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Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
Tell us more about this economic collapse
razzmatazz immigrant
  11/12/18
did women ever comment on the penis size thing
slimy exciting site
  11/12/18
yes, you will be bigger than their chinese partners, and the...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
most FOBs i know much prefer asian men they prob mainly w...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
i never paid for anything when i was with chinese girls. the...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
they probably wanted a green card
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
Chinese women will do anything for a green card. that's why ...
domesticated school
  11/12/18
cr, HK, TW, SGers would never date or marry a mainlander in ...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
how about you go to a rich Asian country and see how you do ...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
Lol the women are easy as fuck in Taiwan The issue with ...
Puce hairraiser gay wizard brunch
  11/12/18
LOL at all the butthurt NOWAG pumos rushing ITT to fight you...
cerebral stain sex offender
  11/12/18
fwiw, i'm hapa female, not NOWAG it's well known many mai...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
kill yourself doobs. also yeah, getting Ragnus'd is sadly...
domesticated school
  11/12/18
lol poor Ragnus....seems like a good dood (aside from the me...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
i'm not fat
Fragrant jet boistinker
  11/12/18
you look like a land whale, but still cool
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
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razzmatazz immigrant
  11/12/18
You're a celestial pearl.
aromatic round eye plaza
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Metal queen of the night
  11/12/18
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passionate cobalt telephone jew
  11/12/18
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aromatic round eye plaza
  11/12/18
lol @ choosing to live in the TTT mainland
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
the idea that there's a sekrit Chinese club for Chinese is r...
domesticated school
  11/12/18
mainlanders mainly just care about $$ because they grew up d...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
It's quite sad to see, actually. Feel bad for Asian bros
misanthropic cordovan philosopher-king personal credit line
  11/12/18
Yeah, wow, I feel so much solidarity with America and Facebo...
sinister stage cumskin
  11/12/18
I didn't post any criticisms of Chinese people or culture. T...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
90% of people in every society have no theory of mind capabi...
domesticated school
  11/12/18
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aromatic round eye plaza
  11/12/18
Regarding the Chinar NPC meme, Rainy archetype encapsulates ...
brass new version
  11/12/18
"their extreme materialism" - so are you just conf...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
LOL at this coming from the scumbag hapa pumette who married...
pink liquid oxygen
  11/12/18
He didn't have a big inheritance until AFTER I married him, ...
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
Elaborate. Did his parents win the lottery or what? You obvi...
pink liquid oxygen
  11/12/18
Living in mainlnd China sounds like hell on Earth. Thoughts ...
cerebral stain sex offender
  11/12/18
Dat way too spicy for you
infuriating filthpig voyeur
  11/12/18
I rike spicy
cerebral stain sex offender
  11/12/18
You will enjoy it and it will be worth the trip. I already g...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
Tyty
cerebral stain sex offender
  11/12/18
This is true and I was thinking much the same while living a...
fishy insane multi-billionaire
  11/12/18
I'd be interested in hearing about experiences from other ex...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
i know ppl who lived in foreign countries for considerable t...
impertinent rigor
  11/12/18
I’m a multiple-year China-adjacent expat. The “l...
adulterous spot
  11/12/18
The MAF Chinese guys ITT are pretty amusing.
sable rigpig
  11/12/18
it's just a deranged hapa chick, ignore her
narrow-minded kitchen depressive
  11/12/18
Mediocre white guys in China were dating plain looking Chine...
mildly autistic death wish
  11/12/18
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Transparent Incel
  11/12/18
Alzabo confirmed azn
cerebral stain sex offender
  11/12/18
so is 80% of this bort
Umber arousing abode
  11/12/18
Every chinaman with $$$ Is trying to flee that sinking ship ...
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  11/12/18
it would be trivially easy for them to construct a stable ec...
domesticated school
  11/12/18
have you driven on american roads? or navigated a US transit...
narrow-minded kitchen depressive
  11/12/18
i enjoyed this poast. why did you decide to live in china? w...
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
re: your poast below - see the link in my OP for the context...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
did you go to DLI friend? we have had remarkably similar...
Mind-boggling indirect expression house
  11/12/18
yup. i thought we already discussed DLI in a previous thread...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
yup, former interpreter. been there and greater china 20+ t...
Mind-boggling indirect expression house
  11/12/18
damn that's wild. we should hang out sometime, i promise i w...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
I feel you. currently facing another bigish decision to rel...
Mind-boggling indirect expression house
  11/12/18
pacific northwest. i grew up here too and i love this place,...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
always wanted to live on the olympic peninsula after dosing ...
Mind-boggling indirect expression house
  11/12/18
you guys are eerily similar to a dude I met living in Taiwan...
brass new version
  11/12/18
you need to give examples or your vague generalizations are ...
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  11/12/18
i don't really want to type out a bunch of examples, to be h...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
ty. your scores must have been off the charts if you were as...
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
i'm smart but not that smart, no need to flatter me. my DLPT...
Fantasy-prone lodge
  11/12/18
i've used some old DLI material to good effect, but probably...
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
good link but that's fsi not dli
Mind-boggling indirect expression house
  11/12/18
oh yeah, different page on the same site - https://fsi-l...
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
180 site
infuriating filthpig voyeur
  11/12/18
Can't link to it because their certificate is expired, but t...
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
FSI is awesome, will check out the DLI stuff
adulterous spot
  11/12/18
check out gloss.
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
just bookmarked, ty
adulterous spot
  11/12/18
"lots of white guys in the current year harbor fantasie...
irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house
  11/12/18
lol
Fantasy-prone lodge
  06/28/19
ADV China is a popular youtube channel of two white guys liv...
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  11/12/18
LOLLERCAUSTING hard ITT
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  11/12/18
bump for all the guys talking about moving to asia to "...
Fantasy-prone lodge
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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

