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Date: January 14th, 2019 8:47 PM Author: flatulent knife
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/steve-king-house-judiciary-committee.html
Steve King Loses House Committee Seats Over White Supremacy Remark
Representative Steve King of Iowa left a meeting on Monday afternoon with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy on Capitol Hill.
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Representative Steve King of Iowa left a meeting on Monday afternoon with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy on Capitol Hill.CreditCreditAl Drago for The New York Times
By Trip Gabriel, Jonathan Martin and Nicholas Fandos
Jan. 14, 2019
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House Republican leaders removed Representative Steve King of Iowa from the Judiciary and Agriculture Committees on Monday night as party officials scrambled to appear tough on racism and contain damage from comments Mr. King made to The New York Times questioning why white supremacy is considered offensive.
The punishment came on a day when Mr. King was denounced by an array of Republican leaders, though not President Trump. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, suggested Mr. King find “another line of work” and Senator Mitt Romney said he should quit. And the House Republicans, in an attempt to be proactive, stripped him of the committee seats in the face of multiple Democratic resolutions to censure Mr. King that are being introduced this week.
Those measures would force Republicans to take a stand on the House Democratic majority’s attempt to publicly reprimand one of their own.
Mr. King, who has been an ally of President Trump on the border wall and other issues, has a long history of making racist remarks and insults about immigrants, but rarely drew rebukes from Republican leaders in Washington and Iowa. In November, top Iowa Republicans like Senator Charles E. Grassley endorsed Mr. King for re-election even after a House Republican denounced him as a white supremacist.
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But in an interview with The Times published last week, Mr. King said: “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”
Speaking to reporters on Monday night after the House Republican leadership team acted, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader, said he was not ruling out supporting a censure or reprimand resolution against Mr. King. He said the Republicans are not removing Mr. King from the G.O.P. House conference itself, so he can still attend its party meetings, and it was up to Iowans whether Mr. King should stay in office.
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“This is not the first time we’ve heard these comments,” Mr. McCarthy said of Mr. King, an acknowledgment of the racist language the congressman has used before. “That is not the party of Lincoln and it’s definitely not American.”
Mr. McCarthy, who conferred privately with Mr. King for an hour before the vote, did not say why the most recent comments were a breaking point given Mr. King’s long public record of similar remarks. “Maybe I did not see those, but I disagree with these.”
Mr. King remained defiant after losing his committee seats, releasing a long statement insisting that his comments in the Times article had been misunderstood. He had been referring only to “western civilization” when he asked “how did that language become offensive,” not “white nationalist” or “white supremacist.”
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“Leader McCarthy’s decision to remove me from committees is a political decision that ignores the truth,” he said.
He said he told Mr. McCarthy, “You have to do what you have to do and I will do what I have to do.” He pledged to continue to “point out the truth” and serve his district for “at least the next two years.”
The scramble to condemn Mr. King also illustrated how alarmed senior Republicans are about the party’s image just two months after they lost 40 House seats, most of them in suburban or diverse districts — including seven in Mr. McCarthy’s home state of California, where the G.O.P. is on the brink of extinction.
But Republicans’ pointed criticism of a single House lawmaker was striking because of what they have tolerated from the leader of their party.
The condemnations of Mr. King stood in stark contrast to the lawmakers’ willingness to tolerate President Trump’s frequent offensive and insensitive remarks about migrants, black people, Native Americans and others minorities.
Just last week, the president used the Oval Office to unleash a blistering assault on undocumented immigrants, portraying them as criminals in a fashion that harkened back to an earlier era of American politics but rarely heard from a president in modern times. And on Sunday night, Mr. Trump invoked the Wounded Knee massacre of hundreds of Native Americans as an attempt to joke about Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.
“I’m glad that they are finally taking action after all of these years of Steve King slandering immigrants and Hispanics, but the president of the United States is also doing that and he just said something about Elizabeth Warren a few evenings ago that was also racially ugly and we haven’t heard a word of condemnation from anyone in the Republican Party about that,” said Representative Joaquin Castro, Democrat of Texas.
