“It’s not just money that a job provides,” Obama said in his Nelson Mandela Lecture in Johannesburg on Tuesday, after mentioning the threat new technology poses to jobs. “It provides dignity and structure and a sense of place and a sense of purpose. So we’re going to have to consider new ways of thinking about these problems, like a universal income, review of our workweek, how we retrain our young people, how we make everybody an entrepreneur at some level.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451960)

People aren't doing Uber/AirBnB because it's FUN AND EXCITING, they're doing it b/c they need more money than their shitjobs are willing to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452476)

Can't click ads when you're at work and Facebook is blocked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451999)

Actually it removes all of these Barry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452355)

not to mention all the people that are employed in the handout industry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455161)

No additional govt support. Here's your check, don't spend it all on meth.

If you get a job then this will be supplemental income, but at the very least you will not starve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452483)

That's a totally rational and HINGED belief to have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452536)

fucking shitlibs and their euphemisms.

ubi is welfare. it will fix few, if any, problems. it will cause new problems.

it 100% will cause greater problems than it solves because its only guaranteed result will be to disincentivize capitalism and all of its tried and true benefits for those who otherwise would be inclined to be more self-sufficient

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452602)

why in the flying fuck should you specifically get ubi?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452802)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452643)

quit being a simple fuck and think this through. it can't work long term because it's socialism and it's not based on an endless supply of natural resources, but others' work.

it will cause inflation, it will cause resentment, it will cause..etc etc etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452872)

If I'm on UBI, I would get on xoxo, high as shit, talk about all the nasty fat bitches I was fucking, and every other line would be "U: POST." I'd do this until BS and I nod off together from the opioids, because hey, if I'm not working, I've got the time to go meet up with that minx.

Also, yes, my Wife would not like this at all, but with UBI, and my not working, fuck it, what do I have to lose. Gone are the old days where I would get alimony fucked, etc. She'd just have to deal, which again, for her, wouldn't be that big of deal because she's got UBI.

Basically, there's no real incentive to be a responsible human being at all, because fuck it, UBI. It's taken care of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454077)

What do you do with the lazy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454182)

You could quit your job now and get on unemployment benefits. Its incredibly easy to do that which you probably know.

On unemployment, you could stop paying your health insurance premiums and get your family on medicaid right now.

You could get your family on food stamps right now, but you don't.

You could get a section 8 voucher and stop paying your mortgage.

You could go shoot up now and get that high but you don't.

All of this money already exists for you - UBI is just structuring it differently to incentivize better behavior.

Under UBI, you wouldn't have tons of illegitimate children because child support would be taken directly from your UBI, which means less money for you and which you want to avoid. You will wrap it up.

UBI would also be something meager like $1k a month. Something that allows you to live, but not well. You would get a job if you had an ounce of ambition to get to the middle class, but you would be struggling, you would never take a vacation, and life would be tough. But if you stay together with your wife, that is now $24k per year. And if you and your wife get even minimum wage jobs, that is $60-65k per year for your family, now we're talking. But with the current welfare programs, it makes more sense to not even work at all than to work a minimum wage job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456975)

it gets ordered and just because you might be able to get it lowered if you aren't working, you'll still owe it. and it will never go away. it will keep coming. it will keep earning interest. it's like student loans on steroids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452834)

lol there is a less than 0% chance anyone with an actual job would see a dime of this. if anything the govt would raise taxes on people with like $55K HHI just to be able to give this to the unemployeds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454129)

If you want MORE (bigger house, nicer car, better clothes, higher quality of hookers) you'll need to go out a get a job.

You can either eat this porridge for free, or you can get a job and can enjoy steak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454193)

so, you'd agree that one couldn't be ordered to pay child support out of it?

you'd agree that it would have to be changed to keep up with inflation.

do you agree that it will necessarily cause inflation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454759)

A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.

DEMS just need to play the long game with Whitey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452533)

they could just fix the current welfare structure if it's so bad. this is just shits like obama wanting to remove the term welfare the same way they do with illegal immigrants and global warming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36457975)