follow-up long form to post here: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4130162&forum_id=2#37209985

lots of white guys in the current year harbor fantasies of escaping western degeneration by moving to china. i'm here to tell you about my personal experience and why this doesn't work. for starters, you should know that china is working on a pretty epic economic collapse, but this post is going to be more about general cultural and ethnic differences between whites and chinese

chinese women will love you. this much is true. chinese men are unrefined, selfish, terrible lovers, and generally very clueless about women. not to mention the small dick thing, which is very real, and something that asian men are very self-conscious about

speaking of which - although the chinese women will love you, the chinese men will resent you. they will never really accept you as one of them. because you aren't one of them. you will never be one of them. they will respect you, yes (if you are worthy of respect). they may even defer to you a majority of the time. but they'll never see you as one of them. you'll always be a lao wai, even if you marry a chinese girl or speak their language just as fluently as they do. and when the chips are down, they'll always side with other chinese over you. as well they should - you're an invader in their land who they accommodate, just as the chinese immigrants in western lands are invaders who we accommodate

you'll never achieve the same camaraderie with chinese that you will with other white people. you'll never really understand what it means to be chinese, just as they will never really understand what it means to be a white american. this may seem like a simple statement that doesn't say much, but it's something that i didn't *get* until actually experiencing it for myself, and it's a common refrain among white expats in china. yes, you will make chinese friends, and you will genuinely enjoy each other's company. but it won't ever be quite the same as relationships with people who genuinely understand you and value you for what you really are

i never appreciated just how fundamentally different groups of humans really are until i lived in china for an extended period of time. "diversity" may not be "our strength," but it is real - we really are different from each other. this is not some kind of nebulous thing made up by internet nazis. and it's okay to be different. refusing to recognize differences between groups is wrong, and it hurts everyone

if you have specific questions about china for me, go ahead and ask. i would highly recommend it as a place to visit, or even to live there for a while. but moving there and staking out a brand-new life for yourself as a white person will not work. i haven't personally lived in other parts of asia (or anywhere else in the world), but i'm virtually certain that this same principle applies to everywhere else, too. you'll never be truly happy or content unless you live among your own kind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216130)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz immigrant

Tell us more about this economic collapse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218274)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: slimy exciting site

did women ever comment on the penis size thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216141)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

yes, you will be bigger than their chinese partners, and they will notice and appreciate it. but the women are more turned on by the fact that you're white than they are by your marginally bigger cock. it's difficult to explain with words just how much white men are fetishized by women in asia

it does feel really good, i'm not going to lie to you. but the women will never really understand you. your relationships will never be anything more than sexual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216201)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

most FOBs i know much prefer asian men

they prob mainly wanted your $$$, not your cock

mainlanders were all dirt poor peasants until this generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216278)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

i never paid for anything when i was with chinese girls. they would always insist on paying. they would always be making me food and giving me gifts and eagerly going out of their way to do everything i wanted. it was the equivalent of being a 9.5/10 white guy chad in america. i'm not trying to brag - that's just how it is over there for a white guy who is reasonably attractive and good with women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216325)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

they probably wanted a green card



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216335)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: domesticated school

