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You can see how MENTALLY ILL this NY Times journalist must be (young woman)

Read this shit, jfc https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/bu...
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but what's key is how she acts, notice how she SHOVES in the...
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what does it say about Politico and the NYT that they hired ...
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Yeah no way Wolfe was her only slip up Girl's a dumb whor...
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LOL at catty coworkers calling this girl a slut
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i wouldn't fuck this ali watkins woman drunk. i'm not even s...
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Mr. Wolfe, 57, was arrested on June 7 and charged with lying...
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oh what an intelligence expert
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LOL reading through this chick has had at least 3 "rela...
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LJL at the times being outraged that her records were seized...
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Trump said pussy. Square enough for you bigot?
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So Wolfe's MO is exchanging tips to young reporters as an &q...
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women have no agency and are not responsible for any poor de...
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but we need a lot more of them as CEOs of major businesses
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not to defend her, but don't pretend like the wizened dood w...
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worse IMO bc he's a gov't official.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 6:59 AM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal

Read this shit, jfc

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/business/media/james-wolfe-ali-watkins-leaks-reporter.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304824)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:06 AM
Author: Vengeful goyim psychic

Lol at DC where a 4 gets showered with attention, gifts, and meals from old hack bureaucrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304830)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:07 AM
Author: thriller awkward sex offender hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304831)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:12 AM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal

but what's key is how she acts, notice how she SHOVES in the FACE of her colleagues OH SOME MAN GAVE ME CHOCOLATE !!! SIGH!!!

these are mentally ill people, I know because I am one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304836)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:23 AM
Author: Stirring Know-it-all Prole

what does it say about Politico and the NYT that they hired her? And it's not like she was an Ivy Leaguer. She went to TTTemple. NYT only hires 3 types of people: ppl from brand name schools, jews and minorities. Ergo, she wouldn't have accomplished jack shit in journalism if she didn't suck this old man's dick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304842)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:45 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304872)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:12 AM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304835)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:26 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304847)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:31 AM
Author: Stirring Know-it-all Prole

Yeah no way Wolfe was her only slip up

Girl's a dumb whore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304851)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:32 AM
Author: Vengeful goyim psychic

LOL at catty coworkers calling this girl a slut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304855)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: carnelian internal respiration legal warrant

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305090)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: Filthy blood rage



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Flatulent haunting persian preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305206)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: 180 crawly friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308771)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 3:52 AM
Author: Tripping Appetizing Jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310544)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: shivering salmon kitchen

Let’s dispel the illusion that this writer doesn’t know exactly what they’re doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305151)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36306040)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:26 AM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304848)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:32 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304854)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: magenta offensive locale double fault

HER JOURNALISM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305095)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305122)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305274)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: glassy fiercely-loyal church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305523)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: 180 crawly friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308772)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 3:05 AM
Author: Nudist Volcanic Crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310514)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:43 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304868)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:59 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304885)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: iridescent karate home

NOTHING comes between a shrew and her travel plans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305946)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305959)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:00 AM
Author: Exhilarant Faggot Firefighter

i wouldn't fuck this ali watkins woman drunk. i'm not even sure i'd let her blow me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304886)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:53 AM
Author: Maniacal station

Mr. Wolfe, 57, was arrested on June 7 and charged with lying to investigators about his contacts with Ms. Watkins and three other journalists.

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So he had 4 journalists chicks in rotation?

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The gray-haired father of two stood out amid the young crowd who gathered for barbecues in Ms. Watkins’s backyard in the Adams Morgan neighborhood of Washington. She introduced him as Jim, her boyfriend.

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This seems incompetent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305013)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: histrionic center foreskin

oh what an intelligence expert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305148)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:01 AM
Author: Vengeful goyim psychic

LOL reading through this chick has had at least 3 "relationships" with sources

what a fucking slore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305036)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: zombie-like unholy menage

LJL at the times being outraged that her records were seized by the government because there was "no allegation that classified information was disclosed." Hard to see how that squares with them being rah rah for Michael Cohen's office to be raided.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305091)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: Infuriating resort

Trump said pussy. Square enough for you bigot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305125)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac black organic girlfriend location

“People all across Washington are in all sorts of various relationships,” Ryan Grim, Ms. Watkins’s former editor at The Huffington Post, said in an interview. “You manage it, you put up walls, but you can’t pretend that you’re not human. Ali is a great reporter and I trust her judgment.

