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How is owning and renting out property any better than wagecucking

It’s still work, you have to maintain the properties and dea...
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
who wants to sit in a herman miller chair all day and talk w...
High-end ceo theater
  07/16/18
...
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
(guy who will never own his own home)
cracking address
  07/16/18
I stand to inherit one and will likely sell it immediately
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
"I stand to inherit one" jfc what a loser lol
concupiscible twisted theater stage
  07/16/18
lol he's going to sell it immediately cause he has to split ...
cracking address
  07/16/18
wtf
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
You seem upset
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
why would you do that land is the basis of all wealth ...
cracking address
  07/16/18
It’s not somewhere I’d want to live so I’m better off just t...
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
i'm done paying rent, going to live in a motorhome
cracking address
  07/16/18
(rich boi)
yapping confused ape piazza
  07/16/18
lol @ thinking the owner scrapes the shit You make a kill...
concupiscible twisted theater stage
  07/16/18
(guy with tenants' hep-c shit underneath his fingernails whi...
High-end ceo theater
  07/16/18
"slavery is fun, hehe"
concupiscible twisted theater stage
  07/16/18
(guy sweating in cramped crawlspace while i order seamless a...
High-end ceo theater
  07/16/18
No one wants to talk to bankers.
black wonderful indian lodge
  07/16/18
Wagecucking + rental property as passive income = 180!
Pea-brained International Law Enforcement Agency Church
  07/16/18
not passive income
cracking address
  07/16/18
...
passionate incel plaza
  07/16/18
i think landlord is overrated especially when compared to...
cracking address
  07/16/18
I'd way rather show up twice a month at my properties to fix...
startled insecure boltzmann
  07/16/18
tbf it's more like the toilet today, and next week it's the ...
High-end ceo theater
  07/16/18
fuck dc throw his shit out in the snow if rent isnt timely d...
laughsome brethren
  07/16/18
lol not even close my ex-gf inherited a bunch of overvalu...
cracking address
  07/16/18
Sounds fun actually
Pea-brained International Law Enforcement Agency Church
  07/16/18
accurate
marvelous native famous landscape painting
  07/16/18
Buy ethereum, hold for 10 months, cash out and retire
yapping confused ape piazza
  07/16/18
I have ETH and shitcoins, not much faith in it though
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
Eth will gain 80-90% by year end
yapping confused ape piazza
  07/16/18
Buy single-family homes and rent out to young couples or pro...
mahogany range stain
  07/16/18
And then you rent BACK the front yard at cost and park 50 ca...
maize space
  07/16/18
Uhh youre not commuting to some shitoffice where you sit on ...
maroon hairy legs station
  07/16/18
You don't work that's the point. You slumlord and get renter...
maize space
  07/16/18
...
razzle-dazzle shimmering potus property
  07/16/18
Dat Schedule D ftw?
Curious State
  07/16/18
If you don't underwrite such that you're including a margin ...
Soul-stirring well-lubricated meetinghouse
  07/16/18
Very few properties make sense with this built in it is very...
maize space
  07/16/18
I haven't bought any that don't cash flow at least a little ...
Soul-stirring well-lubricated meetinghouse
  07/16/18
Had 3 rental properties, now down to two, one is overseas. ...
tripping sneaky criminal
  07/16/18
Just do buy Bay Area properties, thank
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
Pretty easy to do if you lay off the avocado toast. http:...
tripping sneaky criminal
  07/16/18
(cue Steely Dan intro)
umber stirring toilet seat
  07/16/18
It does make me feel a bit like a boomer, perhaps because ti...
tripping sneaky criminal
  07/16/18
(rich boi)
yapping confused ape piazza
  07/16/18
Moved out at 18 and never took a dime from my parents after ...
tripping sneaky criminal
  07/16/18
When did you buy the properties? The math never quite works ...
avocado free-loading corner skinny woman
  07/16/18
...
Nudist azn
  07/16/18


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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