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Congressional Republicans have continued to embrace the president and his hard-line immigration politics, averting their gaze from his inflammatory rhetoric out of fear their core voters will punish them if they stray from Mr. Trump.
One person withholding criticism of Mr. King was President Trump. When asked by reporters on Monday about the furor over Mr. King’s remarks, Mr. Trump said, “I haven’t been following it.”
Republicans are now trying to get ahead of a fast-moving political problem while the country is in the midst of a lengthy government shutdown over a border wall by President Trump, who in many ways patterned his immigration policies and rhetoric on those of Mr. King.
Mr. McCarthy called a special meeting of the Republican Steering Committee to remove Mr. King from Judiciary — which has jurisdiction over immigration, voting rights and impeachment — and Agriculture, which is a prized committee for Iowans. Mr. King also lost his seat on the Small Business Committee. The steering committee vote was unanimous.
While Republican officials quickly turned on Mr. King, the party also came in for criticism from the Senate’s lone black Republican, Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina. He noted that the G.O.P. has long remained silent in the face of racist comments.
“Some in our party wonder why Republicans are constantly accused of racism — it is because of our silence when things like this are said,” Mr. Scott wrote in a Washington Post opinion column.
It is not clear what, if any, additional steps congressional Republican leaders will take with Mr. King. The National Republican Congressional Committee indicated Monday that they were not ready to step away from him.
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“The N.R.C.C. does not get involved in primaries and isn’t going to comment on a hypothetical general election two years away,” said Chris Pack, a spokesman for the House campaign arm.
Democrats are moving to censure or reprimand the Iowa congressman, a stinging penalty. Among them were Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest ranking African-American in Congress, who introduced a measure Monday night in the form of a resolution of disapproval of Mr. King’s comments and white nationalism.
Democratic leaders in the House have yet to say what they will do with the competing censure resolutions, but are inclined to allow a vote of some sort related to Mr. King’s remarks, according to one senior Democratic aide.
In the interview with The Times, Mr. King also reflected on the record number of minorities and women in the new Democratic-controlled House. “You could look over there and think the Democratic Party is no country for white men,” he said.
Mr. King’s hard-line immigration policies and demeaning comments about Hispanics foreshadowed Mr. Trump’s nativist rhetoric in his 2016 campaign, in his two years in the White House and during the government shutdown over a border wall. The president once boasted to Mr. King that he raised more money for him than anyone else, Mr. King recalled in the Times article, which traced how the Iowa congressman helped write the playbook for white identity politics that dominate the Republican Party under Mr. Trump.
He has already drawn one serious primary opponent, state senator Randy Feenstra, for the 2020 campaign and some high-profile Republicans have indicated they will not embrace his re-election.
“It does open the door for other individuals to take a look,” Gov. Kim Reynolds of Iowa said in a television interview last week of Mr. King’s closer-than-expected victory last year.
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Ms. Reynolds said she was staying out of the primary “right now,” but multiple Iowa Republicans said the state’s senior elected officials were unlikely to endorse Mr. King again and would wait until there is more clarity in the primary field before rallying to one of his G.O.P. challengers. Other Western Iowa Republicans are expected to challenge Mr. King, who has fended off primaries before but did so with the support of his party and its top leaders.
In addition to Ms. Reynolds’s criticism, Iowa Republican chair Jeff Kaufmann said the state party would “remain neutral” in Mr. King’s primary.
Also, Iowa’s two Republican senators, Mr. Grassley and Joni Ernst, along with Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who had appointed Mr. King a co-chairman of his 2016 presidential campaign, all rebuked Mr. King in recent days.
All had eagerly embraced him in the past because of his standing with the state’s most conservative voters — keys to winning statewide elections in Iowa, which holds the first-in-the-nation presidential nominating contest.
Mr. Grassley had endorsed Mr. King in November for re-election, even after the chairman of the House Republican election committee denounced Mr. King as a white supremacist.
