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Adderall makes you stupid. It's official.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650 I knew it! I always r...
Autistic office
  07/21/18
then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unass...
Aqua Rigor
  07/21/18
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Green center
  07/21/18
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comical sanctuary
  07/21/18
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comical sanctuary
  07/21/18
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Boyish Outnumbered Gas Station
  07/22/18
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zippy vivacious state
  07/22/18
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cerebral self-centered meetinghouse
  07/23/18
13 people is a shit study
bearded lascivious lodge
  07/21/18
Do better, bro.
Autistic office
  07/21/18
To the contrary. If they were getting statistically signifi...
slimy pale resort
  07/21/18
That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit ...
bearded lascivious lodge
  07/21/18
it *is* contrary to what you said. do you know what type ...
slimy pale resort
  07/21/18
Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall o...
bearded lascivious lodge
  07/21/18
if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the ...
slimy pale resort
  07/21/18
This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on...
Balding Area
  07/21/18
Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower...
slimy pale resort
  07/21/18
Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it ...
Canary Idea He Suggested
  07/21/18
While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours re...
Autistic office
  07/21/18
lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals
impressive wonderful goal in life
  07/21/18
HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.
Autistic office
  07/21/18
stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doe...
spruce stage azn
  07/21/18
Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplis...
Autistic office
  07/21/18
;-)
slimy pale resort
  07/21/18
To be fair, A real mystery why your people have continual...
heady house kitty cat
  07/21/18
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black stage
  07/21/18
No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memor...
Green center
  07/21/18
Yes
Impertinent Idiot Heaven
  07/21/18
cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assu...
spruce stage azn
  07/21/18
I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notabl...
hyperactive theater stage cumskin
  07/21/18
you're a fucking mess
spruce stage azn
  07/21/18
yeah ok pumo
hyperactive theater stage cumskin
  07/21/18
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pearl deranged famous landscape painting
  07/21/18
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fantasy-prone site
  07/21/18
but it tastes like candy !
Chestnut digit ratio
  07/21/18
"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people di...
Useless misanthropic roast beef quadroon
  07/21/18
the only statistically significant finding (other than that ...
flatulent base
  07/21/18
30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!
spectacular doctorate
  07/21/18
This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific di...
Marvelous Den
  07/21/18
He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so...
nofapping public bath partner
  07/21/18
Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes add...
translucent titillating fat ankles
  07/21/18
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hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma
  07/21/18
Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamin...
Excitant jap
  07/21/18
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hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma
  07/21/18
There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are...
Excitant jap
  07/21/18
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hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma
  07/21/18
You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To...
Excitant jap
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out freak)
fantasy-prone site
  07/21/18
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hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma
  07/21/18
I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of...
Excitant jap
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)
haunting elite ratface
  07/21/18
What good is intelligence without concentration, particularl...
maize arousing halford yarmulke
  07/21/18
That's my problem
Frisky Big Gay Wizard Spot
  07/21/18
what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regul...
godawful unholy national gunner
  07/21/18
I wish I had taken this in lol school
Frisky Big Gay Wizard Spot
  07/21/18
A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two...
Contagious Twinkling Codepig Background Story
  07/21/18
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Balding Area
  07/21/18
(fagg0t)
bateful useless brakes school
  07/22/18
? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a ...
cerebral self-centered meetinghouse
  07/22/18
(fagg0t)
smoky pisswyrm
  07/22/18
hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot"...
cerebral self-centered meetinghouse
  07/22/18
both of you are niggers please shut up
Lemon shrine
  07/22/18
kill yourself kike
naked home
  07/22/18
wow you sound so white
Lemon shrine
  07/22/18
?
cerebral self-centered meetinghouse
  07/23/18


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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: Autistic office

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650

I knew it! I always refused to take this Yankee shit. I just knew it was designed to make you GCs slave and nothing else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470188)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Aqua Rigor

then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unassisted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470237)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: Green center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470329)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:43 AM
Author: comical sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470585)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: comical sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471102)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:52 AM
Author: Boyish Outnumbered Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: zippy vivacious state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474084)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 6:59 AM
Author: cerebral self-centered meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: bearded lascivious lodge

13 people is a shit study

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470238)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Autistic office

Do better, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470242)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: slimy pale resort

To the contrary. If they were getting statistically significant results in a study with only 13 people, that means the effect size is huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470273)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: bearded lascivious lodge

That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit is table 1 and 3:

"The study had high power to detect large effects, and lower power to detect moderate to small effects. As such the likelihood of Type II error is greater for small to medium effects. Findings with small to medium effect sizes (identified in Table 1 and Table 3) will require larger sample sizes in future work."

And they were only testing these people with either 30mg of adderall or a placebo, which is an absurd dose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470536)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: slimy pale resort

it *is* contrary to what you said.

do you know what type II error is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470617)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: bearded lascivious lodge

Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470635)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: slimy pale resort

if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the authors were trying to detect, i'm not sure it was a "shit study" in any relevant way.

recruiting human subjects for medical research is expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470670)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Balding Area

This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on an underpowered study finding a statistically significant effect, that effect estimate is likely too large or in the wrong direction.