Chinese women will do anything for a green card. that's why they spend millions taking advantage of birthright citizenship in California

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216339)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

cr, HK, TW, SGers would never date or marry a mainlander in part because they realize how gold digging they are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216359)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

how about you go to a rich Asian country and see how you do there (like HK, TW, SG)....doubt you can get girls easily there without paying for anything unless you look like a model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216350)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Puce hairraiser gay wizard brunch

Lol the women are easy as fuck in Taiwan

The issue with Singapore and HK isn't their wealth but the abundance of white men who live there



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217306)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: cerebral stain sex offender

LOL at all the butthurt NOWAG pumos rushing ITT to fight you on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216862)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

fwiw, i'm hapa female, not NOWAG

it's well known many mainlanders will do anything for $$/green cards. rich asians from other countries avoid dating them because of their gold digging reputation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216891)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: domesticated school

kill yourself doobs.

also yeah, getting Ragnus'd is sadly too common

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216903)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

lol poor Ragnus....seems like a good dood (aside from the mentally ill addictions and obesity)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216912)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Fragrant jet boistinker

i'm not fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217115)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

you look like a land whale, but still cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217232)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: razzmatazz immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218331)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: aromatic round eye plaza

You're a celestial pearl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216927)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Metal queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37219618)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: passionate cobalt telephone jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216153)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: aromatic round eye plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216194)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

lol @ choosing to live in the TTT mainland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216231)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: domesticated school

the idea that there's a sekrit Chinese club for Chinese is retarded. the entire nature of Chinese society is driven by the fact that there is no in-group or out-group. chinese solidarity is laughable to anyone who has ever lived in China except for retard expats who think they're moving to a poor version of Japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216243)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

mainlanders mainly just care about $$ because they grew up dirt poor peasants and all the wealth was long drained to HK, TW, SG etc. by non-peasants

they are only "respectful" of OP because they thought he had money - nobody cares about whitey in mainland except to the extent he has $$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216253)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: misanthropic cordovan philosopher-king personal credit line

It's quite sad to see, actually. Feel bad for Asian bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216261)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: sinister stage cumskin

Yeah, wow, I feel so much solidarity with America and Facebook and shitlibs and CNN!

All of your criticisms are pretty neutral man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216366)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

I didn't post any criticisms of Chinese people or culture. The entire point of my post is that peoples and cultures are fundamentally different in a sense entirely separate from inferiority and superiority

But the responses in this thread from ethnically Chinese people do demonstrate a a couple specific criticisms I have of Chinese people and culture: their extreme materialism and their relatively undeveloped theory of mind capabilities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216842)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: domesticated school

90% of people in every society have no theory of mind capabilities. NPCs and all.

it's just that as an American, you have a deeper understanding of American culture that allows you to immediately weed out NPCs from your life.

it's unlikely that most expats have a deep enough understanding of their new countries to really have solid heurestics to weed out NPCs. like what would the Chinese version of a "eat, laugh, travel" door mat be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216845)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: aromatic round eye plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217003)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: brass new version

Regarding the Chinar NPC meme, Rainy archetype encapsulates this very well:

i'm a sunshine girl, like to eat, sleep, laugh every day~~

maybe you can have a try?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218281)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

"their extreme materialism" - so are you just confirming what I said earlier in this thread? My entire point is mainland women are materialistic and mainly attracted to you because of $$$/green card....not your race or looks.

Non-mainlanders (who are generally much wealthier) don't like dating mainlanders - just LOL @ some dumbass white boi thinking he's hot shit when he gets a gold digger to suck his wee wee for a chance at a green card. ITH MUTH BE MUH LOOKTHS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216929)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: pink liquid oxygen

LOL at this coming from the scumbag hapa pumette who married a white dork for his 8 figure inheritance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216975)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

He didn't have a big inheritance until AFTER I married him, you fucking cocksucker

We've been together for many, many years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216986)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: pink liquid oxygen

Elaborate. Did his parents win the lottery or what? You obviously knew he was well off before you married him, right?