“Iowa needs Steve King in Congress,” Mr. Grassley said in that endorsement. “I also need Steve King in Congress.”
Ms. Ernst, who faces re-election in 2020, appeared with Mr. King at a rally in his district the Monday before Election Day last year, after he had endorsed a Toronto mayoral candidate with neo-Nazi ties.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37592205) |
Date: January 14th, 2019 8:50 PM Author: Saffron crusty pit bbw
Looks like 2020 may well be the last time I vote Republican.
A choice between white-hating Dems and worthless cuckservatives means I sit out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37592228) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 11:25 AM Author: Titillating gas station nowag
Do you really have lexicographic preferences for immigration and demographic issues? If we're going to be invaded - I'd at least appreciate it if the cuckservatives could stop the invaders from stealing all our money through tax increases that the dems will push through.
Most people don't realize the scary thing about the Dems - with all their talk - do we really think the wealthy in this country are at risk of being heavily taxed? Are the Dems gonna financially rape their donors?
Or are they gonna turn to the UMC / professional classes - and rape us instead.
I think if you hold conservative values to any degree - by necessity immigration and demographics has to be priority #1 because without action on this issue all the other issues to washed away in a brown tide eventually anyways. But if I can at least avoid working for my invaders too (via tax redistribution) - I would appreciate that.
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Date: January 15th, 2019 2:28 PM Author: frozen ticket booth alpha
"challenge political correctness"
you mean be BLATANTLY racist and play dumb when someone calls them out on it?
Yeah...how well has that worked out?
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Date: January 14th, 2019 9:18 PM Author: smoky cracking center
Romney calls on Steve King to resign after comments on white supremacy
Newly-elected Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) on Monday called for conservative Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) to resign from the House because of his remarks questioning whether white supremacy is "offensive."
“I think he ought to step aside and I think Congress ought to make it very clear he has no place there,” Romney told CNN’s Manu Raju on Monday.
A spokeswoman for Romney confirmed the statement.
Romney later told a group of reporters that “Steve King’s comments are reprehensible.”
He said King “ought to resign and move on and let someone else who represents American values take his seat,” adding “he should find a different line of work."
Romney is the latest high-profile Republican voice to condemn King’s comments made in an interview with The New York Times in which he said, “white nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”
“Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and civilization?” he said.
King later issued a statement saying that while he is a “nationalist” who supports “western civilization’s values” and he does not endorse “white nationalism and white supremacy.”
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) in a statement Monday said he has “no tolerance for such positions and those who espouse these views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms.”
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) says he may punish King by revoking his committee assignments.
″That language has no place in America,” McCarthy said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday. “That is not the America that I know. And it’s most definitely not the party of Lincoln.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425308-romney-calls-on-steve-king-to-resign-after-white-supremacist-comment
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Date: January 14th, 2019 9:24 PM Author: Red cerebral crackhouse
i'm still at a loss to explain this type of cuckery.
i guess the best explanation remains that Boomers truly do live in "Eternal 1965", or Eternal 1985, wherein the white population is perpetually 90%. they literally cannot internalize the fact that the world has changed, that whites are no longer the gracious Hegemon that must eschew open declarations of solidarity out of a sense of decorum/good taste, etc.
they cannot comprehend the reality that whites, far from being hegemonic, are now under siege, on the run.
either that, or the Mitt Romneys of the world are explicit agents of white genocide, which is even more difficult to comprehend...
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Date: January 15th, 2019 2:25 PM Author: Titillating gas station nowag
I agree that strategically, expelling King is stupid because it admits fault. And Trump has taught us a clear lesson how apologizing is just admitting fault and giving your opponents the scent of blood in the water, and blows it up into more of an issue because now there's all these legitimized articles about King being expelled AND/BECUASE he said these things.... so the media gets to write more stories doubling back their focus on his remarks - it's retarded strategically.
