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Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
How long have you been an inhousemo. Do you dream about goin...
Nudist drab newt
  06/25/18
I've been in-house in 2 places - a small business and a mega...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Then tell me why you stay. I'm working more and more for som...
Nudist drab newt
  06/25/18
1) I enjoy my work and my area 2) The WFH (see below) ...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Thanks for taking the time btw. I’m relatively junior for my...
Nudist drab newt
  06/25/18
Good luck. Look, do what you want. Once you have enough ex...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
what is your current salary? where will you top out?
Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann
  06/25/18
$200-$250k, depending on bonus, profit sharing, etc. If I...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
How old are you?
up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part
  06/25/18
Mid-30s.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Ylol
up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part
  06/25/18
?
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
37-38 is no longer mid-30s dude!
razzle drunken mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/18
Wait, no? Well fuck.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
...
Aquamarine Pisswyrm
  06/25/18
how much of your identity is tied to being in-house counsel?
cerebral sapphire giraffe
  06/25/18
Well ITT it is essential. But realistically, for people tha...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
110%
histrionic famous landscape painting
  06/25/18
Labels you NON-COMPLIANT
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
How do you deal with stress when a big deadline is approachi...
Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen
  06/25/18
Power through it. Focus on the task at hand and try to get ...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
He cracks open a hard cider
razzle drunken mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/18
That is for when the task at hand is complete.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Have you ever used cocaine?
Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann
  06/25/18
Nope.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Y
Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann
  06/25/18
I've always avoided drugs.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
hmm
Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann
  06/25/18
No gut?
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Transactional?
Lemon jet-lagged field azn
  06/25/18
Specialty area. I also represent a line of business (LOB). ...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
lob friend?
Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann
  06/25/18
what does the parlance "representing a line of business...
Effete Public Bath
  06/25/18
Sounds like an insurance company.
at-the-ready heady hunting ground
  06/25/18
Nope.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Megacorps do this a lot. There are two kinds of lawyers in ...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Fascinating.
Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen
  06/25/18
...
up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part
  06/25/18
...
bateful underhanded lay mad cow disease
  06/25/18
And let me tell you about weekly reports! They're just a ho...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
lmfao at this opaque job description
infuriating medicated hospital place of business
  06/25/18
do you consider yourself theological yes or no
Carmine Territorial Stain
  06/25/18
Aside from our aspie semantic argument in the other thread, ...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
cr friend
Carmine Territorial Stain
  06/25/18
If you're a lawyer, why are your debate/argumentation skills...
infuriating medicated hospital place of business
  06/25/18
tmf #1 orator in russia BREH
Carmine Territorial Stain
  06/25/18
Do you ever feel any of the following things about your care...
180 Bronze Native Keepsake Machete
  06/25/18
1) Yes, of course. That's the UMC trap. Btw, people making...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Re: #2, he didn’t ask you if you were useful. He asked if yo...
Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen
  06/25/18
I'm in a more tech-oriented role, so I can safely say that I...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
did you, like ARE REPTILE, create an insurance product?
Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann
  06/25/18
lolno.
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
Lol you are a data protection monkey. Fuck off
up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part
  06/25/18
TMF: bashing my lifestyle in one thread TMF: laments his...
infuriating medicated hospital place of business
  06/25/18
I don't lament my lifestyle. I'm just a realist. I hate ri...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
...
up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part
  06/25/18
how often do you use external & how do you manage them
pungent feces
  06/25/18
Periodically. By sending them emails and scheduling cal...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
what are your hours like? how often do you have stressful f...
Spectacular sandwich
  06/25/18
Probably 50ish hours a week which can be as little as 40 or ...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
This sounds like shit for 200k in NYC
up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part
  06/26/18
How do you sort your outlook? Do you have lots of sub folder...
Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen
  06/25/18
You know, when I started at my current job I was 100% commit...
Grizzly arousing volcanic crater
  06/25/18
What’s your ratio of red to not red on a typical day
Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen
  06/25/18


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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306152)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Nudist drab newt

How long have you been an inhousemo. Do you dream about going solo, or is it still worth it?

I'm using my current in-house gig for connections etc (it's a solid player in my industry) but grinding it out for GC is killing my soul a little bit. I want to go solo and be my own boss and all that. Is there hoap?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306195)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

I've been in-house in 2 places - a small business and a megacorp. Total, something like 7 years and some change.

I have never dreamed of going solo. In fact, I've never even understood why people desire this. But there are plenty of solos here on XO who are in a better position to answer your qs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306213)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Nudist drab newt

Then tell me why you stay. I'm working more and more for someone else and if I'm going to work this hard, I'd rather it be on my own accord than someone who sees me as a line item at the end of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306223)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

1) I enjoy my work and my area

2) The WFH (see below)

3) The stability. I used to work for a small business and the constant booms and busts are exhausting. I like knowing what my salary will be, that I can take vacation, that there's the potential for a promotion. Overall, it is a pretty good lifestyle. Yes, it does involve a lot of work but everything lucrative does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306254)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: Nudist drab newt

Thanks for taking the time btw. I’m relatively junior for my title, so I’m still sticking with it. 4 weeks vacation also. Things are beginning to go to shit with a new exec team, and hoping that a wfh arrangement could make it more palatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306377)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Good luck. Look, do what you want. Once you have enough experience, you can leave, try solo, and if you don't like it or it doesn't work out you can find a new in-house job assuming the economy cooperates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306460)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann

what is your current salary? where will you top out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306215)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

$200-$250k, depending on bonus, profit sharing, etc.

