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Can we have a non-unhinged discussion re Cohens plea & trump

Cohen pled guilty to a felony and said he committed the crim...
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
What did Cohen *actually* say in court? Are there any transc...
deep public bath regret
  08/21/18
Lmao TSINAH
Burgundy senate fat ankles
  08/21/18
Are you really an atty or do you just play one pretend?
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
All I have is fake news cnn quoting what he said in court an...
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
This guy asks all the right questions
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
...
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
Is failing to disclose a $130,000 payment a constitutional &...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
That is the question. Is what Cohen said trump did even a vi...
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
Of course not. It's not a crime just to TELL someone to do ...
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
Cohen paid out of pocket while not being an official member ...
Concupiscible Toilet Seat Ticket Booth
  08/21/18
I heard it comes down to "official membership." I...
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
1/10
Concupiscible Toilet Seat Ticket Booth
  08/21/18
...
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
you're not really this dumb are you? please tell me ur not ...
mauve mind-boggling tank
  08/21/18
What felony did Cohen commit at Trump's direction
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
Is campaign finance violation a felony? That is the one he s...
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
Obama committed that one in 2008
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
Obama did this repeatedly in both 2008 and 2012. That's why...
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
Good one!
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
I'm assuming that he did this because you said he did, and y...
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
If my wife leaves me and my children for Darnell in order to...
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
You already are bro. Most posters assume your HYS magna due...
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
But is it the requisite level of keen intellect and analysis...
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
No, it's punishable by a fine.
Ocher crawly knife double fault
  08/21/18
not the crime we are discussing
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
Yes literally the same crime
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
According to dirty harry conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor ...
Burgundy senate fat ankles
  08/21/18
...
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
No one knows and it's not in the indictment. All fake.
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/michael...
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
Is this similar to John Edwards?
flushed domesticated heaven
  08/21/18
Edwards was an order of magnitude worse.
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
You mean the recipient of the money was a magnitude uglier.
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
4th circuit has a jury instruction that that’s relevant to g...
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
non-unhinged? gb2/TLS/, faggot!
thriller smoky cruise ship sandwich
  08/21/18
So Cohen pled to bank and tax fraud. what is the actual a...
Orchid associate
  08/21/18
Yes that's my read
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
Yea and that is what I think is a big hole. Trump likely did...
appetizing jew
  08/21/18
Libs?
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
*libs eerily silent as various legal giants run shit on xo*
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&fo...
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
...
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
He can argue that....
Burgundy senate fat ankles
  08/21/18
who has the burden of proof?
Orchid associate
  08/21/18
Prosecutor. Timing, Cohen's testimony, and the known and pot...
Burgundy senate fat ankles
  08/21/18
Didnt cohen already say he didnt have a recording?
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
The recording that was released at minimum shows knowledge ...
Burgundy senate fat ankles
  08/21/18
Are we talking about impeachment? Because that's the only t...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
They were going to impeach him no matter what. Even if he cu...
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
Can we please try to keep this thread somewhat hinged?
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
You didn’t think Dems were going to impeach him if they took...
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
They need something to base it on.
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
They're going to base it on a campaign finance violation tha...
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
He’s just dumb
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
Try re-reading the thread slowly
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
Maybe you should?
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
Ok, let me make it plain. There is no threat of criminal ...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
I completely agree with you. Your position was unclear from ...
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
Obstruction obviously
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
lolwut? Based on what?
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
Yeah, seriously!
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
lol your done here
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
I can only hope you're being purposefully obtuse
mauve mind-boggling tank
  08/21/18
...
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
LJL
mauve mind-boggling tank
  08/21/18
Your honor, move to offer the Guys in my High School Defense...
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  08/21/18
Im gay
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Comical Dun Site
  08/21/18
No one knows, and there's no way to find out. Whatever you ...
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
this thread is not ur best work
gaped racy potus
  08/21/18
lol I know
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
...
multi-colored cowardly mother national
  08/21/18
lol im dying here bro
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
Yes, except that apparently Cohen is willing to testify that...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
sounds like it hinges on whether cohen has a recording or ev...
Orchid associate
  08/21/18
I mean, we're talking about Senators making the call, so I'm...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
...
deep public bath regret
  08/21/18
you'd have to be an idiot to believe that Trump wasn't in so...
gaped racy potus
  08/21/18
Does influencing the election have to be the primary motivat...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
idk
gaped racy potus
  08/21/18
Cot dammit where are our xo election law SCHOLARS!?
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
should be easy to find a out on Lexis whether the intent to ...
startling school incel
  08/21/18
Ljl at xo2018 having Lexis access
Comical Dun Site
  08/21/18
Then do it for me already
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
Well I was wrong, it's taken longer than five minutes and I'...
startling school incel
  08/21/18
Libs sobbing, mewling at their television screens
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
...
Soul-stirring orange center
  08/21/18
Tyft Libs done here
Soul-stirring orange center
  08/21/18
I think the issue is that Cohen made the initial payment wit...
heady roast beef location
  08/21/18
Yeah, even Obama's former White House Counsel has said the c...
Geriatric deranged travel guidebook
  08/21/18
Shit like this is why I’m glad in my country you just kill d...
alcoholic den
  08/21/18
Reading is hard, but here guise: https://www.washingtonpost....
slippery green coffee pot hospital
  08/21/18
Man what would we do without you
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
Oh but that's from the Washington Post. We should just disr...
azure step-uncle's house
  08/21/18
No thats how Democracy Dies
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
...
Comical Dun Site
  08/21/18
[QUOTE] "I participated in this conduct ... for the pr...
deep public bath regret
  08/21/18
Jesus you're dense
Burgundy senate fat ankles
  08/21/18
Scary to think he’s someone’s attorney
cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home
  08/21/18
I just want to know what Cohen actually said in open court. ...
deep public bath regret
  08/21/18
seems very fishy I agree!!
startling school incel
  08/21/18
oh shit!
startling school incel
  08/21/18
Obviously some FEC violation isn’t a HC&M. But what’s th...
Bearded fear-inspiring church building
  08/21/18
Let's just keep investigating him forever. Eventually we'll ...
maroon multi-billionaire boiling water
  08/21/18
maybe a hawaii judge will find that writs of assistance don'...
deep public bath regret
  08/21/18
I think you're right, but "he probably did some even mo...
Snowy unholy home
  08/21/18
...
startled harsh garrison gunner
  08/21/18
Cohen said "Pussy"
Chestnut trip library cuck
  08/21/18
Seems not
titillating internet-worthy chad candlestick maker
  08/21/18