See Gelman and Carlin, “retrospective power analysis” paper. Use google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472025)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: slimy pale resort

Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower-variance estimate of the true effect size

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472114)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: Canary Idea He Suggested

Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it improves attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470251)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Autistic office

While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours retaining nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470257)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: impressive wonderful goal in life

lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470264)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Autistic office

HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470266)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: spruce stage azn

stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doesn't make you sound cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Autistic office

Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplished. :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470441)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: slimy pale resort

;-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470447)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: heady house kitty cat

To be fair,

A real mystery why your people have continually been expelled and/or genocided everywhere they go for centuries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470664)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: black stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470734)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: Green center

No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memory while you're on it. The tradeoff in increased focus is worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470333)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Impertinent Idiot Heaven

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470363)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: spruce stage azn

cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assuming you've already resigned yourself to being GC's bitch, which you have if you take addy in the first place - is a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470715)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: hyperactive theater stage cumskin

I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notable effect was the amphetamine/anti-depressant/not hungry/can't sleep feeling. It's good if you want to get drunk and then study after if that's your thing.

Memory is #1 when studying ffs... the increased attention will not stop the bro from checking his phone, or xoxo, or youtube, or whatever. The increased attention aspect only comes, imho, from the anti-depressant quality. It causes the depression/ignominy inherent to studying to be repressed. But it does not make a bro smarter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470389)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: spruce stage azn

you're a fucking mess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470406)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: hyperactive theater stage cumskin

yeah ok pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470646)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: pearl deranged famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470667)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: fantasy-prone site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472021)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Chestnut digit ratio

but it tastes like candy !

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470557)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Useless misanthropic roast beef quadroon

"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people diagnosed with ADHD, it can help pull things into focus, but for everyone else, it’s not doing any favors, short of a quick shot of energy to the central nervous system. And let’s be real — we already have coffee for that."

This is fucking retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470947)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: flatulent base

the only statistically significant finding (other than that the gakked-out students said they felt high) in this n=13 study was "Adderall worsened working memory on Digit Span Forward, t(12) = -1.80, p = 0.048"

p = 0.048

o what a definitive finding!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470967)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: spectacular doctorate

30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471181)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Marvelous Den

This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific display of how stupid ARE Reptile is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471036)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: nofapping public bath partner

He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471497)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: translucent titillating fat ankles

Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes addy, then she gets those bloodshot eyes and dies a ton of work without stopping, then she looks for more work to don. It's pretty obvious when she is on it because one can get a feel for anothers's Vaseline capabilities after they gave worked together long enough. And what makes this study interesting to me us that, I have observed her shirt term memory failing to recall recently passed along inforamation quite a few times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471361)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471390)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Excitant jap

Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamines are but adderall is not, there is no real evidence of it being neurotoxic. It can cause certain issues with dopamine receptors in the brain given prolonged use, but the effect is temporary and wears off (sometimes this can take months though.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471417)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471472)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: Excitant jap

There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are likely talking about the dopamine issue but that is not an example of neurotoxicity because it does not create long term brain damage or mental problems. What does happen is that your body gets used to having its dopamine regulation system out of wack so it is not producing regular amounts of it without adderall. That is the source of both adderall tolerance and the tiredness/withdrawal effects once you stop taking it. Over time those problems in the brain fix themselves because your body's systems begin to get used to normality again .

Meth is not adderall, that is not how chemistry works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471488)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471594)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Excitant jap

You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To recreate neurotoxicity with adderall you would have to exceed the maximum therapeutic dose by many orders of magnitude

"one of the salts"

yeah exactly retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471618)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: fantasy-prone site

(MAF gakked out freak)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471633)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: hairraiser brilliant friendly grandma dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471644)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Excitant jap

I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of adderall using studies done on specific forms of amphetamine because it is explicitly designed based on the mix you use of those salts. The max therapeutic dose of adderall cannot under any circumstances reach a neurotoxic mix of them. Does that help you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471659)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: haunting elite ratface

(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471665)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: maize arousing halford yarmulke

What good is intelligence without concentration, particularly in typical school and work settings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471542)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Frisky Big Gay Wizard Spot

That's my problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471637)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: godawful unholy national gunner

what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regular addy use (20-30mg/day, let's say) compound the effects of a 3-5 drinks/day habit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471605)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Frisky Big Gay Wizard Spot

I wish I had taken this in lol school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471679)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Contagious Twinkling Codepig Background Story

A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two female social scientists, with an incredibly dubious design in the first group and a sample size of 13 in the second group - finds the adderall doesn't make you smarter should be the headline here.

I'm fully open to the idea that long-term effects of addies tears holes in our brains, whatever, but it has to be better evidence than this. If you read the paper it's not nearly as detrimental as you seem to think - if anything believing the results here affirms that adderall should be taken on occasion to improve performance on time-sensitive testing / projects etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471706)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Balding Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: bateful useless brakes school

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36473954)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: cerebral self-centered meetinghouse

? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a virgin queer who jerks off to Harry Potter, why did you select it??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474080)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: smoky pisswyrm

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474115)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: cerebral self-centered meetinghouse

hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot" is so edgy and cool hehe the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474150)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Lemon shrine

both of you are niggers please shut up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474196)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: naked home

kill yourself kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474208)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Lemon shrine

wow you sound so white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474223)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM
Author: cerebral self-centered meetinghouse

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479416)