(2) evidence that there were gas chambers used for killing is pretty slim

(3) no evidence of a plan from the nazi leadership to actually exterminate the jews c.f. deport (goes into detail on the wannsee conference)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756304)

2. there's a burden problem here. some might say the burden is on those claiming gas chambers were used (in which case "slim" evidence could be enough), but many will say the burden is on the deniers (in which case any evidence is a big problem)

3. the presumption seems to be that such an undertaking would leave an enormous paper trail. I dont know if that presumption is correct, but likely historians do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756381)

Bottom line is estimates have varied from around 5.1 million to 7 million Jews lost during World War 2.

The evidence of murder, persecution, deportation, gassing, planned killing and a network of approximately 40,000 camps exist. As do countless documents.

6 million is the generally accepted average of these many studies. Essentially, after World War 2 there were about 6 million Jews gone and unaccounted for.

Where did they go? The evidence is pretty clear where they went and what happened to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGdHdE7l9dI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756464)

As recently as a few years ago, they realized the full extent of the detention, transit and death camp system. Around 40,000 total, across Nazi occupied Europe. New information is still being unearthed.

For anyone who even engages in this particularly unhinged area of thought for god knows what reason, let's say it was 3 million killed and not 6. Is that, like, more acceptable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756901)

https://imgur.com/a/XFGSPMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756930)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/9906771/Nazis-may-have-killed-up-to-20m-claims-shocking-new-Holocaust-study.html

kikes are lying scum and they just made shit up to gain power

https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/amp/

just added 5 million out of thin air and no one questioned it lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756938)

Also really convenient that all of the Holocaust "scholarship" emerged 20 years after the war when Jews first became truly dominant in the United States & fully took over academia and the media and WASP power was on the decline. 20 years bro. When so many important witnesses were gone. No mention of gas chambers or millions of dead Jews in the years immediately following the war:

Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill’s The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found.

Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi “gas chambers,” a “genocide” of the Jews, or of “six million” Jewish victims of the war.

Given that the Holocaust would reasonably rank as the single most remarkable episode of the Second World War, such striking omissions must almost force us to place Eisenhower, Churchill, and De Gaulle among the ranks of “implicit Holocaust Deniers.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757036)

read this though

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756271)

Here’s some stuff I wrote the last time XO was beating off to an article of his:

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028224&mc=69&forum_id=2#36516524

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756344)

I thought you were referring to another post you did on this topic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756473)

I don't expect you to read it all but have a glance and tell me whether you think this is 'psuedohistorical sleight of hand'

I'm a layman to this debate but it's undeniably well written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756290)

Do your best to describe the convincing arguments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756328)

The death camps were largely flame, however

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36756974)

https://imgur.com/a/XFGSPMO

The argument being, in essence, that if around 11 million jews existed (globally) post WW2 then pre WW2 the global jewish population must have been around 17 million (muh 6 million). But this implies an impossible rate of growth given jewish population estimates in the early 20th century.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757017)

Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill’s The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found.

Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi “gas chambers,” a “genocide” of the Jews, or of “six million” Jewish victims of the war.

Given that the Holocaust would reasonably rank as the single most remarkable episode of the Second World War, such striking omissions must almost force us to place Eisenhower, Churchill, and De Gaulle among the ranks of “implicit Holocaust Deniers.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757442)

and actually, saying anything other than 6 million is tantamount to holocaust denial these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757445)

where the fuck have you ever seen 5 million by an orthodox historian?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757986)

https://imgur.com/a/XFGSPMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757450)

Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill’s The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found.

Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi “gas chambers,” a “genocide” of the Jews, or of “six million” Jewish victims of the war.

Given that the Holocaust would reasonably rank as the single most remarkable episode of the Second World War, such striking omissions must almost force us to place Eisenhower, Churchill, and De Gaulle among the ranks of “implicit Holocaust Deniers.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757638)

Churchill was a historian and the Second World War is 4.5k pages dude are you fucking serious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36757956)

408-409: "The same day I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.”

And also page 439

“Of all these the Jews were in the most deplorable condition. For years they had been beaten, starved, and tortured.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36759874)

everyone was fucking starving in those camps. but if he took the time to mention the camps why no reference to mass killings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36759888)

----- The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where [there] were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter.----

He said he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'”

BUT BUT HE NEVER SAID SIX MILLION. WHY WOULD HE LEAVE IT OUT??!?!!1 IT WAS A MEMOIRE!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36759996)

I know jews starved to death. NO ONE is disputing this. we're disputing the gassing with pesticides and the lampshades and feeding jews to bears and the absurd ridiculous number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36760032)

you're done here ratfuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36760161)

When did any German soldiers fighting during the war die from starvation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36760278)

and the physical evidence and 'nazi confessions' are pretty weak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36758354)

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357824&mc=64&forum_id=2#31451286

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070667&forum_id=2#36758529)