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Charles: Jesus dies in 30 -> Rome peaks 117 -> Dark ages until 1800s
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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye how do you not see everything became horrible because of Catholicism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846683) |
Date: September 20th, 2018 3:28 AM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846879) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:32 AM Author: charismatic hissy fit weed whacker religion is the devil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846880) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 4:49 AM Author: Comical Voyeur Milk Can't tell if sarcasm?
It was only the "dark ages" in a relatively small part of the world - western europe. The Eastern Roman empire did very well although it had its ups and downs - was still vibrant and making progress, as did other parts of the world with very religious people.
You could just as well say - Diocletian divide ~276 --> Constantine reorganizes empire and moves East to the more economically productive / wealthy parts + legalizes Christianity 325 --> Christianity becomes Official State religion under Theodosius around 390-ish I think --> After Christianity is legalized then becomes official state religion, several generations later Eastern Roman Empire (which they just considered the roman empire) reaches its peak under XO Justinian in 560s
Your thesis makes no sense considering the roman empire - particularly in the west - was *already* in deep trouble by mid 3rd century |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:45 AM Author: Green range philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846951) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:06 AM Author: wild crackhouse op is mfe, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846964) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:58 AM Author: Hilarious Liquid Oxygen Space (gore vi:Dal) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846960) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:04 AM Author: Flatulent Massive Piazza Black Woman “Dark Ages” is a myth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846962) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:07 AM Author: Splenetic violet dysfunction generalized bond Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If you want to see real dark ages look at the entire history of subsaharan africa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846968) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM Author: sepia native degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339996) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:03 PM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma Settle down, Gibbon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339925) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM Author: sepia native degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339991) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Fragrant amethyst crotch principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343030) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: odious church so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years earlier and could have now had flying cars and sex bots that are indistinguishable from humans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340148) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Bronze Really Tough Guy Pretty sure Rome had that stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340150) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: odious church ho lee shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340164) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:37 PM Author: sepia native degenerate What happened in 1800 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340158) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked in 4th century BC athens. https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14660 |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM Author: sepia native degenerate flame on the athens thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341698) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye 32% urbanization rate! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342665) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:57 AM Author: shaky jet-lagged kitty nibblets The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. LJL at 900 AD being worse than the Bronze Age Collapse. That was an actual Dark Age where Greeks had to RE-INVENT writing because they forgot how to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341707) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:00 AM Author: sepia native degenerate social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the idea that pre-british colonization india had some AMAZING standard of living. just lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341718) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:01 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye (guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342257) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was coming on a fucking REVENGE TOUR in the 9th and 10th century hth faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342670) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 11:11 PM Author: Painfully Honest Field Scourge Upon The Earth German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340449) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:53 AM Author: shaky jet-lagged kitty nibblets Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low IQ. Demographic collapse, long-term economic stagnation, de-urbanization, and political fragmentation that took centuries to reverse were all critical and not particularly linked to Christianity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341694) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM Author: sepia native degenerate whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341699) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:59 PM Author: bat shit crazy insanely creepy yarmulke Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulously prepared histories of Greece and Rome that survived but they didn’t do that across Europe and had a tendency to burn the others “Chronicles” when new power came along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343039) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:05 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that has time to write histories isn't living at subsistence at risk of starvation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343078) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:07 AM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a society to recover from said devastation - only remaining functioning govt and SCHOLARSHIP were the Church apparatus for a while in the West and in the East Xtian fanticism saved them vs the Sassanids (Heraclius is the FIRST Crusader) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341734) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:02 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye ...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a couple centuries? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342265) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:03 PM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma ? Absolute flame
Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups for that CAVALRY, Germans developed better democratic governance & Europe didnt' employ slaves,
France had much much better agricultural output than the Roman times
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:22 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342436) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:03 PM Author: shaky jet-lagged kitty nibblets It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to 0 AD is fucking flame, or if it is true, fails to account for a dramatic explosion in population. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343065) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:10 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is a brag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343098) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:29 PM Author: slate pungent turdskin stag film Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam. After muslims conquered the middle east europe lost its main supplies of gold and papyrus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342468) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: shaky jet-lagged kitty nibblets Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn’t help it’s not really the cause. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342476) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:38 PM Author: slate pungent turdskin stag film It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European economies, and 2. lack of writing/scholarship for about 700 years. The only thing they could make books out of was parchment, which was extremely expensive and time consuming to produce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342897) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:41 PM Author: shaky jet-lagged kitty nibblets Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was far worse off in 630 than it was in in 330, which in turn was much worse off than it was in 30. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342908) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:49 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342963) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read up on the Crisis of the 3rd Century.
Constantine saved teh Empire hth |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:55 PM Author: exhilarant chapel boistinker Aurelian master race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343010) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:00 PM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his early death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343045) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:20 AM Author: sienna geriatric whorehouse double fault can't argue with thescience
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM Author: Apoplectic kitty cat brunch Reddit is lols (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342638) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM Author: effete federal locale friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342643) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM Author: Misunderstood Temple But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances during that time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342982) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:21 PM Author: Poppy Step-uncle's House Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345636) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:53 PM Author: bat shit crazy insanely creepy yarmulke You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time period and it’s incredible how alive the world was. Religion overall probably made it worse, but some amazing things happened over those 1600 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342993) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:57 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343022) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM Author: bat shit crazy insanely creepy yarmulke 952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343029) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye (Guy really interested in subsistence living) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343197) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:32 PM Author: sepia native degenerate What books (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345681) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:34 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345690) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Poppy Step-uncle's House Toaster This is your brain on xkcd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343200) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:12 PM Author: stubborn azn public bath lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient history facts.
Seems like :D discovers a website devoted to a weird slant of a popular topic and then just gives himself entirely to it. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: shimmering swashbuckling lay round eye https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Ober This guy is a SCHOLAR. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Soggy Crawly Gas Station Mad Cow Disease Q predicted this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345600) |