But surely King saying this in the first place is stupid? The way you do this is how Trump is doing this - create national media frenzies that focus on these issues that people are forced to talk about. You can't jump right to "what's so wrong with being a white supremacist"?
He should have left out the word supremacist tbh
edit: to be clear it's fully retarded to expel him from those positions for a phrase or two. I just think the "supremacy" part specifically was stupid to say, knowing how the media will take it out of context.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37596629) |
Date: January 14th, 2019 9:24 PM Author: rough-skinned mustard reading party
Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark.
Now they learn why they fear the night.
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Date: January 14th, 2019 9:25 PM Author: Saffron crusty pit bbw
But in an interview with The Times published last week, Mr. King said: “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”
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The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, suggested Mr. King find “another line of work”
The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, suggested Mr. King find “another line of work”
The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, suggested Mr. King find “another line of work”
The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, suggested Mr. King find “another line of work”
The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, suggested Mr. King find “another line of work”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37592460) |
Date: January 14th, 2019 9:27 PM Author: Spruce parlor mad-dog skullcap
“That is not the party of Lincoln and it’s definitely not American.”
Ah ...
“I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.”
—Abraham Lincoln
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Date: January 14th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: passionate spot crotch
"Just last week, the president used the Oval Office to unleash a blistering assault on undocumented immigrants, portraying them as criminals in a fashion that harkened back to an earlier era of American politics but rarely heard from a president in modern times."
Was there a part of that speech that I missed?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37592887) |
Date: January 14th, 2019 11:42 PM Author: lascivious slate coldplay fan temple
“We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.”
Steve King
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37593378) |
Date: January 14th, 2019 11:46 PM Author: lascivious slate coldplay fan temple
Steve King’s response:
https://twitter.com/stevekingia/status/1084992347178520576
He’s right, the NYT slimed him by taking his quote out of context and the republicucks jumped on the gang pile.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4177816&forum_id=2#37593400) |
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Date: January 15th, 2019 8:36 AM Author: flatulent knife
literally what hillary said after the pussytape
COOPER: Thank you, Mr. Trump. The question from Patrice was about are you both modeling positive and appropriate behavior for today’s youth? We received a lot of questions online, Mr. Trump, about the tape that was released on Friday, as you can imagine. You called what you said locker room banter. You described kissing women without consent, grabbing their genitals. That is sexual assault. You bragged that you have sexually assaulted women. Do you understand that?
TRUMP: No, I didn’t say that at all. I don’t think you understood what was — this was locker room talk. I’m not proud of it. I apologize to my family. I apologize to the American people. Certainly I’m not proud of it. But this is locker room talk.
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You know, when we have a world where you have ISIS chopping off heads, where you have — and, frankly, drowning people in steel cages, where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over, where you have so many bad things happening, this is like medieval times. We haven’t seen anything like this, the carnage all over the world.
And they look and they see. Can you imagine the people that are, frankly, doing so well against us with ISIS? And they look at our country and they see what’s going on.
Yes, I’m very embarrassed by it. I hate it. But it’s locker room talk, and it’s one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS. We’re going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. And I will tell you, I will take care of ISIS.
COOPER: So, Mr. Trump...
TRUMP: And we should get on to much more important things and much bigger things.
COOPER: Just for the record, though, are you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago that you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent?
TRUMP: I have great respect for women. Nobody has more respect for women than I do.
COOPER: So, for the record, you’re saying you never did that?
TRUMP: I’ve said things that, frankly, you hear these things I said. And I was embarrassed by it. But I have tremendous respect for women.
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COOPER: Have you ever done those things?
TRUMP: And women have respect for me. And I will tell you: No, I have not. And I will tell you that I’m going to make our country safe. We’re going to have borders in our country, which we don’t have now. People are pouring into our country, and they’re coming in from the Middle East and other places.
We’re going to make America safe again. We’re going to make America great again, but we’re going to make America safe again. And we’re going to make America wealthy again, because if you don’t do that, it just — it sounds harsh to say, but we have to build up the wealth of our nation.
