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garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
How long have you been an inhousemo. Do you dream about goin...
Sooty Lascivious National Factory Reset Button
  06/25/18
I've been in-house in 2 places - a small business and a mega...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Then tell me why you stay. I'm working more and more for som...
Sooty Lascivious National Factory Reset Button
  06/25/18
1) I enjoy my work and my area 2) The WFH (see below) ...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Thanks for taking the time btw. I’m relatively junior for my...
Sooty Lascivious National Factory Reset Button
  06/25/18
Good luck. Look, do what you want. Once you have enough ex...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
what is your current salary? where will you top out?
Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag
  06/25/18
$200-$250k, depending on bonus, profit sharing, etc. If I...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
How old are you?
big-titted cerise casino
  06/25/18
Mid-30s.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Ylol
big-titted cerise casino
  06/25/18
?
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
37-38 is no longer mid-30s dude!
Dull persian
  06/25/18
Wait, no? Well fuck.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
...
Navy field
  06/25/18
how much of your identity is tied to being in-house counsel?
Talking doctorate
  06/25/18
Well ITT it is essential. But realistically, for people tha...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
110%
Glassy autistic principal's office scourge upon the earth
  06/25/18
Labels you NON-COMPLIANT
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
How do you deal with stress when a big deadline is approachi...
bat shit crazy pit place of business
  06/25/18
Power through it. Focus on the task at hand and try to get ...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
He cracks open a hard cider
Dull persian
  06/25/18
That is for when the task at hand is complete.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Have you ever used cocaine?
Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag
  06/25/18
Nope.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Y
Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag
  06/25/18
I've always avoided drugs.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
hmm
Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag
  06/25/18
No gut?
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Transactional?
angry avocado kitty
  06/25/18
Specialty area. I also represent a line of business (LOB). ...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
lob friend?
Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag
  06/25/18
what does the parlance "representing a line of business...
doobsian burgundy pocket flask corn cake
  06/25/18
Sounds like an insurance company.
bearded national security agency
  06/25/18
Nope.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Megacorps do this a lot. There are two kinds of lawyers in ...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Fascinating.
bat shit crazy pit place of business
  06/25/18
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Rambunctious shrine stain
  06/25/18
And let me tell you about weekly reports! They're just a ho...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
lmfao at this opaque job description
violent son of senegal
  06/25/18
do you consider yourself theological yes or no
low-t lime travel guidebook giraffe
  06/25/18
Aside from our aspie semantic argument in the other thread, ...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
cr friend
low-t lime travel guidebook giraffe
  06/25/18
If you're a lawyer, why are your debate/argumentation skills...
violent son of senegal
  06/25/18
tmf #1 orator in russia BREH
low-t lime travel guidebook giraffe
  06/25/18
Do you ever feel any of the following things about your care...
Fishy base electric furnace
  06/25/18
1) Yes, of course. That's the UMC trap. Btw, people making...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Re: #2, he didn’t ask you if you were useful. He asked if yo...
bat shit crazy pit place of business
  06/25/18
I'm in a more tech-oriented role, so I can safely say that I...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
did you, like ARE REPTILE, create an insurance product?
Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag
  06/25/18
lolno.
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
Lol you are a data protection monkey. Fuck off
big-titted cerise casino
  06/25/18
TMF: bashing my lifestyle in one thread TMF: laments his...
violent son of senegal
  06/25/18
I don't lament my lifestyle. I'm just a realist. I hate ri...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
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  06/25/18
how often do you use external & how do you manage them
twisted pozpig
  06/25/18
Periodically. By sending them emails and scheduling cal...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
what are your hours like? how often do you have stressful f...
adulterous legal warrant
  06/25/18
Probably 50ish hours a week which can be as little as 40 or ...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
This sounds like shit for 200k in NYC
big-titted cerise casino
  06/26/18
How do you sort your outlook? Do you have lots of sub folder...
bat shit crazy pit place of business
  06/25/18
You know, when I started at my current job I was 100% commit...
garnet address boiling water
  06/25/18
What’s your ratio of red to not red on a typical day
bat shit crazy pit place of business
  06/25/18


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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306152)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Sooty Lascivious National Factory Reset Button

How long have you been an inhousemo. Do you dream about going solo, or is it still worth it?

I'm using my current in-house gig for connections etc (it's a solid player in my industry) but grinding it out for GC is killing my soul a little bit. I want to go solo and be my own boss and all that. Is there hoap?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306195)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

I've been in-house in 2 places - a small business and a megacorp. Total, something like 7 years and some change.

I have never dreamed of going solo. In fact, I've never even understood why people desire this. But there are plenty of solos here on XO who are in a better position to answer your qs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306213)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Sooty Lascivious National Factory Reset Button

Then tell me why you stay. I'm working more and more for someone else and if I'm going to work this hard, I'd rather it be on my own accord than someone who sees me as a line item at the end of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306223)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

1) I enjoy my work and my area

2) The WFH (see below)

3) The stability. I used to work for a small business and the constant booms and busts are exhausting. I like knowing what my salary will be, that I can take vacation, that there's the potential for a promotion. Overall, it is a pretty good lifestyle. Yes, it does involve a lot of work but everything lucrative does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306254)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: Sooty Lascivious National Factory Reset Button

Thanks for taking the time btw. I’m relatively junior for my title, so I’m still sticking with it. 4 weeks vacation also. Things are beginning to go to shit with a new exec team, and hoping that a wfh arrangement could make it more palatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306377)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Good luck. Look, do what you want. Once you have enough experience, you can leave, try solo, and if you don't like it or it doesn't work out you can find a new in-house job assuming the economy cooperates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306460)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag

what is your current salary? where will you top out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306215)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

$200-$250k, depending on bonus, profit sharing, etc.

