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Former LSAT instructors, rate how difficult this problem would be for students

From 1 to 5, 5 being the toughest. Legal theorist: Only t...
Umber Boltzmann Place Of Business
  08/21/18
answer is E difficulty is 1 i'm not a former lsat inst...
obsidian irate church building ape
  08/21/18
never took the LSAT here answer is E and I got it in like 3...
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
E
bateful set mediation
  08/21/18
A-D are garbage answer choices which makes it easy
overrated church idiot
  08/21/18
yeah this before I got to E, I was thinking "damn if t...
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
I was thinking hmmm . . .some of these could be "true&q...
Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle
  08/21/18
(Guy who gets it)
Amber Razzmatazz Menage Death Wish
  08/21/18
question is a 3 for most students, who will be thrown off by...
bespoke dilemma digit ratio
  08/21/18
damn if this was easier for me than like HS Algebra, should ...
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
the vast majority of my students were tards so 4 or 5
sable faggot firefighter school
  08/21/18
what does the average "tard" score?
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
148-154
sable faggot firefighter school
  08/21/18
you really don’t know the median LSAT score? hint: it’...
coiffed water buffalo hospital
  08/21/18
was mostly clarifying if that poaster meant "tards"...
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
I settled on B before I got to E. I then saw a chorus of xo ...
green vengeful coldplay fan
  08/21/18
One of the easier LR questions you'll see.
dashing indigo chapel shitlib
  08/21/18
D might throw off some retards who don’t understand the diff...
coiffed water buffalo hospital
  08/21/18
OK LSAT mastermen, what about this one? How difficult would ...
Umber Boltzmann Place Of Business
  08/21/18
idk, C?
green vengeful coldplay fan
  08/21/18
C, 2 Edit actually it's E
Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle
  08/21/18
E, again okay maybe C, this one was tougher
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
Look at the premises and the conclusion, E is what fills in ...
Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle
  08/21/18
okay cool, I was right the first time you bros had me secon...
Charismatic frum hell
  08/21/18
The differentiator is actually context vs manner. The premis...
Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle
  08/21/18
...
Fuchsia Toaster
  08/22/18
Yeah, C is too strong and is not "necessary."
green vengeful coldplay fan
  08/21/18
No it is not C...focus on "nearly always incompatible&q...
coiffed water buffalo hospital
  08/21/18
E bc "unlikely of high quality" vs. "might be...
Canary Exhilarant Bawdyhouse Puppy
  08/21/18
E E is better than c bc it restricts it to psychotherapis...
bull headed brilliant brunch
  08/21/18
Yeah C is too strong. Common sense would tell you there's al...
coiffed water buffalo hospital
  08/21/18
even without reading the question, 5. students cannot wrap ...
bespoke dilemma digit ratio
  08/21/18
E, probably 3-4 in difficulty. C could mislead you. T...
coiffed water buffalo hospital
  08/21/18
this was easier than the first one
Bipolar area ladyboy
  08/21/18
E, almost always bad = unlikely to be good
Contagious ebony patrolman
  08/22/18
(Xo 2018)
sick confused hall
  08/21/18
...
Umber Boltzmann Place Of Business
  08/21/18
Difficulty 1, answer E.
cracking arrogant center friendly grandma
  08/21/18
Explain
dead cuckold indian lodge
  08/21/18


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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Umber Boltzmann Place Of Business

From 1 to 5, 5 being the toughest.

Legal theorist: Only two types of theories of criminal sentencing can be acceptable—retributivist theories, which hold that the purpose of sentences is simply to punish, and rehabilitationist theories, which hold that a sentence is a means to reform the offender. A retributivist theory is not acceptable unless it conforms to the principle that the harshness of a punishment should be proportional to the seriousness of the offense. Retributivist theories that hold that criminals should receive longer sentences for repeat offenses than for an initial offense violate this principle, since repeat offenses may be no more serious than the initial offense.

Which one of the following can be properly inferred from the legal theorist’s statements?

(A) No rehabilitationist theory holds that punishing an offender is an acceptable means to reform that offender.

(B) Reforming a repeat offender sometimes requires giving that offender longer sentences for the repeat offenses than for the initial offense.

(C) Any rehabilitationist theory that holds that criminals should receive longer sentences for repeat offenses than for an initial offense is an acceptable theory.

(D) All theories of criminal sentencing that conform to the principle that the harshness of a punishment should be proportional to the seriousness of the offense are acceptable.

(E) A theory of criminal sentencing that holds that criminals should receive longer sentences for repeat offenses than for an initial offense is acceptable only if it is a rehabilitationist theory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655335)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: obsidian irate church building ape

answer is E

difficulty is 1

i'm not a former lsat instructor, however, so i'll just stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655388)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

never took the LSAT here

answer is E and I got it in like 30-45 seconds, including reading time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655412)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: bateful set mediation

E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655414)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: overrated church idiot

A-D are garbage answer choices which makes it easy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655442)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

yeah this

before I got to E, I was thinking "damn if this one isn't right, then this is actually hard and idk wtf to think"

then "oh, no shit lol"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655461)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle

I was thinking hmmm . . .some of these could be "true" but can't really be "inferred" just from the information there. E being so blatantly obvious removes any need to grapple with how far the meaning of inferred should be stretched.

