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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:05 PM Author: floppy halford kitchen From 1 to 5, 5 being the toughest.
Legal theorist: Only two types of theories of criminal sentencing can be acceptable—retributivist theories, which hold that the purpose of sentences is simply to punish, and rehabilitationist theories, which hold that a sentence is a means to reform the offender. A retributivist theory is not acceptable unless it conforms to the principle that the harshness of a punishment should be proportional to the seriousness of the offense. Retributivist theories that hold that criminals should receive longer sentences for repeat offenses than for an initial offense violate this principle, since repeat offenses may be no more serious than the initial offense.
Which one of the following can be properly inferred from the legal theorist’s statements?
(A) No rehabilitationist theory holds that punishing an offender is an acceptable means to reform that offender. (B) Reforming a repeat offender sometimes requires giving that offender longer sentences for the repeat offenses than for the initial offense. (C) Any rehabilitationist theory that holds that criminals should receive longer sentences for repeat offenses than for an initial offense is an acceptable theory. (D) All theories of criminal sentencing that conform to the principle that the harshness of a punishment should be proportional to the seriousness of the offense are acceptable. (E) A theory of criminal sentencing that holds that criminals should receive longer sentences for repeat offenses than for an initial offense is acceptable only if it is a rehabilitationist theory. |
Date: August 21st, 2018 1:11 PM Author: walnut know-it-all liquid oxygen roast beef answer is E
difficulty is 1
i'm not a former lsat instructor, however, so i'll just stfu |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: sexy territorial corner never took the LSAT here answer is E and I got it in like 30-45 seconds, including reading time |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Dark thriller library faggotry E (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655414) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:18 PM Author: chest-beating appetizing alpha whorehouse A-D are garbage answer choices which makes it easy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36655442) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 1:20 PM Author: sexy territorial corner yeah this before I got to E, I was thinking "damn if this one isn't right, then this is actually hard and idk wtf to think" then "oh, no shit lol" |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:51 PM Author: duck-like insecure set hunting ground I was thinking hmmm . . .some of these could be "true" but can't really be "inferred" just from the information there. E being so blatantly obvious removes any need to grapple with how far the meaning of inferred should be stretched.
Edit: actually it's just A now that I've looked back at it. B-D are garbage but A could be right depending on how you parse the question. E is much clearer though. |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:45 PM Author: bateful native (Guy who gets it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656580) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Razzle bull headed azn cumskin question is a 3 for most students, who will be thrown off by the sheer amount of information and similar words at play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656567) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:45 PM Author: sexy territorial corner damn if this was easier for me than like HS Algebra, should I take the LSAT? lol who am I kidding, I don't want to be a lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656584) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Onyx multi-colored fat ankles the vast majority of my students were tards so 4 or 5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656604) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 3:58 PM Author: sexy territorial corner what does the average "tard" score? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656676) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Onyx multi-colored fat ankles 148-154 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656889) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Provocative Drunken Range Mad Cow Disease you really don’t know the median LSAT score?
hint: it’s the same as for any scaled test...divide the max score range by 2 and add to the floor |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:35 PM Author: sexy territorial corner was mostly clarifying if that poaster meant "tards" as in "below median" or as in "the median scorer is a tard" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656916) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:07 PM Author: Buck-toothed Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe I settled on B before I got to E. I then saw a chorus of xo poas answering E.
I'd say 3/4. |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:26 PM Author: ocher trailer park One of the easier LR questions you'll see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36656843) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Provocative Drunken Range Mad Cow Disease D might throw off some retards who don’t understand the difference between “if” as one of potentially many conditions vs “if” as the only condition. necessary vs sufficient, etc. It’s probably the least retarded of the dumb answers but still represents a pretty fundamental error in logic.
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Date: August 21st, 2018 4:55 PM Author: floppy halford kitchen OK LSAT mastermen, what about this one? How difficult would this be for students?
Psychotherapists who attempt to provide psychotherapy on radio or television talk shows are expected to do so in ways that entertain a broad audience. However, satisfying this demand is nearly always incompatible with providing high-quality psychological help. For this reason, psychotherapists should never provide psychotherapy on talk shows.
Which one of the following principles must be assumed in order for the psychologist’s conclusion to be properly drawn?
(A) It is never appropriate for psychotherapists to attempt to entertain a broad audience. (B) The context in which psychological help is presented has a greater impact on its quality than the nature of the advice that is given. (C) Psychotherapy should never be provided in a context in which there is any chance that the therapy might be of less than high quality. (D) Most members of radio and television talk show audiences are seeking entertainment rather than high-quality psychological help. (E) Psychotherapists should never attempt to provide psychological help in a manner that makes it unlikely to be of high quality |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Buck-toothed Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe idk, C? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657207) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:05 PM Author: duck-like insecure set hunting ground C, 2
Edit actually it's E |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:06 PM Author: sexy territorial corner E, again okay maybe C, this one was tougher |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:10 PM Author: duck-like insecure set hunting ground Look at the premises and the conclusion, E is what fills in the gap, these are bullshit ambiguous choices though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657252) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:12 PM Author: sexy territorial corner okay cool, I was right the first time you bros had me second guessing I think the differentiator here is "any chance" vs. "makes it unlikely" it's impossible to give psychological advice without ANY chance whatsoever of it being less than high quality. The missing piece of the argument is that if the context makes it UNLIKELY, then you shouldn't do it at least that's how I got there |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:55 PM Author: duck-like insecure set hunting ground The differentiator is actually context vs manner. The premises it gives you are about the manner the help is given, so to reach the end conclusion given, the assumption needs to be that giving help in a sub-optimal manner is wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657647) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:53 AM Author: Greedy odious legal warrant space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36660848) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:13 PM Author: Buck-toothed Beady-eyed Sweet Tailpipe Yeah, C is too strong and is not "necessary." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657277) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM Author: Provocative Drunken Range Mad Cow Disease No it is not C...focus on "nearly always incompatible" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658620) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:21 PM Author: Seedy stubborn state scourge upon the earth E bc "unlikely of high quality" vs. "might be of less than high quailty"
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:29 PM Author: ruddy field partner E
E is better than c bc it restricts it to psychotherapists as opposed to any type of psychological help
Also c is too strong in restricting it to any chance of less than high quality therapy
Idk 3? |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:49 PM Author: Provocative Drunken Range Mad Cow Disease Yeah C is too strong. Common sense would tell you there's always a chance of psychotherapy being less than high quality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658627) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Razzle bull headed azn cumskin even without reading the question, 5. students cannot wrap their heads around necessary assumption questions at all.
EDIT: after reading, E, 5. |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM Author: Provocative Drunken Range Mad Cow Disease E, probably 3-4 in difficulty.
C could mislead you. The difference is that "nearly always incompatible" translates to "unlikely to be of high quality", not "any chance that the therapy might be of less than high quality".
There's a chance the therapy could be of less than high quality anywhere.... |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:36 PM Author: Soul-stirring slap-happy pozpig this was easier than the first one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658979) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2018 1:58 AM Author: indecent carnelian base E, almost always bad = unlikely to be good
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Date: August 21st, 2018 5:14 PM Author: Yellow main people pit (Xo 2018) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36657282) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:30 PM Author: floppy halford kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658441) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM Author: infuriating fighting goyim lettuce Difficulty 1, answer E. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36658504) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:45 PM Author: Violent Violent Nursing Home Therapy Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057065&forum_id=2#36659043) |