If I get the promotion I'm gunning for I'll be getting ~$300k and will probably just stay where I am at that point, assuming that happens.

Keep in mind, I work from home like 90% of the time. This is a huge draw for me. I also get over 4 weeks of vacation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306240)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: big-titted cerise casino

How old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306387)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Mid-30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306461)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: big-titted cerise casino

Ylol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306466)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306496)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Dull persian

37-38 is no longer mid-30s dude!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306538)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Wait, no? Well fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306549)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Navy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306674)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: Talking doctorate

how much of your identity is tied to being in-house counsel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306389)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Well ITT it is essential. But realistically, for people that work a lot their jobs are inevitably a large part of their identities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306465)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Glassy autistic principal's office scourge upon the earth

110%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306467)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Labels you NON-COMPLIANT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306500)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: bat shit crazy pit place of business

How do you deal with stress when a big deadline is approaching?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306606)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Power through it. Focus on the task at hand and try to get it done. Once it is done you feel better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306650)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: Dull persian

He cracks open a hard cider

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306652)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

That is for when the task at hand is complete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306657)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag

Have you ever used cocaine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306636)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306646)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag

Y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306673)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

I've always avoided drugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306779)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag

hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306780)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

No gut?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306783)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: angry avocado kitty

Transactional?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306666)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Specialty area. I also represent a line of business (LOB).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306682)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag

lob friend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306777)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: doobsian burgundy pocket flask corn cake

what does the parlance "representing a line of business" mean? never heard it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306899)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: bearded national security agency

Sounds like an insurance company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306906)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306925)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Megacorps do this a lot. There are two kinds of lawyers in large legal departments - specialists ("I do tax and I do it for everyone") and people that are lawyers for a specific part of the business and each part of the business is an LOB ("I represent the EMEA and LATAM parts of our Enterprise business"). LOB lawyers are the first line of contact for that part of the business, so if I get a labor law question for my portion of the business, I connect them with the labor lawyers. Now, most work in my LOB relates to my specialty area, so there's a reason why they did it this way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306943)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: bat shit crazy pit place of business

Fascinating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307057)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: big-titted cerise casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308442)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: Rambunctious shrine stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309517)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

And let me tell you about weekly reports! They're just a hoot and a holler!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309534)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: violent son of senegal

lmfao at this opaque job description

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307078)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: low-t lime travel guidebook giraffe

do you consider yourself theological yes or no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306948)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Aside from our aspie semantic argument in the other thread, it is a weird usage of the term. Just like a have a STEM grad degree but don't consider myself "scientific."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306962)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: low-t lime travel guidebook giraffe

cr friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36306980)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: violent son of senegal

If you're a lawyer, why are your debate/argumentation skills so poor and unrefined?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307065)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: low-t lime travel guidebook giraffe

tmf #1 orator in russia BREH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307068)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Fishy base electric furnace

Do you ever feel any of the following things about your career decision:

(1) You're paid enough to be comfortable, but not enough to really build any real wealth such that you can escape the rat race. Even counsels at lower tier biglaw are making 2X. Absent making GC somewhere, you can't get a ton of $.

(2) you don't really build or create anything whatsoever.

(3) You basically have no control over your existence. Some megacorp bureaucracy decides your future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307483)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

1) Yes, of course. That's the UMC trap. Btw, people making 2x as much look at those that make 2x as much as they do, etc.

2) Actually, no, I feel like I'm actually useful.

3) For sure and this is probably the worst thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307547)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: bat shit crazy pit place of business

Re: #2, he didn’t ask you if you were useful. He asked if you create or build anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307615)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

I'm in a more tech-oriented role, so I can safely say that I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307634)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Fuchsia Razzle-dazzle Nibblets Nowag

did you, like ARE REPTILE, create an insurance product?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307649)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

lolno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307656)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: big-titted cerise casino

Lol you are a data protection monkey. Fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308448)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: violent son of senegal

TMF: bashing my lifestyle in one thread

TMF: laments his own lifestyle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307633)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

I don't lament my lifestyle. I'm just a realist. I hate ridiculous tools that try to act like everything in their lives is perfect (RSF, for example). It never holds water. I know that I have it good but I also realize that there are areas that could be better. Those are some examples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36307647)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: big-titted cerise casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308445)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: twisted pozpig

how often do you use external & how do you manage them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36308729)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Periodically.

By sending them emails and scheduling calls? You basically use them as external contractors. The extent of management depends on the task. For some things you just get warm bodies that supplement your team, for others you just send to them and get work product back.

I will say that choosing them is probably the most interesting thing. Basically, you have a few go-to firms that you like for a variety of reasons, like that they helped you out without a fee on something and they have really strong knowledge of the subject area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309501)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: adulterous legal warrant

what are your hours like? how often do you have stressful fire drills?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309130)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

Probably 50ish hours a week which can be as little as 40 or as much as 60. I tend to break that up and do a few hours over the weekend and do some work most evenings. But there's no commute most days so that helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309510)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:45 AM
Author: big-titted cerise casino

This sounds like shit for 200k in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36310496)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: bat shit crazy pit place of business

How do you sort your outlook? Do you have lots of sub folders? Do you file away emails as they come in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309513)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: garnet address boiling water

You know, when I started at my current job I was 100% committed to creating smart subfolders and filing everything. Like at a firm you always do this because otherwise keeping various matters organized is awful. Probably within 6 months this all fell apart and my inbox is largely unsorted. I did the same thing for my calendar (different color coding for different projects/types of meetings) and now it is all just red (stuff I really need to attend) and not red (stuff I don't).

We don't "file emails" (or at least I don't).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309530)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: bat shit crazy pit place of business

What’s your ratio of red to not red on a typical day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009872&forum_id=2#36309682)