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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: appetizing jew

Cohen pled guilty to a felony and said he committed the crime at the direction of trump.

Getting past the gloating of obeezy/wlmas, if Cohen cooperates could this not provide evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658397)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: deep public bath regret

What did Cohen *actually* say in court? Are there any transcripts? All we have are his attorney's tweets about what he said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658401)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Burgundy senate fat ankles

Lmao TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658423)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house

Are you really an atty or do you just play one pretend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658432)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: appetizing jew

All I have is fake news cnn quoting what he said in court and I don’t know where they are getting it

Presumably it was open to the public and someone was there who heard him say it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658434)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

This guy asks all the right questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658487)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658531)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Is failing to disclose a $130,000 payment a constitutional "high crime [or] misdemeanor?"

Candidates fail to disclose stuff all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658478)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: appetizing jew

That is the question. Is what Cohen said trump did even a violation of felony campaign finance laws in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658499)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

Of course not. It's not a crime just to TELL someone to do a crime. Stupid libs/courts/Mueller don't even know the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658526)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: Concupiscible Toilet Seat Ticket Booth

Cohen paid out of pocket while not being an official member of the campaign. That's why Mueller referred the case to another USA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658541)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

I heard it comes down to "official membership." It's right there in the statutes and laws and different stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658547)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Concupiscible Toilet Seat Ticket Booth

1/10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658558)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658553)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: mauve mind-boggling tank

you're not really this dumb are you? please tell me ur not a lawyer or even a law student.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658607)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

What felony did Cohen commit at Trump's direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658407)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: appetizing jew

Is campaign finance violation a felony? That is the one he said he did at trumps direction according to news articles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658414)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Obama committed that one in 2008

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658428)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

Obama did this repeatedly in both 2008 and 2012. That's why he was indicted for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658498)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Good one!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658509)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