If I get the promotion I'm gunning for I'll be getting ~$300k and will probably just stay where I am at that point, assuming that happens.

Keep in mind, I work from home like 90% of the time. This is a huge draw for me. I also get over 4 weeks of vacation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306240)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part

How old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306387)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Mid-30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306461)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part

Ylol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306466)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306496)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: razzle drunken mad-dog skullcap

37-38 is no longer mid-30s dude!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306538)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Wait, no? Well fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306549)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Aquamarine Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306674)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: cerebral sapphire giraffe

how much of your identity is tied to being in-house counsel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306389)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Well ITT it is essential. But realistically, for people that work a lot their jobs are inevitably a large part of their identities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306465)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: histrionic famous landscape painting

110%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306467)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Labels you NON-COMPLIANT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306500)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen

How do you deal with stress when a big deadline is approaching?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306606)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Power through it. Focus on the task at hand and try to get it done. Once it is done you feel better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306650)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: razzle drunken mad-dog skullcap

He cracks open a hard cider

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306652)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

That is for when the task at hand is complete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306657)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann

Have you ever used cocaine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306636)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306646)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann

Y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306673)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

I've always avoided drugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306779)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann

hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306780)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

No gut?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306783)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: Lemon jet-lagged field azn

Transactional?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306666)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Specialty area. I also represent a line of business (LOB).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306682)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann

lob friend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306777)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Effete Public Bath

what does the parlance "representing a line of business" mean? never heard it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306899)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: at-the-ready heady hunting ground

Sounds like an insurance company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306906)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306925)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Megacorps do this a lot. There are two kinds of lawyers in large legal departments - specialists ("I do tax and I do it for everyone") and people that are lawyers for a specific part of the business and each part of the business is an LOB ("I represent the EMEA and LATAM parts of our Enterprise business"). LOB lawyers are the first line of contact for that part of the business, so if I get a labor law question for my portion of the business, I connect them with the labor lawyers. Now, most work in my LOB relates to my specialty area, so there's a reason why they did it this way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306943)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen

Fascinating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307057)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308442)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: bateful underhanded lay mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309517)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

And let me tell you about weekly reports! They're just a hoot and a holler!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309534)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: infuriating medicated hospital place of business

lmfao at this opaque job description

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307078)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Carmine Territorial Stain

do you consider yourself theological yes or no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306948)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Aside from our aspie semantic argument in the other thread, it is a weird usage of the term. Just like a have a STEM grad degree but don't consider myself "scientific."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306962)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Carmine Territorial Stain

cr friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306980)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: infuriating medicated hospital place of business

If you're a lawyer, why are your debate/argumentation skills so poor and unrefined?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307065)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Carmine Territorial Stain

tmf #1 orator in russia BREH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307068)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: 180 Bronze Native Keepsake Machete

Do you ever feel any of the following things about your career decision:

(1) You're paid enough to be comfortable, but not enough to really build any real wealth such that you can escape the rat race. Even counsels at lower tier biglaw are making 2X. Absent making GC somewhere, you can't get a ton of $.

(2) you don't really build or create anything whatsoever.

(3) You basically have no control over your existence. Some megacorp bureaucracy decides your future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307483)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

1) Yes, of course. That's the UMC trap. Btw, people making 2x as much look at those that make 2x as much as they do, etc.

2) Actually, no, I feel like I'm actually useful.

3) For sure and this is probably the worst thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307547)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen

Re: #2, he didn’t ask you if you were useful. He asked if you create or build anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307615)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

I'm in a more tech-oriented role, so I can safely say that I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307634)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Self-centered Hateful Parlor Boltzmann

did you, like ARE REPTILE, create an insurance product?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307649)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

lolno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307656)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part

Lol you are a data protection monkey. Fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308448)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: infuriating medicated hospital place of business

TMF: bashing my lifestyle in one thread

TMF: laments his own lifestyle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307633)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

I don't lament my lifestyle. I'm just a realist. I hate ridiculous tools that try to act like everything in their lives is perfect (RSF, for example). It never holds water. I know that I have it good but I also realize that there are areas that could be better. Those are some examples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307647)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308445)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: pungent feces

how often do you use external & how do you manage them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308729)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Periodically.

By sending them emails and scheduling calls? You basically use them as external contractors. The extent of management depends on the task. For some things you just get warm bodies that supplement your team, for others you just send to them and get work product back.

I will say that choosing them is probably the most interesting thing. Basically, you have a few go-to firms that you like for a variety of reasons, like that they helped you out without a fee on something and they have really strong knowledge of the subject area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309501)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Spectacular sandwich

what are your hours like? how often do you have stressful fire drills?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309130)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

Probably 50ish hours a week which can be as little as 40 or as much as 60. I tend to break that up and do a few hours over the weekend and do some work most evenings. But there's no commute most days so that helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309510)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:45 AM
Author: up-to-no-good zippy party of the first part

This sounds like shit for 200k in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36310496)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen

How do you sort your outlook? Do you have lots of sub folders? Do you file away emails as they come in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309513)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: Grizzly arousing volcanic crater

You know, when I started at my current job I was 100% committed to creating smart subfolders and filing everything. Like at a firm you always do this because otherwise keeping various matters organized is awful. Probably within 6 months this all fell apart and my inbox is largely unsorted. I did the same thing for my calendar (different color coding for different projects/types of meetings) and now it is all just red (stuff I really need to attend) and not red (stuff I don't).

We don't "file emails" (or at least I don't).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309530)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: Purple racy shrine liquid oxygen

What’s your ratio of red to not red on a typical day

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