It’s still work, you have to maintain the properties and deal with the tenants. Sure you’re somewhat independent but it’s still the worst kind of drudgery. lol at anyone who has this as some kind of goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436762)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: High-end ceo theater

who wants to sit in a herman miller chair all day and talk with bankers when you could be scooping out shit some prole left in your toilet? #selfemployed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436775)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436800)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: cracking address

(guy who will never own his own home)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436816)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

I stand to inherit one and will likely sell it immediately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436831)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: concupiscible twisted theater stage

"I stand to inherit one" jfc what a loser lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436877)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: cracking address

lol he's going to sell it immediately cause he has to split it with his brother

unless his dad disinherited his brother

people need to quit sharing their info on here it's all going into my spreadsheet

you should see the file I have on board Indians

I almost have Spaceporn identified

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436899)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436932)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

You seem upset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436902)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: cracking address

why would you do that

land is the basis of all wealth

that's why they call it 'real' estate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436885)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

It’s not somewhere I’d want to live so I’m better off just taking the money. Would never even consider renting it out and dealing with all the tedium that involves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436918)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: cracking address

i'm done paying rent, going to live in a motorhome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436926)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: yapping confused ape piazza

(rich boi)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436897)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: concupiscible twisted theater stage

lol @ thinking the owner scrapes the shit

You make a killing renting and pay plumbers, maintenance and property managers to deal with shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436881)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: High-end ceo theater

(guy with tenants' hep-c shit underneath his fingernails while i sip free coconut water and type on my ergonomic keyboard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436930)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: concupiscible twisted theater stage

"slavery is fun, hehe"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437002)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: High-end ceo theater

(guy sweating in cramped crawlspace while i order seamless and check up on the day's business news on my FIRM-PROVIDED smartphone)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437061)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: black wonderful indian lodge

No one wants to talk to bankers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36438873)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: Pea-brained International Law Enforcement Agency Church

Wagecucking + rental property as passive income = 180!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436795)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: cracking address

not passive income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436803)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: passionate incel plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436813)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: cracking address

i think landlord is overrated

especially when compared to easier paths to self employment

but being self employed is not about working less. however now with overpopulation wagecucks work just as much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436799)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: startled insecure boltzmann

I'd way rather show up twice a month at my properties to fix a toilet (or better yet, just send out a handyman to do service work) and go fishing the rest of the month every day.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436812)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: High-end ceo theater

tbf it's more like the toilet today, and next week it's the hvac (but for some reason when you show up there's a whole in the damn wall), and also by the way grayson has to go to washington d.c. with his class next month so rent will be late, and on and on and on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436863)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: laughsome brethren

fuck dc throw his shit out in the snow if rent isnt timely direct deposited in your account.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436916)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: cracking address

lol not even close

my ex-gf inherited a bunch of overvalued NY real estate

issues she deals with

1.) renters keep calling the city to make repairs, city bills outrageous rate, she finds out about it from the tax lien, now she will evict them (they will not pay rent or leave in the next year if they play their cards right)

2.) about 10% of renters need to be harangued for their check every month

3.) renter of a commercial property was putting illegal immigrants or something in a storage space above the building that didn't have a kitchen/bathroom/etc.

basically your tenants are always trying to fuck you, if you have enough you can make real money you have a few that do nothing but fuck with you. about 80% pay on time and don't cause problems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436867)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Pea-brained International Law Enforcement Agency Church

Sounds fun actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436943)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: marvelous native famous landscape painting

accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437078)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: yapping confused ape piazza

Buy ethereum, hold for 10 months, cash out and retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436905)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

I have ETH and shitcoins, not much faith in it though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436922)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: yapping confused ape piazza

Eth will gain 80-90% by year end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437014)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: mahogany range stain

Buy single-family homes and rent out to young couples or professionals who will want to live in the same house for at least 2-3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36436935)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: maize space

And then you rent BACK the front yard at cost and park 50 cars in it with valet during football gameday at $100 per car and make $30,000+ every fall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437116)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: maroon hairy legs station

