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I deposit 1MM into TDA. XO Trades it. (with proof)
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: red office XO finance mastermen only. Will post monthly returns if there's an interest. I retain CIO oversight. It's a margin account but will not be using margin. Let's have some fun.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:23 PM Author: Razzle sable native stain QID (ultra short). Hold 12 months. Profit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427356) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: red office this it's 2x levered? so decay will eat away at the return of the stock so you can't hold long unless i'm missing something?
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:09 PM Author: insane plaza hominid decay is a problem if you expect the market to chop more than trend.
if the daily return is trendy, then you can get more than 2x the inverse return. |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 8:27 PM Author: red office Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427715) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: 180 flesh sanctuary what does 'chop' and 'trend' mean in this context (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429662) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: insane plaza hominid how the price moves over your contemplated holding period.
if you buy an inverse levered fund and the price moves in the direction you're betting on fairly smoothly, you'll make a lot more money.
for example, if you bet on a daily 2x inverse fund and the underlying asset moves -2% each day for 5 consecutive days, the underlying returns -9.6%. lots of people expect that they'd make 2x in the opposite direction, or +19.2%. however, the actual return is +21.7%, which is more than 2x the inverse return.
now let's assume that the returns chop, so you have 3 days of -2% and 2 days of +2%. the unlevered asset returns -2.1%. the 2x daily inverse fund returns +3.67%, which is less than the +4.2% (-2.1%*-2) return you'd expect from naively applying a -2x multiple the the total period return.
when it comes to any levered fund that offers you a certain multiple of the daily return, as most of the levered etfs do, you have to be cognizant of how "choppy" the market might be versus how "trendy".
generally, markets chop more than trend so the leverage tends to work against you. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Nubile grizzly dilemma wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430780) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: red office cr. thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431045) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: umber people who are hurt As a leveraged ETF, QID experiences volatility drag and not decay. Pls learn the fundamentals here before opining cluelessly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430971) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: spectacular toilet seat partner One of the sources of vol drag is slippage (decay). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431157) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: thriller fanboi hell Can I be your boyfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427376) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:30 PM Author: Cheese-eating Degenerate Base owas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427405) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:31 PM Author: red office ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427410) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:35 PM Author: insane plaza hominid benchmark?
max loss %?
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:40 PM Author: red office pretty high pain tolerance tbh. fked up and picked up ge on my other account at what i thought was a bottom hoping they'd break it up. they're breaking it up and have seen 0.0.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:36 PM Author: Elite theatre voyeur Buy RSX and hope Trump and Vlad make world peace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427460) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:39 PM Author: insane plaza hominid since RSX's inception in 2007, it's down almost 29% on a total return basis; SPY is up 138%.
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Date: July 14th, 2018 7:41 PM Author: red office nothing russian or chinese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36427486) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:42 AM Author: Tan toaster meetinghouse Mortgage REIT - TWO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429643) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: umber people who are hurt Day trade SVXY and TVIX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429681) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 9:55 AM Author: 180 flesh sanctuary username checks out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36429685) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: red office Lol. Can't day trade, have a ft job bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430530) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: umber people who are hurt Let me do it for you then. 80/20 split on all profits, you cover all losses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430955) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: red office how are you doing on your own porfolio? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431722) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: umber people who are hurt Poorly this year due to ETF and options gambling during February's plunge. Have done decently well with ETFs otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431805) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: red office :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36436202) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: umber people who are hurt does this mean you will let me trade the 1M
I work from home and have ample time to day trade. This can be the start of the xo hedge fund |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: red office let's start picking stocks!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439111) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: umber people who are hurt Poast the account credentials and I値l start trading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440182) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Nudist Trailer Park Feces All on HMNY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430611) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Nubile grizzly dilemma wrinkle OP did you strike it rich on crypto, or what? Is this significant money for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430789) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: red office earned it the old fashion way unfortunately. meaningful enough amount. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431031) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Big electric furnace Oh, wow, this insider trading fact pattern is for sure making it to the Supreme Court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430793) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Nubile grizzly dilemma wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430925) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: racy lake abode Ethereum dumb ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430943) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: red office up 5k on eth!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431036) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: racy lake abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439244) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: thriller fanboi hell put it all in Amazon and sell right after earnings. guaranteed 10% profit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36430965) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: red office i have a decent holding of amzn and nflx on my other account. Up hugely on both and will ride it out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431020) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: jet library Leveraged mortgage REITs with 15% yields. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431282) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: red office Know what REITs are but haven't trade. Recs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431325) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: jet library MORL
Full disclaimer: I知 retarded so this may not be good advice. Keep in mind this is a 2x leveraged mortgage REIT.
Right now I知 just enjoying its 20% yield and reinvesting the dividends. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: red office decent. how long have you had it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431576) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: jet library Something like 5-6 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431585) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: red office cool cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431604) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: jet library https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-not-happy-about-federal-reserve-interest-rate-increases-1532020248?mod=hp_lead_pos1
Trump doing everything he can to stop interest rates from rising since he痴 a real estatemo and personally effected. That痴 a huge boon for mortgage REITs. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:53 PM Author: red office lol yeah i saw that. First trade on XO was ALKS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36462106) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: puce mexican double fault All of it in the kikes at RDHL for a few weeks or so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431297) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: puce mexican double fault https://seekingalpha.com/article/4174733-redhill-rdhl-analyst-investor-webcast-rhbminus-104-crohns-disease-slideshow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431376) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: red office this sounds like a terrible strategy bro, why do you hate me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431587) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: puce mexican double fault I will accept your thanks after they go up following positive phase 3 results. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431637) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: red office 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431697) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: thriller fanboi hell NVCR is about to double (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36431720) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:28 AM Author: red office Aren't they all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36435675) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Magical Corn Cake Indirect Expression You need to propose trades between two stocks and have XO vote and then create a shadow account. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36437804) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: red office let me have a think about this but i like the idea. problem i feel like will be that this board may be representative of the larger population in terms of actually knowing wtf is going on....and giving them one vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439121) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: insane plaza hominid small positions in
SPPI
CERS
GKOS
ALKS
BGNE
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: red office will have a look tonight. if they pass, will open small positions, say $20k, each. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439231) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: red office can you say more about these. all are biotech and bearish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440523) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: red office and what's the exit on alks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36440629) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:58 PM Author: Curious cobalt pocket flask buy some FAG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439239) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: red office already have F and A (and unfortunately N) already. Will stay off for now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36439284) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Curious cobalt pocket flask this is not really an "xo trades iwth it" thread then, just a shitty "taking investment advice"
WTF |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:58 PM Author: Bateful Crawly Legend Parlour BHP is about to sell 100% if it's oil and gas per rumors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026034&forum_id=2#36462143) |