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Date: December 10th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: bull headed base
This is even more pathetic than I imagined. This pathetic chaebong hyung is not Korean and can’t even speak Korean. We probably have white guys posting who are more Korean and speak better Korean than nyuug. JFC!
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4033235&mc=112&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386132) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:11 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
devry is the type of guy to correct a comparative + objective pronoun to a comparative + subjective pronoun so were talking degrees of preciseness here
in the end that dont matter at ALL cuz
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386300)
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:30 PM Author: Fear-inspiring National
Still have it in imessage from 3 years ago
https://ibb.co/2Zj0K1D
She said "two girls talking about where to meet up"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386455) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Cordovan stock car
The pronouns arent the issue here.
His writing style is very girly in that text, using slang like gogossing and exclamation marks which is a bit feminine.
His spacing between words is off but passable.
If a native Korean dude texted like that the girl would ghost him. It only works bc nyuug is viewed as a foreigner.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386516) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 7:44 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
im not even going to explain why there are no such thing as gendered pronouns in korean because you dont even speak korean
you, which are the only real pronouns in korean are neuter. anything else is just nouns and not real pronouns, let alone "gendered pronouns"
EDIT - forgot me
너같은 병신새끼들 지랄하는거봐봐 hfth you dumb fuck
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37391950) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 8:12 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
so you admit that im right in that you and me are the only real pronouns in korean. and no, titles are not pronouns. also no such thing as gendered pronouns let me make that clear for you, you fucking retard.
as for your elision shit thats completely irrelevant here.
god youre dumb
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37392189) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 9:45 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
Fair enough
여편네, 여인들, 여성분들 (which i don't really think is a pronoun in the strictest sense)
저자, 그자, 임자, 댁
and yes on 1 and 2 obviously, but there also is of course an element of Japanese era words (제씨 is one of them) that basically died off.
The thing is though many of the 3rd person "pronouns" in Korean are strictly speaking nouns rather than pronouns, at least prescriptively speaking.
also lulzy: 언니 used to be used by men to other men which is why the korean graduation song has "졸업장을 타신 언니께"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37388171)
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:28 PM Author: bull headed base
Date: December 9th, 2018 11:45 PM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate
You've spent a total of what, 6-7 years in Korea, barely speak/understand the language and you claim to be an expert.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4033235&forum_id=2#37380666)
Claiming to be an expert in things he barely understands (or doesn't understand at all) is pretty much nyuug's entire posting style isn't it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386435) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:53 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
heres why you are a fucking moron
no one uses pronouns like that in everyday speech. unless youre writing an essay an actual korean speaker would combine the pronoun ending into one syllable
no one ITT has any idea what theyre talking about except devry and he just pretends his syntax elitism is the final word on fluency
its very lulzy bc he genuinely believes what he preaches
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386701) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:05 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
the point is literally no one ITT has any idea how good my korean actually is except for devry
devry also thinks paris is the nicest city in the world despite massive muzzie hordes and massive violent crime rates
make of that what you will lol
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386811) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:15 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
i could travel to paris tomorrow and say its a shithole and you guys would still say the same shit. whether i go and see it myself doesnt matter at all really
imagine if i had never visited oslo. i would say that country is fucked and you morons would say no oslo is first world and norway is awesome
thats actually one of the reasons i took a trip to europe so i could see with my own eyes how bad things are there and im very glad i did so i can tell you dummies that europe is completely fuckdd
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386862) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
think about how schwarzenegger sounds when he speaks english
does anyone say he doesnt have great english? when a non native english speaker moves to america its obvious he she isnt from america but as long as they speak it fluently no one really gives a shit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386636)
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
you simply dont know enough about korean to know anything about what youre talking about
a tilde has no equivalent in spoken korean. its a written convention
the extent of the korean ive posted is chats and lol@ if you think texting some club rat will involve complicated sentence structures. dude youre an idiot lol
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386739) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: Transparent Flatulent Patrolman
People have done it in Japanese and Mandarin, and Korean, while somewhat more difficult than both, isn't outrageously so.
This guy has written books on Korean grammar and literature and lived in Korea for about a decade. And this was while spending most of his time learning 20 or so other languages, instead of dedicating himself full time to Korean.
