M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287562)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:25 PM
Author: Apoplectic thriller lodge

I can see the argument because they're so well constructed, but if you don't really buy into his catholicism theme and how it drives the characters, something like The End of the Affair seems like a sort of prim contrived "serious novel". I haven't read enough, but I think I'm more drawn to his more "entertainment" novels, anyway, since spy novels are one of the few genre novels I like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287686)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action

what do you mean by being so well constructed? how could a novel be good without being well constructed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287733)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Apoplectic thriller lodge

Franzen probably thinks more pointless meandering sprawl makes a novel more true or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287745)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:30 PM
Author: Fluffy territorial hunting ground

Strange -- Franzen not a good judge of literary talent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287717)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:35 PM
Author: Gaped bawdyhouse partner

Franzen is the definition of overrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287747)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: Fluffy territorial hunting ground



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: Gaped bawdyhouse partner

The heart of the matter is great too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287706)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Aqua big-titted prole ceo

Greene is terrific

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287572)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:20 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action

what do you like about him. any comparisons to an american writer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287657)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: Apoplectic thriller lodge

Something about his writing feels so distinctly British to me. More like Ishiguro, McEwan, Julian Barnes, than any recent American novelists I can think of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287845)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: Fluffy territorial hunting ground

End of the Affair is great--technically difficult. For me, the best is The Power and the Glory. Also, the novella and screenplay for the Third Man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287719)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: Hateful Rehab Pisswyrm

Greene is a must read for any good, well-read Catholic. Power and the Glory and The Quiet American are great. Anyone see any of the two Quiet American movies? Worth watching?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36288178)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: Apoplectic thriller lodge

Saw the Michael Caine version 5 or so years ago, just read the book recently. It was pretty good, maybe a near-miss. I'll probably watch it again after having just read the book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36288232)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: Gaped bawdyhouse partner

Caine movie was pretty good but hard to measure up to the book which was a masterpiece

End of the affair was one of the GOAT for me but partly because I was in a relationship like the one in the book and it was mind blowing that he could write it all so concisely

Beyond just the stories his word craft is brilliant

But Jonathan franzen thinks he’s over rated so...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36294530)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action



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Date: June 24th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: 180 Site Affirmative Action



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