Uhh youre not commuting to some shitoffice where you sit on display in a glass box for faggots to gawk at you while they walk by?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437022)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: maize space

You don't work that's the point. You slumlord and get renters stuck in the property. They put down months of security deposit and don't know what nice things are. House gets no upkeep, ever. Doll it up every 2 years using security deposit proceeds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437044)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle shimmering potus property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437137)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Curious State

Dat Schedule D ftw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437063)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: Soul-stirring well-lubricated meetinghouse

If you don't underwrite such that you're including a margin for management, you're doing it wrong.

Whether you choose to self-manage or not, you shouldn't have a property in your portfolio that wouldn't still cashflow even after paying a manager, typically 10% of gross rent.

Day-to-day management of a property is typically much, much less work than a "real job". Yes, it's work to rehab and get in shape to rent (if you've been smart and bought a fixer-upper) but that should only have to be done once, or in any event very, very rarely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437096)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: maize space

Very few properties make sense with this built in it is very hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437134)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Soul-stirring well-lubricated meetinghouse

I haven't bought any that don't cash flow at least a little with management fees included. (I own three rentals and self-manage only the one that is nearest to me geographically.)

Yeah, it takes sifting through a lot of deals that don't work to find one that does, but on the other hand, how many houses do you buy in a year anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36438864)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: tripping sneaky criminal

Had 3 rental properties, now down to two, one is overseas.

Overseas property is rented to a German company, prepays the entire lease upfront, tenants are high level execs who don't trash the place. They just re-upped.

The other two are / were in the Bay Area, one a SFH the other a townhome. The SFH we still have is rented out to a mixed/AA couple who pay rent on time, take care of the place, and never caused issue. The other before it was sold was rented out to a Merc-dealership mechanic / nurse wife (HHI just under $300k) who literally left the place better than when we rented it to them (he cleaned and repainted walls himself).

They key is renting properties that are going to be on the higher end of the spectrum + screen your tenants. For our US properties, we just hold a Saturday open house where we see all the possible applicants in person, can talk to them, and observe how they act. No doubt XO racists would have ding'd the AA applicant couple but they were 1. The first to arrive in the morning of the open house 2. came prepared with the application filled out entirely 3. did a solid handshake and eye contact, which still means something 4. weren't the richest but weren't the poorest either, very likely residents who would make this their permanent home versus leaving in a year or two. The other couple was a no-brainer, mechanic (so you know he will DIY repairs) whose dealership was a 5 minute drive from the property and whose wife also worked within 10 minutes; again, solid couple that likely won't move (and didn't for over 4 years until they bought a place w/ a 1hr commute).

What this means for our upcoming retirement is that post-IPO I can take $1.1 mil of the proceeds and pay off all our mortgages. With our two Bay Area properties we could rent them out and after taxes and insurance are paid collect $90k/year of income. If we move to a lower COL area and buy a nice home outright ($500k-$1mm) then we wake up January first of each year w/ no montage, no car payments, and $90k to live on as a base that naturally adjusts to inflation and an underlying asset that appreciates conservatively 3-5% a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437287)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

Just do buy Bay Area properties, thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437308)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: tripping sneaky criminal

Pretty easy to do if you lay off the avocado toast.

http://time.com/money/4778942/avocados-millennials-home-buying/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437320)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: umber stirring toilet seat

(cue Steely Dan intro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437336)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: tripping sneaky criminal

It does make me feel a bit like a boomer, perhaps because timing wise I'll be retiring around the same time most of them.

Also, bootstraps!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437386)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: yapping confused ape piazza

(rich boi)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437323)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: tripping sneaky criminal

Moved out at 18 and never took a dime from my parents after that, not even for school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437335)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: avocado free-loading corner skinny woman

When did you buy the properties? The math never quite works out for me. Would you recommend buying even in today's environment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36441003)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Nudist azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027241&forum_id=2#36437642)