Edit: actually it's just A now that I've looked back at it. B-D are garbage but A could be right depending on how you parse the question. E is much clearer though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656625)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Amber Razzmatazz Menage Death Wish

(Guy who gets it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656580)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: bespoke dilemma digit ratio

question is a 3 for most students, who will be thrown off by the sheer amount of information and similar words at play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656567)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

damn if this was easier for me than like HS Algebra, should I take the LSAT? lol who am I kidding, I don't want to be a lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656584)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: sable faggot firefighter school

the vast majority of my students were tards so 4 or 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656604)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

what does the average "tard" score?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656676)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: sable faggot firefighter school

148-154

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656889)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: coiffed water buffalo hospital

you really don’t know the median LSAT score?

hint: it’s the same as for any scaled test...divide the max score range by 2 and add to the floor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656901)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

was mostly clarifying if that poaster meant "tards" as in "below median" or as in "the median scorer is a tard"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656916)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: green vengeful coldplay fan

I settled on B before I got to E. I then saw a chorus of xo poas answering E.

I'd say 3/4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656728)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: dashing indigo chapel shitlib

One of the easier LR questions you'll see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656843)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: coiffed water buffalo hospital

D might throw off some retards who don’t understand the difference between “if” as one of potentially many conditions vs “if” as the only condition. necessary vs sufficient, etc. It’s probably the least retarded of the dumb answers but still represents a pretty fundamental error in logic.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656875)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Umber Boltzmann Place Of Business

OK LSAT mastermen, what about this one? How difficult would this be for students?

Psychotherapists who attempt to provide psychotherapy on radio or television talk shows are expected to do so in ways that entertain a broad audience. However, satisfying this demand is nearly always incompatible with providing high-quality psychological help. For this reason, psychotherapists should never provide psychotherapy on talk shows.

Which one of the following principles must be assumed in order for the psychologist’s conclusion to be properly drawn?

(A) It is never appropriate for psychotherapists to attempt to entertain a broad audience.

(B) The context in which psychological help is presented has a greater impact on its quality than the nature of the advice that is given.

(C) Psychotherapy should never be provided in a context in which there is any chance that the therapy might be of less than high quality.

(D) Most members of radio and television talk show audiences are seeking entertainment rather than high-quality psychological help.

(E) Psychotherapists should never attempt to provide psychological help in a manner that makes it unlikely to be of high quality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657126)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: green vengeful coldplay fan

idk, C?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657207)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle

C, 2

Edit actually it's E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657216)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

E, again

okay maybe C, this one was tougher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657222)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle

Look at the premises and the conclusion, E is what fills in the gap, these are bullshit ambiguous choices though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657252)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Charismatic frum hell

okay cool, I was right the first time

you bros had me second guessing

I think the differentiator here is "any chance" vs. "makes it unlikely"

it's impossible to give psychological advice without ANY chance whatsoever of it being less than high quality. The missing piece of the argument is that if the context makes it UNLIKELY, then you shouldn't do it

at least that's how I got there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657268)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: Ivory Electric Stage Wrinkle

The differentiator is actually context vs manner. The premises it gives you are about the manner the help is given, so to reach the end conclusion given, the assumption needs to be that giving help in a sub-optimal manner is wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657647)



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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:53 AM
Author: Fuchsia Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36660848)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: green vengeful coldplay fan

Yeah, C is too strong and is not "necessary."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657277)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: coiffed water buffalo hospital

No it is not C...focus on "nearly always incompatible"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658620)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Canary Exhilarant Bawdyhouse Puppy

E bc "unlikely of high quality" vs. "might be of less than high quailty"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657315)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:29 PM
Author: bull headed brilliant brunch

E

E is better than c bc it restricts it to psychotherapists as opposed to any type of psychological help

Also c is too strong in restricting it to any chance of less than high quality therapy

Idk 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657410)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: coiffed water buffalo hospital

Yeah C is too strong. Common sense would tell you there's always a chance of psychotherapy being less than high quality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658627)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: bespoke dilemma digit ratio

even without reading the question, 5. students cannot wrap their heads around necessary assumption questions at all.

EDIT: after reading, E, 5.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658162)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: coiffed water buffalo hospital

E, probably 3-4 in difficulty.

C could mislead you. The difference is that "nearly always incompatible" translates to "unlikely to be of high quality", not "any chance that the therapy might be of less than high quality".

There's a chance the therapy could be of less than high quality anywhere....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658611)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:36 PM
Author: Bipolar area ladyboy

this was easier than the first one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658979)



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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:58 AM
Author: Contagious ebony patrolman

E, almost always bad = unlikely to be good



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36660858)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: sick confused hall

(Xo 2018)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657282)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: Umber Boltzmann Place Of Business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658441)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: cracking arrogant center friendly grandma

Difficulty 1, answer E.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658504)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: dead cuckold indian lodge

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36659043)