http://www.foreignlanguageexpertise.com/about.html
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386730) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:24 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
korean is an extremely easy language to master and easily the easiest out of CJK. anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron
devry is just a striverdork eltist who is absolutely insufferable about syntax
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386914) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
again you dont get the point that devrys standard of mastery is totally different from mine
ive fucked many white girls who speak perfectly fine korean - can hold a conversation with me - and devry would call them retards too (even a couple in oslo believe or not)
btw any actual korean speaker who has read some of the stuff ive posted in korean ITT automatically would know i have a very decent grasp of the language to say the kinds of things im saying the way im saying them
devry can deny this all he wants so ill let my korean speak for itself. theres enough korean speakers here to judge it for themselves and thats really my only concern here :)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386952) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:42 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
lamarcus will eventually find this thread and might chime in. even if he doesnt weve texted in korean so he knows whats up
theres a couple other posters and lurkers too so they can judge for themselves
btw sorry rsf but if what youre claiming about how i dont speak korean is true then im sure you wont have an issue with the stuff ive said ITT. 미리 dont get mad bruj!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387009) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:18 AM Author: Amethyst Area
korean is not more difficult than japanese lmao
assuming you're coming from the languages with a background in English, Japanese is more difficult. It's been established for decades that the FSI has more difficulty teaching Japanese than Korean to the diplomatic corps
Japanese is like a "cat 5+" to them and it's literally the only one
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387199) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:25 AM Author: Transparent Flatulent Patrolman
To learn at a high level, beyond the rather basic requirements of the FSI:
"Everyone I have ever met who has learned both Korean and Japanese agrees that their grammars are almost as similar as those of any two Romance languages, but that that of Japanese has been streamlined, while Korean remains comparatively much more complex.
I have made good progress in a number of other "difficult" or exotic languages such as Russian and Arabic. Compared to Korean, both of these languages are much easier, i.e., if you apply yourself well, consistently, and intelligently every day for a number of years, after a single handful you will be rather advanced. However, with Korean you will still be in a fog. I have studied scores of languages, and Korean is unquestionably the most difficult one I have ever encountered."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387233) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:34 AM Author: Transparent Flatulent Patrolman
"I got the term "streamlined" grammar from a doctoral student who had previously mastered Japanese and was engaged in a full scale comparative study of Korean, and though my own knowledge of Japanese is more limited, what he said immediately resonated, and was subsequently confirmed or seconded when I discussed it with a number of Korean linguists who knew Japanese and with one Japanese linguist who knew Korean. The point is this: the grammar of the two languages is amazingly similar given the fact that Western linguistics holds them to be genetically unrelated (Japanese and Koreans unquestioningly believe that they are related, largely because of this fact). However, and although Japanese is still quite complex and contains ample synonymous constructions, if you compare them on any specific point, you will almost surely find that Korean has more variants than Japanese, e.g., the conjunctive endings that verbs and adjectives can take in these languages, or the verb endings themselves: there may even be several hundred in use in Japanese, but there are certainly nowhere near the 600+ that can be attached to any given Korean verb. The feeling among all these linguists was that Japanese had probably had just as many until the fairly recent past, but that the developmental course of the history and society of the two countries in the past 150 years had caused the disparity. The Japanese language was regimented and thus "streamlined" along with the rest of the society, while the Korean language was not, was in fact even prohibited and fragmented by the occupation and partition of the country.
As to Hanja, I maintain absolutely that any serious student of Korean truly does need them. What do we mean by *need*? If you just want to converse, you obviously don't need to read at all. It is also true that you don't often encounter them in the modern literature or in letters that Korean friends might write to you or in the kind of informational brochure you might need to read at the airport. However, they are still omnipresent in the society. You cannot read a newspaper without them. You cannot read historical markers without them, let alone understand the signs and storefronts around town without them. Scholarly books in many disciplines employ them quite heavily, and older and classical literature is replete with them. More than this, though, the fact is that the etymology of Korean is 70% Hanja and so you can only understand why most words mean what they mean if you know Hanja. I recall that I myself hit my first wall or plateau in the leaning curve after a year or two in the country. Like most learners, I had neglected the study of Hanja to that point. As soon as I began memorizing the 1800 characters that all educated Koreans themselves are expected to know, my vocabularly and overall command immediately began to snowball. After you know even a portion of these Hanja, you can begin to figure out what new and previously unknown words mean from context, even when they are only written in Hangul, whereas without them you must have recourse to a dictionary. Thus yes, one does NEED Hanja in order to learn Korean well. "
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387271) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:00 PM Author: glittery gas station cuck
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37386767)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
그 병신 새끼의 뒤진 동생이라고 하는게 더 맞을걸요.
"병신새끼 돌아간 형/동생" 이라고 쓰면 헷갈림.
그리고 걔 형이 아니라 동생이 죽은걸로 아는데
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387121)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:17 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
1학년 수준인지는 모르겠으나 교포인건 확실.
이민자 2세 치고는 잘하는 편인건 맞는데, 교포티 확확 낸다고 볼수 있겠죠.