What I see is the Trump administration seizing a reporter’s records and tricking the press into writing about her sex life,” added Mr. Grim, who is now the Washington bureau chief of The Intercept. “It’s appalling what the Trump administration is doing and I don’t think you should enable it."

Lmao @ this so-called journalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305145)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: shivering salmon kitchen

Mr Grim has fallen really far since Twisted Metal 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305158)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:47 PM
Author: medicated sweet tailpipe principal's office



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: Adulterous newt factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310457)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:08 AM
Author: Rose wagecucks brethren

He's the same idiot who stole Jesse watters cell phone and started a fight with him at the White House correspondents dinner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310462)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Vengeful goyim psychic

So on a scale of 1 to ethical, how does everyone feel about pulling a @RealZoeBarnes for story ideas? #TOTALLYKIDDING @HouseofCards

https://twitter.com/aliwatkins/status/347800186195701760?s=21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305149)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Vengeful goyim psychic

https://twitter.com/aliwatkins/status/319071061566169088?s=21

I wanted to be Zoe Barnes...until episode 4. Sleeping with your source- especially a vindictive congressman? #badlifechoice #HouseofCards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305155)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: histrionic center foreskin

lolling at this old impotent fag sleeping with some ugly bumble monster and thinking he's 007

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305159)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Yellow startled bbw associate



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: Massive degenerate macaca



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: aggressive orange plaza cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305257)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: Unhinged therapy love of her life

"jimbarnes007@gmail.com" is the true laugh-out-loud moment in this article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305427)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: Blue Rigor Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305920)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305953)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305437)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: iridescent karate home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305952)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: 180 crawly friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308779)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Yellow startled bbw associate

So Wolfe's MO is exchanging tips to young reporters as an "in". Watkins is a reporter covering the specific committee Wolfe is on, and despite being very young and otherwise ordinary manages to get hot takes all the time.

She kind of discloses the relationship but not really.

As soon as she's outed, she breaks off her 3 year relationship with Wolfe, who incidentally starts the process all over again with another young female reporter, and immediately starts dating someone else who can feed her info.

Yes, the real story is a breach of the journalist's privacy and creepy obsession with a young woman's sex life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305197)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: soul-stirring jade field

incisive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305438)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap

women have no agency and are not responsible for any poor decisions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305447)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: glassy fiercely-loyal church building

but we need a lot more of them as CEOs of major businesses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305520)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: Massive degenerate macaca

https://goo.gl/images/sqaDXU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305763)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: underhanded hairless stage gunner

not to defend her, but don't pretend like the wizened dood was any better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305854)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Yellow startled bbw associate

worse IMO bc he's a gov't official.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305909)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap

No one is defending or excusing him. Hes being federally prosecuted.

Our point is that she should also be shamed and run out of journalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305918)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Insane twinkling mexican

This is why they used to use eunuchs as bureaucrats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305558)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: coiffed drab school shitlib



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305853)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 3:56 AM
Author: Tripping Appetizing Jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310546)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap

“With no allegation that classified information was disclosed, they said such a rare and aggressive tactic was unjustified and could undermine journalists’ ability to report on government misconduct.“

JFC shitlib journos - they are evidence of a fucking crime. Contrary to what you want to believe, you dont have protections above and beyond the average citizen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305269)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: glassy fiercely-loyal church building

lib "journalists" so desperate to find dirt on Trump they're reduced to selling their bodies to predatory swamp politicians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305518)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: Sexy boltzmann brunch

Every time I check a pic of the woman involved in something like this I think of Peter griffin saying "oh that's fine. We don't care about meg."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308801)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: abnormal ebony sneaky criminal



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: Rose wagecucks brethren

cr. this is the image she self selected for her twitter - i.e. the "best" picture of her. let that sink in.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/993895381523148800/AQNCzf5X_400x400.jpg

look at those bags under her eyes, neck as thick as a linebacker, big nose, old lady lips

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310028)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 1:01 AM
Author: swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap

But she looks so smart and profssional!

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Date: June 26th, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Massive degenerate macaca

Loving the term bumble monster

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