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how the fuck do you deal with overly zealous prosectors who'...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
99% of them are an absolute joke
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
get them in front of a prole jury who will roll their eyes a...
Lavender goal in life hall
  10/18/18
...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
what else is one supposed to do i guess when the choice is t...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
This. Jurisdictional rules can greatly affect your strat...
yapping lay
  10/18/18
in one case in particular, the Defendant is more than willin...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
Dude you need to man the fuck up and handle this prosecutor....
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
i don't think so. i think he or she is sensing a promotion s...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
Tell him that you have no problem going to (first name of hi...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
bad facts on my side, i'm afraid. bad facts
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
Was the previous offer over-generous, then? That might be wh...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
maybe so, maybe so. but i don't think any higher ups were in...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
No, absolutely not. But they may have noticed that the previ...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
The point is to get it done, and if you can convince a highe...
yapping lay
  10/18/18
...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
yep courthouse steps is only place youll get best deal. or ...
blue native
  10/18/18
nothing like loudly whispering to your client "holy shi...
Flatulent comical center
  10/18/18
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Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
can you draft a motion to enforce plea agreement and send to...
blue native
  10/18/18
unfortunately the better plea was never written up
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
eh, draft the motion anyway? your client relied on represent...
blue native
  10/18/18
...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
lol there is a tryhard misdemeanor dude in my jdx who flamed...
blue native
  10/18/18
Jfc, he won't last
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
jfc. DANY?
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
nah florida not sure what his ENDGAME is but its lulzy becau...
blue native
  10/18/18
E-mail me his name, this sounds hilarious. I might know some...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
just did. tremendously lulzy career progression. t10 to v...
blue native
  10/18/18
what's your email? i want to run my situation by you
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
floridashitlaw@gmail.com
blue native
  10/18/18
ty 10-4
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
LJL this guy must be an absolute prick
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
recently had a guy who didnt complete terms of DPA on time a...
blue native
  10/18/18
...
Flatulent comical center
  10/18/18
...
blue native
  10/18/18
i got a 3.800 on herfor tech sentencing error.
Flatulent comical center
  10/18/18
least surprising thing ever. i am not fond of her.
blue native
  10/18/18
jfc
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
the best offers come between the judge asking if you're read...
Flatulent comical center
  10/18/18
...
blue native
  10/18/18
and that's just pro se!
Flatulent comical center
  10/18/18
...
yapping lay
  10/18/18
...
Ivory Boistinker
  10/18/18
WWSGD?
Khaki provocative antidepressant drug library
  10/18/18
...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
...
At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping
  10/18/18
almost as bad as true-believer defense lawyers who think all...
erotic up-to-no-good marketing idea hospital
  10/18/18


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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

how the fuck do you deal with overly zealous prosectors who're trying to get a pay raise promotion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050759)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

99% of them are an absolute joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050780)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Lavender goal in life hall

get them in front of a prole jury who will roll their eyes at this try-hard faggotry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050764)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050773)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

what else is one supposed to do i guess when the choice is take a terrible plea at next court date or get the charge up filed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050788)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: yapping lay

This.

Jurisdictional rules can greatly affect your strategy but generally, but if you’re looking for a deal, under these circumstances, you might be better off trying to take it out of the state’s hands and dealing directly with the court. Again, depending on where you practice the nuts and bolts of making this happen can vary greatly, and obviously, it all depends on your read of the judge and ability to get a decent outcome from the bench. M

Option two is trial. You and this dickhead don’t have shit else to talk about, and your best bet is to be as aggressive as reasonably possible in hopes of either forcing the state’s hand or bending the offer toward something more palatable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050800)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

in one case in particular, the Defendant is more than willing to plead to one of the two charges, but refuses to plead to the other charge because it'd fuck with his job / job search. i relay this much to the state, who provisionally agreed to drop the second charge. next thing i know, the case is in someone else's hands and both charges are back on the table. now state is threatening to up file if he goes to trial or doesn't take plea on both charges at next court date.

if the terms were what i was worried about, yeah I'd definitely plead open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050819)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

Dude you need to man the fuck up and handle this prosecutor. He or she is sensing weakness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050848)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

i don't think so. i think he or she is sensing a promotion soon if aggressive. anyway, what do you suggest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050852)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

