Joel Osteen Message 651 - Blessed by your enemies
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Date: August 21st, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Vibrant Area
i like osteen & i think he has a positive and uplifting message, and he helps people
i just don't think it has anything to do with Jesus. he's a self help guru masquerading as a pastor.
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Date: August 21st, 2018 2:23 PM Author: Vibrant Area
"it leads to the God of the live love pray crowd, and that's obviously a dead end"
this
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057130&forum_id=2#36656014)
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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:35 PM Author: marvelous tan incel jew
I fundamentally disagree with the the idea that it’s even possible to have “a church structure with a hierarchy of leaders that keeps people in line and facing the right direction.”
Humans corrupt the process and cannot be trusted. This is why I prefer low church to high church.
Also, I am a firm believer in O’Sullivan’s First Law, which also dooms your ideal IMO: “All organizations that are not expressly right-wing will over time become left-wing.”
https://www.conservapedia.com/O’Sullivan’s_First_Law
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057130&forum_id=2#36659460)
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