And so you're one of those childless couples whose been together for "many, many years"? Sounds healthy and like you're not a deranged pumo. Move along!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217262)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: cerebral stain sex offender

Living in mainlnd China sounds like hell on Earth. Thoughts on Chengdu for 3 days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216875)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: infuriating filthpig voyeur

Dat way too spicy for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216942)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: cerebral stain sex offender

I rike spicy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216976)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

You will enjoy it and it will be worth the trip. I already gave you my thoughts and recommendations in that other thread you poasted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217120)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: cerebral stain sex offender

Tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217181)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: fishy insane multi-billionaire

This is true and I was thinking much the same while living as an expat in Russia. People who really travel and get out there all know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216902)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

I'd be interested in hearing about experiences from other expats who have lived overseas for significant periods of time in other areas and cultures. But apparently all I'm going to get in this thread is obtuse Chinese people complaining and nitpicking, solipsistically accusing me of misrepresenting a reality that is accurately described by virtually every white American expat I've ever met who lived in China

Don't worry guys - I still love and respect Chinese culture and people and always will (that's why I chose to live there, after all). But if nothing else, this thread should be a reminder to white readers that Chinese (and any other group of non-whites) will never be "Americans" - they will always be Chinese. Criticize "America" or "Americans," and none of these people would ever care. Talk about China and Chinese people matter-of-factly? All of a sudden, they swarm you to defend themselves as a self-identifying cohesive ethnic group

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217098)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: impertinent rigor

i know ppl who lived in foreign countries for considerable time. the ops narrative is tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217702)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: adulterous spot

I’m a multiple-year China-adjacent expat. The “life as a series of transactions” thing is especially true in mainland china where it’s completely out of control, I think it’s a little more tempered in other places; also I have no knowledge of “dating local” because my wife is white too and I don’t fuck around. Aside from that, everything THOTRAVAGER says is spot on. Cultures matter enormously and people are really different; there are some great places in Asia that I enjoy a lot but once I’m done I will come back West. People like their own kind who they understand and with whom they share values and that is perfectly OK— common understanding and culture are our strength, not diversity. And the thing about Chinese having incredibly thin skin and all swarming together and buzzing the moment anybody says anything about China is also hilariously true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218148)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: sable rigpig

The MAF Chinese guys ITT are pretty amusing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216916)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: narrow-minded kitchen depressive

it's just a deranged hapa chick, ignore her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217272)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: mildly autistic death wish

Mediocre white guys in China were dating plain looking Chinese women. The idea that local women will flock to you is just escapist fantasies by losers who desperately want to think that some part of the world can be reinvented for them and they are appreciated there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216917)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Transparent Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216932)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: cerebral stain sex offender

Alzabo confirmed azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216985)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Umber arousing abode

so is 80% of this bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216999)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: confused turquoise organic girlfriend famous landscape painting

Every chinaman with $$$ Is trying to flee that sinking ship

https://m.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/2167731/desperate-chinese-middle-class-take-big-risks-move-money-and-themselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37216994)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: domesticated school

it would be trivially easy for them to construct a stable economy/country, but Chinese are fundamentally incapable of working collectively or in teams.

Americans really just don't "get" this, because they live in a society where humans are capable of waiting in lines and following rules

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217005)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: narrow-minded kitchen depressive

have you driven on american roads? or navigated a US transit hub? americans are horrid at rule-following and orderliness and sadly it's not just the nigs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217305)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

i enjoyed this poast. why did you decide to live in china? what compelled you to leave? what were the biggest differences you saw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217122)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

re: your poast below - see the link in my OP for the context

i was a chinese linguist in the US military and decided to live in china for a while after i became a civilian again. at the time i was pretty disillusioned with america's future and was looking for somewhere to escape to where i could actually settle down and stake out a new life. i left for the reason that i explain in my OP - i could never live long-term in a place where i'd always be an outsider. still looking for a place to escape to from the gradual degeneration of america, though

there are a lot of differences, of course, but i'll focus on the main two: 1. chinese people have almost no concept of individual identity and individual rights, and 2. chinese people view the world as a series of formulaic material and social transactions. these two things are strikingly different than how white westerners see the world, and almost all of the other differences between whites and chinese derive from these two main differences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217480)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Mind-boggling indirect expression house

did you go to DLI friend?