Tell him that you have no problem going to (first name of his boss) on this one. I've only done that once in my career and it resulted in a nolle pros and the bitch prosecutor losing her job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050865)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

bad facts on my side, i'm afraid. bad facts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050876)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

Was the previous offer over-generous, then? That might be why there was a change in prosecutors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050888)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

maybe so, maybe so. but i don't think any higher ups were involved in the switcheroo to save the two charges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050896)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

No, absolutely not. But they may have noticed that the previous prosecutor was getting SPS deals for the state. Those are my favorite prosecutors, obviously. I went into a misdemeanor VOP hearing ready to offer 120 days suspended for a DUI client who violated probation, fled the state, got a DUI in that other state and got arrested on the plane on their flight down here for being too drunk. The prosecutor started out by offering to terminate probation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051011)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: yapping lay

The point is to get it done, and if you can convince a higher up to amend you should consider it.

But you can’t be weak here. You already aren’t getting what you want. Don’t be afraid of trial either. The one thing a prosecutor never wants to do is having to explain an NG or a lesser to their higher ups or to their witnesses. The reason half these dickheads play tough like this is to dissuade you from taking it to a jury in the first place. Take this guy to the brink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051014)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051017)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: blue native

yep courthouse steps is only place youll get best deal. or try to make them spend money by taking depo of an out of state witness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051075)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Flatulent comical center

nothing like loudly whispering to your client "holy shit bro these potential jurors got a thicker record than you. point out your homies names"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051125)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051152)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: blue native

can you draft a motion to enforce plea agreement and send to the dick pros?

are there any other holes in the case you can punch? motions to dismiss, suppress etc. no matter how spurious or bad faith they may be, they still require the guy to work. bonus if its something he will have to do research on. he is a da because he is lazy, make him work and he might fold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051060)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

unfortunately the better plea was never written up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051073)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: blue native

eh, draft the motion anyway? your client relied on representations made by the state in making employment and education decisions that affected his future. i *probably* wouldnt waste judge equity actually setting that motion for hearing but its all a game of chicken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051089)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051146)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: blue native

lol there is a tryhard misdemeanor dude in my jdx who flamed out of Skadden and now takes it out on wifebeaters and druggies.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050772)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

Jfc, he won't last

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050775)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

jfc. DANY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050779)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: blue native

nah florida not sure what his ENDGAME is but its lulzy because we are both v10 refugees who are now shitlawing it up but he seems to actually give a fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050862)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

E-mail me his name, this sounds hilarious. I might know someone who knows of him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050879)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: blue native

just did. tremendously lulzy career progression.

t10 to v5 to state court STAFF ATTORNEY to misdemeanor ASA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050906)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

what's your email? i want to run my situation by you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050935)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: blue native

floridashitlaw@gmail.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050937)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping

ty 10-4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050961)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

LJL this guy must be an absolute prick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050995)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: blue native

recently had a guy who didnt complete terms of DPA on time and the downside was 10 days in jail. didnt really have an excuse but forgot his court date and a capias was issued.

I brought him in, convinced angry WOC judge that he would finish the classes and she was cool with giving him 30 more days. ASA tool insisted on imposing the downside ("THIS IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE DEFENDANT AND THE STATE!!") and my bro was taken into handicuffs on the spot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051023)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Flatulent comical center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051117)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: blue native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051121)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: Flatulent comical center

i got a 3.800 on herfor tech sentencing error.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051142)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: blue native

least surprising thing ever. i am not fond of her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051149)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051174)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Flatulent comical center

the best offers come between the judge asking if you're ready and while looking at juror questionnaires awaiting them to walk in. got serious prison time to 24mos probation more than 1 occasion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050917)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: blue native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050918)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Flatulent comical center

and that's just pro se!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050926)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: yapping lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051032)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Ivory Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37051158)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Khaki provocative antidepressant drug library

WWSGD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37050941)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37052350)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: At-the-ready cream school cafeteria gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37053252)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: erotic up-to-no-good marketing idea hospital

almost as bad as true-believer defense lawyers who think all their clients are innocent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109774&forum_id=2#37053305)