I'm assuming that he did this because you said he did, and you're widely regarded as a top poster who knows a lot about history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658520)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

If my wife leaves me and my children for Darnell in order to smoke crack can I also be a top poster?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658528)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

You already are bro. Most posters assume your HYS magna due to your keen analysis and insight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658540)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

But is it the requisite level of keen intellect and analysis to marry someone who loves crack more than her kids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658551)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: Ocher crawly knife double fault

No, it's punishable by a fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658444)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house

not the crime we are discussing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658463)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Yes literally the same crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658476)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: Burgundy senate fat ankles

According to dirty harry conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is a felony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658494)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658568)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

No one knows and it's not in the indictment. All fake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658513)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:31 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-trump-campaign-finance/568054/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658451)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: flushed domesticated heaven

Is this similar to John Edwards?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658460)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: appetizing jew

Edwards was an order of magnitude worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658466)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

You mean the recipient of the money was a magnitude uglier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658502)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: appetizing jew

4th circuit has a jury instruction that that’s relevant to guilt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658536)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: thriller smoky cruise ship sandwich

non-unhinged? gb2/TLS/, faggot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658483)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Orchid associate

So Cohen pled to bank and tax fraud.

what is the actual accusation about trump? that he made an illegal campaign contribution to himself by spending $100K to pay a whore with his own money to protect himself - but because he was campaigning, we assume that protecting your reputation and influencing the campaign is one and the same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658505)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Yes that's my read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658515)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: appetizing jew

Yea and that is what I think is a big hole. Trump likely did not do it to influence an election because he does this stuff all the time when not running for office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658518)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658527)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

*libs eerily silent as various legal giants run shit on xo*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658562)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658563

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658570)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658571)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Burgundy senate fat ankles

He can argue that....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658529)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Orchid associate

who has the burden of proof?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658532)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Burgundy senate fat ankles

Prosecutor. Timing, Cohen's testimony, and the known and potentially other recordings. But thats academic anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658546)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

Didnt cohen already say he didnt have a recording?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658556)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Burgundy senate fat ankles

The recording that was released at minimum shows knowledge

They were also discussing poll numbers the moment before.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658586)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Are we talking about impeachment? Because that's the only threat (for now). Not going to indict a sitting president.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658567)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

They were going to impeach him no matter what. Even if he cured cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658575)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Can we please try to keep this thread somewhat hinged?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658596)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

You didn’t think Dems were going to impeach him if they took they house? Thats been obvious for a while now. They’ve been openly planning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658606)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

They need something to base it on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658615)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

They're going to base it on a campaign finance violation that Obama's was guilty of in 2008? Is that your non-unhinged premise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658629)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

He’s just dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658634)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Try re-reading the thread slowly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658635)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Maybe you should?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658646)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Ok, let me make it plain.

There is no threat of criminal indictment while Trump is president.

I think it is highly-unlikely that, even if Democrats win the House in November, Trump will be impeached based on this campaign finance violation charge.

If he is impeached, I think concepts like "burden of proof" are distorted, since we are talking about elected Senators making the decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658663)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

I completely agree with you. Your position was unclear from this subthresd until now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658674)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

Obstruction obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658631)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

lolwut? Based on what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658638)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Yeah, seriously!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658653)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

lol your done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658534)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: mauve mind-boggling tank

I can only hope you're being purposefully obtuse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658617)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658545)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: mauve mind-boggling tank

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658608)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: Glittery Mood Coldplay Fan

Your honor, move to offer the Guys in my High School Defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659586)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: sexy pistol factory reset button

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658519)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Comical Dun Site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658851)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

No one knows, and there's no way to find out. Whatever you do, do not read any articles or other "journalism" about this because it will all be lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658535)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: gaped racy potus

this thread is not ur best work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658563)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

lol I know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658580)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: multi-colored cowardly mother national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658640)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house

lol im dying here bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658584)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Yes, except that apparently Cohen is willing to testify that Trump's intent was to influence the election.

So it looks like Trump knowingly committed a campaign finance violation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658555)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: Orchid associate

sounds like it hinges on whether cohen has a recording or evidence of trump saying "please pay this money to influence the election" versus - pay the whore and make this go away.

