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if Trump pardons Manafort Trump's standing in polls won't change even 1%
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: galvanic fighting kitchen ljl @ libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635390) |
Date: August 17th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: vermilion laughsome nibblets Not “if,” when. Only if necessary of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635395) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: galvanic fighting kitchen may not be necessary given how the jury is responding. but i still think the jury will convict on at least some of the charges -- hope im wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635408) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: Lascivious brindle public bath telephone I don't think Trump pardons him. Manafort has nothing on Trump so there's no reason to.
At least, I would have thought that months ago when it seemed he left manafort to twist in the wind. The last few days make it seem more likely |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: galvanic fighting kitchen trump would pardon manafort because manafort was only charged due to his association with trump in the first place. this would be a signal to others thinking of serving with trump that he will support them if they are wrongfully charged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635439) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: vermilion laughsome nibblets The reason Trump will pardon Manafort (only if convicted) is the same reason he will pardon anyone else who gets convicted: principles.
Anyone who is intellectually honest and has a brain knows that this whole circus is just a political witch hunt. Ask yourself: would these charges have been brought against Manafort had he never been involved with the Trump campaign? The answer is unquestionably: NO!
So Flynn, Manafort, and anyone else who gets caught up in this disgraceful banana republic escapade can rest easy knowing that they will receive their pardon. And, as OP points out, Trump’s support correctly will not fall one iota. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: Lascivious brindle public bath telephone I thin Flynn is far more likely to receive a pardonnthan Manafort.
I get the idea that anyone wrapped up by Mueller was treated unfairly, but Manaforts crimes (if he's found guilty) were far more pervasive and predated the campaign by years. It makes sense to treat him differently.
But like JJC at his parents dry cleaning business, we'll have to see what unfolds. Frankly I'm surprised Flynn hasn't been pardoned yet. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: vermilion laughsome nibblets Flynn only hasn’t been pardoned because his sentencing has continually been delayed.
Once he is sentenced, I’d expect a pardon to follow in short order. Although, at this point, it would likely occur after the midterms.
And what you said about Manafort isn’t responsive enough to what I said. It doesn’t matter that his conduct predated the campaign. The ONLY reason he was charged is because he worked for Trump. Nothing else matters, that tremendously pisses Trump off, and it is why I 100% guarantee he will pardon Manafort if necessary. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: Lascivious brindle public bath telephone It's not non responsive, you just disagree with the logic. No need to be hostile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635561) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: vermilion laughsome nibblets I tried not to be and edited it before. You are approaching this fairly for a lib, so don’t deserve any hostility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635569) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:10 PM Author: Lascivious brindle public bath telephone fair enough my friend. glad to see we can find common ground. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635578) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:37 PM Author: Comical tattoo U two get a room already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36636543) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: brass office You have no idea what Manafort has on Trump, so not useful to speculate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635482) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:01 PM Author: Excitant Sanctuary He knew him for like 3 months and got fired (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635501) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: brass office They’ve actually known each other for decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635516) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: Excitant Sanctuary I don't think so. Feel free to link. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635524) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: brass office Trump was literally his first client
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/10/a_timeline_of_paul_manafort_s_relationship_with_the_trump_world.html |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:12 PM Author: Excitant Sanctuary Lol did you even read the article? It's like the Kevin Bacon game. Try again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635584) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 9:10 AM Author: brass office Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36637915) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 4:02 AM Author: Trip tank "The depth of their relationship pre-2016 isn’t well-known, but it’s clear Trump and Manafort have been operating in close circles for decades."
LJL at this disingenuous shitlib pumo. You can't believe a word these fuckers say. |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 4:09 AM Author: Shaky bat shit crazy nursing home giraffe that pumo is WLMAS fyi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36637526) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: Lascivious brindle public bath telephone I agree it's pure speculation, but so is it pure speculation that he has something damning on him.
At this point, it's becoming more and more unlikely that there was ever any type of sustained collusion between Trump and Russia. I may not like him as a president, but I agree that the investigation needs to wrap up ASAP. It's time to move on |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: brass office It’s not pure speculation that Trump Inc got literally hundreds of millions of dollars from Russian banks in the five years before he ran for president. That comes from Eric Trump himself. The terms of those transactions are not publicly known, because Trumps company is privately held and doesn’t have to file 10-Ks. But the investigation does need to determine whether those financial entanglements are compromising, and whether Trumps efforts to kill sanctions were attributable to pressure. It’s interesting that shortly after winning, Kushner and Flynn met (and failed to disclose that they met) the FSB agent who runs Russias sovereign wealth fund. It’s interesting that after that Dec 2016 meeting, Flynn called the Russian ambassador to ask whether Russia could supply an NSA-proof SCIF to conduct future talks with that Vnesheconombank CEO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635611) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:21 PM Author: Lascivious brindle public bath telephone never change WLMAS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635639) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: Comical tattoo Lmfao at all these lame talking points you’ve inhaled from shitsites like the nation and tpm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36636546) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 4:07 AM Author: Nubile cruise ship Yeah seems like a foregone conclusion to anyone paying close enough attention these days. All the talk is about "obstruction of justice" as are all the signals from the SC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36637522) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: talented indirect expression agreed but if he keeps revoking security clearances just to be a vindictive asshole it will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635550) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal spot Yes John q public clearly deeply agonizing over serial liar and political hack Brennan having his security clearance revoked. Good read of the public mind Mr. Mook. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635612) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:17 PM Author: galvanic fighting kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635621) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:19 PM Author: Very Tactful Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635629) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: pale stimulating plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635806) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 4:04 AM Author: Trip tank fatality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36637521) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 4:46 AM Author: Sienna Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36637546) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: vermilion laughsome nibblets Why should the president not strip from a CIA director who calls him a traitor the honor and privilege of a security clearance? Or is a top-secret clearance an entitlement like Social Security?
CIA directors retain clearances because they are seen as national assets, individuals whose unique experience, knowledge and judgment may be called upon to assist a president in a national crisis.
Not so long ago, this was a bipartisan tradition.
Who trashed this tradition?
Was it not the former heads of the security agencies — CIA, FBI, director of national intelligence — who have been leveling the kind of savage attacks on the chief of state one might expect from antifa?
http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/can-america-ever-come-together-again/ |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:39 PM Author: Comical tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36636548) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 4:48 AM Author: Sienna Hell XO Pat right again.
I’m glad he lived to see Trump. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: balding nudist voyeur Manafort will rot in prison where he belongs. Dinesh did nothing wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635767) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:44 PM Author: pale stimulating plaza They'd go up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36635774) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Comical tattoo Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36636540) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: Electric Corner Affirmative Action Seriously, he’s at 40%. He’ll never be above 44-45 or so, but that 40 is ride or die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36636545) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 10:28 AM Author: shimmering arousing principal's office He's literally at 46% now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054401&forum_id=2#36638069) |