제 한국어 실력도 퇴화 되는 중이라 뭐라 할말 없긴 해도 저정도면 글쎄 직장이나 대학원에서 써먹기엔 좀 그런듯
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387191) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:23 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
The thing is I'm in no position to greatly criticize either since my Korean is really geared to
1. poasting on shit websites like dcinside
and
2. reading scholarly text & articles, columns and fiction but NOT writing
and
3. When I speak I'm in the uncanny valley where they realize I was born in Korea but isn't bad enough to pass as a clueless gyopo so nyuug's lack of Korean is actually much more suited for what he's aiming for, picking up FOB chicks. Which in linguistics really, is considered "fluent" if you can communicate & do what you meant to do -> i.e. he's not in KOrea to work as a writer or experience the 직장생활 but he's there to hit on korean girls.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387229) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:38 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
yeah but nobody phrases it like you did
일단 남 욕할때 형 쓰는건 이상하고
제대로 네이티브로 욕하려면 이래야죠
"병신새끼 돌아간 형"-> "뒤져버린 저 병신새끼 형/동생"
you modify the 형 with 뒤져버린 in the beginning to make it clearer
아니면
"저 병신새끼의 뒤진/뒤져버린 형/동생"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387285)
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:51 PM Author: filthy whorehouse
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 개털리네
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387067)
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:53 PM Author: Naked Legal Warrant
오 왔네? 사실대로 말하자 my nigga. youve heard devrys claims and youve heard mine
btw he thinks im not a korean citizen LOL
break it down for us nigga
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387074) |
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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:54 PM Author: filthy whorehouse
Your conversational Korean - pretty good for an AMerican born Korean.
Can't comment on your academic Korean.
You still display some foreigner shibboleths in your Korean.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387085)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:02 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
교포느낌 나긴 함.
You do display some Englishism in your Korean but is better than the average american born Korean.
Idk my Korean is in a weird place where i can read SCHOLARLY articles and some older text as well if I have a 한자 dictionary but my spoken KOrean is at a place where I'm not FOB enough to pass as 100% Korean & display some uncanny valley type of shit nor bad enough to pass as a clueless gyopo.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387116)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:19 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
Not really tbh
I know 2nd gen Korean Americans who went back to Korea who speak a bit worse than nyuug and he'd have 0 problem getting by day to day still
it'd be like a dude in the US w/ a strong foreign accent but still able to get by in a majority white area
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387208) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:32 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
tbf foreigners CAN use much bigger words than 1st graders yet still show some characteristics of a non-native speaker
but yeah the words he's used so far are basically elementary, although I would add that he typically writes like that in English as well so idk if it's a true reflection of his KOrean level.
BUt yes, for the most part he displays a certain foreign-ness in his Korean
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387261) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:42 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
Yeah but your CS server/4chan Korean displays a certain foreign-ness too tbh
거의 영어 욕/은어 직역한 느낌
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387298) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:48 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
한국어로 미국놈 욕할떄 왜 영어식 표현 씀?
그냥 "저 돼지새끼 동생 약쳐먹다 잘 뒤졌네" 하면 될걸 ㅋ
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387317) |
Date: December 11th, 2018 12:56 AM Author: bull headed base
So nyuug:
1. Not born in Korea
2. Can’t speak, read or write Korea
3. Never did his military service, which is required for citizenship
All of this right?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387349) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:59 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
1 is right
2 and 3 are wrong
hth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387354) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 1:05 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
able to speak it fluent enough in an "elementary" lvl doesn't mean he can't read & write either
3 is kidn of correct, but he grandfathered into a loophole into citizenship
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387365)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 2:10 AM Author: Titillating degenerate
Simple Q for nyuug that he can’t ignore or obfuscate past with his usual spam (although he will):
How many hanja characters do you know and can actively read/write?
You won’t have the balls to answer
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387466) |
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Date: December 12th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
Like i said, phased out of mandatory education since the 00s, and yes, it was up til like 97 or so that 조선 stopped carrying it.
Now guys that gun for SNU and shit yeah they have to pick up at least 1000 or so to be able to function academically.
Tbh it's probably the most useful in your field - KOrean legalese is basically just all Hanja (and most of the words are from the Japanese actually - a lot of the expressions were taken verbatim from the Japs during the occupation & most of the Western philosophical/legal words were first translated in Japan anyway in East Asia)
Still, I think we have different standards for "fluency"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37394595)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 5:06 AM Author: Cordovan stock car
Serious question tho:
Why do you guys give a crap about how good NYUUG's Korean is, or whether or not he is a citizen? Lots of scions of Korean conglomerate groups are non-Korean citizens (I can off the top of my head name 5 from the Hyundai and Samsung families) and their Korean typically suck (perfect speaking but very weak writing) since they did all their education abroad.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37387703) |
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Date: December 11th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Brilliant tank friendly grandma
Date: December 11th, 2018 11:50 AM
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NYUUG, how do you write "draft dodging scum" in Korean?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37389007)
Date: December 11th, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: nyuug
재봉 형
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37389183)
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Date: December 11th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: Cordovan stock car
Just for your reference, there are over a dozen news articles containing hanja on the front page of the major business newspaper in Korea with headlines like the below:
'`수소車시대` 선언…현대차 2022년 年 4만대 생산'
Ljl at getting by as a professional in Korea without a basic understanding of hanja and even bigger lul at understanding the culture/society without being able to read the news.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37392722) |
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Date: December 12th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: filthy whorehouse
Nah I'd believe him mostly
for 1 not many Koreans have the jacked look
for another being a foreigner is actually considered attractive
He's like the Ryan Howard of this shit just takes swings at every pitch and he'll still hit 50+ homers
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4153543&forum_id=2#37394950) |
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