Not sure how far Cohen's testimony alone goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658589)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

I mean, we're talking about Senators making the call, so I'm not sure how much this is just going to be based on evidence, if it even gets that far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658600)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: deep public bath regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658610)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: gaped racy potus

you'd have to be an idiot to believe that Trump wasn't in some sense hoping to "influence the election" .

That being said, impeachments are political trials not legal ones. Unless the Dems somehow parlay this into a supermajority this is all academic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658651)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Does influencing the election have to be the primary motivation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658672)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: gaped racy potus

idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658688)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Cot dammit where are our xo election law SCHOLARS!?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658751)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: startling school incel

should be easy to find a out on Lexis whether the intent to influence the election has to be the sole, or even primary, purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658764)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Comical Dun Site

Ljl at xo2018 having Lexis access

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658859)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

Then do it for me already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659295)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: startling school incel

Well I was wrong, it's taken longer than five minutes and I'm bored now. Can't find anything definitive, but John Edwards won this exact case by claiming the funds were to protect his reputation. So perhaps that answers it. Would be interesting to see the jury instructions in that case, but I'd be surprised if the government had to prove that the sole intent was to help the election.

Edit: And shocklingly, those instructions are available:

The government does not have to prove that the sole or only purpose of the money was to influence the election. People rarely act with a single purpose in mind. On the other hand, if the donor would have made the gift or payment notwithstanding the election, it does not become a contribution merely because the gift or payment might have some impact on the election. Nor does it become acontribution just because the donor knew it might have some influence on the election and found that acceptable, if the donor’s real purpose was personal or otherwise unrelated to the election

https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/05/jury-instructions-at-john-edwards-trial-123887

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659396)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Libs sobbing, mewling at their television screens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659605)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: Soul-stirring orange center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659697)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: Soul-stirring orange center

Tyft

Libs done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659700)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: heady roast beef location

I think the issue is that Cohen made the initial payment with his own money (and was then reimbursed by Trump). If Trump just paid the money I imagine it’s a fuzzier issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658557)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Geriatric deranged travel guidebook

Yeah, even Obama's former White House Counsel has said the campaign finance laws are ambiguous and it would be difficult to prosecute under the rules as written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658576)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: alcoholic den

Shit like this is why I’m glad in my country you just kill dudes and never litigate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658588)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: slippery green coffee pot hospital

Reading is hard, but here guise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen-is-in-plea-discussions-with-federal-prosecutors-according-to-a-person-familiar-with-the-matter/2018/08/21/5fbd7f34-8510-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.c5203f6ed73b

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658645)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

Man what would we do without you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658654)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: azure step-uncle's house

Oh but that's from the Washington Post. We should just disregard it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658655)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

No thats how Democracy Dies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658664)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: Comical Dun Site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658865)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: deep public bath regret

[QUOTE]

"I participated in this conduct ... for the principal purpose of influencing the election," [Cohen] said.

...

But Cohen said Tuesday that Trump repaid him the money for the purpose of influencing the campaign.

[/QUOTE]

So which one is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658699)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Burgundy senate fat ankles

Jesus you're dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658719)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: cream kink-friendly sound barrier nursing home

Scary to think he’s someone’s attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658721)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: deep public bath regret

I just want to know what Cohen actually said in open court. Every media outlet is guilty of editorializing these stories to fit the narrative they're pushing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658774)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: startling school incel

seems very fishy I agree!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659007)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: startling school incel

oh shit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658741)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Bearded fear-inspiring church building

Obviously some FEC violation isn’t a HC&M. But what’s the chance trump’s illegal activity was limited to this minor shit? He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who worried about committing crimes if it meant winning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658659)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: maroon multi-billionaire boiling water

Let's just keep investigating him forever. Eventually we'll find something!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658681)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: deep public bath regret

maybe a hawaii judge will find that writs of assistance don't violate the fourth amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658750)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Snowy unholy home

I think you're right, but "he probably did some even more shady shit" isn't exactly news or a basis for impeachment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658696)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: startled harsh garrison gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36660190)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Chestnut trip library cuck

Cohen said "Pussy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658723)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: titillating internet-worthy chad candlestick maker

Seems not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659609)