we have had remarkably similar experiences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217495)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

yup. i thought we already discussed DLI in a previous thread but maybe i just assumed. have you lived in china too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217505)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Mind-boggling indirect expression house

yup, former interpreter. been there and greater china 20+ times but could only stomach living in the mainland continuously for about a year. I could've written every word in your OP verbatim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217536)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

damn that's wild. we should hang out sometime, i promise i won't doobs you. sometimes i think back to my military and china years and miss them dearly. some of the best experiences of my life and i have no regrets. just wish that our own homeland wasn't so fucked up and crazy and i could settle somewhere where i was confident enough in my future and my offsprings' future to plant real roots :-\

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217560)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Mind-boggling indirect expression house

I feel you. currently facing another bigish decision to relocate to mountain west or stay in coastal mega city where things are easier given the infrastructure base but politically less stable long-term. what region of the US are you in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217593)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

pacific northwest. i grew up here too and i love this place, but it's just too fucking shitlib and insane. it makes me really sad because this place was a borderline utopia up until the 21st century leftist takeover

i too want to move to the mountain west. most of my family is from there and i visit pretty often and it seems like one of the last good places left within the continental U.S.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217650)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: Mind-boggling indirect expression house

always wanted to live on the olympic peninsula after dosing while camping in the hoh rainforest in the late 90s. but like you said, too shitlib and insane now. thought about spokane for proximity to CDL but seems a little too dry/lifeless. ultimately, i think living at altitude ~7k feet does something positive for the soul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217997)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: brass new version

you guys are eerily similar to a dude I met living in Taiwan

you guys should read CCJ on reddit if you don't already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218316)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: cracking vermilion black woman double fault

you need to give examples or your vague generalizations are meaningless

sorry you couldn't find a good girl who liked you for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217561)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

i don't really want to type out a bunch of examples, to be honest. i can tell you that if you keep these 2 generalizations in mind when interacting with ethnically chinese people, you will understand them and accommodate them a lot better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37219610)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

ty. your scores must have been off the charts if you were assigned to learn chinese. how long was your training? how proficient did you feel at the end of it, especially reading? i'm guessing somewhere around intermediate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217648)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

i'm smart but not that smart, no need to flatter me. my DLPT scores were passing level but i was in an accelerated course. my post-DLI language skills sucked compared to how good my chinese was after living overseas. it's hard to take classroom language instruction very seriously after experiencing just how much more effective total immersion is

the only thing classroom instruction is really good for is grammar. if you're high IQ you can definitely shave off learning time by studying formal grammar in a structured way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217688)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

i've used some old DLI material to good effect, but probably very differently from how it's used in the classroom:

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217713)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: Mind-boggling indirect expression house

good link but that's fsi not dli

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217731)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

oh yeah, different page on the same site -

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/dli.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217758)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: infuriating filthpig voyeur

180 site

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218159)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

Can't link to it because their certificate is expired, but the best part of available DLI material is GLOSS, which offers material at intermediate level and above. good intermediate material is pretty hard to come by in English, so it's really a godsend that also happens to be free.

https://gloss.dliflc.edu/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218248)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: adulterous spot

FSI is awesome, will check out the DLI stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218170)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

check out gloss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218254)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: adulterous spot

just bookmarked, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37218287)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: irradiated drunken candlestick maker step-uncle's house

"lots of white guys in the current year harbor fantasies of escaping western degeneration by moving to china."

btw, i don't know anyone irl who dreams of living in china for the authoritarianism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217157)



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Date: June 28th, 2019 4:12 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#38457087)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Nighttime menage useless brakes

ADV China is a popular youtube channel of two white guys living in China. Even though they don't intentionally make it look horrible, it looks horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37217203)



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Date: November 12th, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: high-end crusty factory reset button

LOLLERCAUSTING hard ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#37219295)



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Date: June 28th, 2019 4:11 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone lodge

bump for all the guys talking about moving to asia to "escape" the west after watching the democratic debates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131015&forum_id=2#38457085)