COOPER: Thank you, Mr. Trump.
TRUMP: Right now, other nations are taking our jobs and they’re taking our wealth.
COOPER: Thank you, Mr. Trump.
TRUMP: And that’s what I want to talk about.
COOPER: Secretary Clinton, do you want to respond?
CLINTON: Well, like everyone else, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw. You know, with prior Republican nominees for president, I disagreed with them on politics, policies, principles, but I never questioned their fitness to serve.
Donald Trump is different. I said starting back in June that he was not fit to be president and commander-in-chief. And many Republicans and independents have said the same thing. What we all saw and heard on Friday was Donald talking about women, what he thinks about women, what he does to women. And he has said that the video doesn’t represent who he is.
But I think it’s clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. Because we’ve seen this throughout the campaign. We have seen him insult women. We’ve seen him rate women on their appearance, ranking them from one to ten. We’ve seen him embarrass women on TV and on Twitter. We saw him after the first debate spend nearly a week denigrating a former Miss Universe in the harshest, most personal terms.
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So, yes, this is who Donald Trump is. But it’s not only women, and it’s not only this video that raises questions about his fitness to be our president, because he has also targeted immigrants, African- Americans, Latinos, people with disabilities, POWs, Muslims, and so many others.
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.
CLINTON: These are very important values to me, because this is the America that I know and love. And I can pledge to you tonight that this is the America that I will serve if I’m so fortunate enough to become your president.
RADDATZ: And we want to get to some questions from online...
TRUMP: Am I allowed to respond to that? I assume I am.
RADDATZ: Yes, you can respond to that.
TRUMP: It’s just words, folks. It’s just words. Those words, I’ve been hearing them for many years. I heard them when they were running for the Senate in New York, where Hillary was going to bring back jobs to upstate New York and she failed.
I’ve heard them where Hillary is constantly talking about the inner cities of our country, which are a disaster education-wise, jobwise, safety-wise, in every way possible. I’m going to help the African-Americans. I’m going to help the Latinos, Hispanics. I am going to help the inner cities.
She’s done a terrible job for the African-Americans. She wants their vote, and she does nothing, and then she comes back four years later. We saw that firsthand when she was United States senator. She campaigned where the primary part of her campaign...
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RADDATZ: Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump — I want to get to audience questions and online questions.
TRUMP: So, she’s allowed to do that, but I’m not allowed to respond?
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RADDATZ: You’re going to have — you’re going to get to respond right now.
TRUMP: Sounds fair.
RADDATZ: This tape is generating intense interest. In just 48 hours, it’s become the single most talked about story of the entire 2016 election on Facebook, with millions and millions of people discussing it on the social network. As we said a moment ago, we do want to bring in questions from voters around country via social media, and our first stays on this topic. Jeff from Ohio asks on Facebook, “Trump says the campaign has changed him. When did that happen?” So, Mr. Trump, let me add to that. When you walked off that bus at age 59, were you a different man or did that behavior continue until just recently? And you have two minutes for this.
TRUMP: It was locker room talk, as I told you. That was locker room talk. I’m not proud of it. I am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, for the people of this country. And certainly, I’m not proud of it. But that was something that happened.
If you look at Bill Clinton, far worse. Mine are words, and his was action. His was what he’s done to women. There’s never been anybody in the history politics in this nation that’s been so abusive to women. So you can say any way you want to say it, but Bill Clinton was abusive to women.
Hillary Clinton attacked those same women and attacked them viciously. Four of them here tonight. One of the women, who is a wonderful woman, at 12 years old, was raped at 12. Her client she represented got him off, and she’s seen laughing on two separate occasions, laughing at the girl who was raped. Kathy Shelton, that young woman is here with us tonight.
So don’t tell me about words. I am absolutely — I apologize for those words. But it is things that people say. But what President Clinton did, he was impeached, he lost his license to practice law. He had to pay an $850,000 fine to one of the women. Paula Jones, who’s also here tonight.
And I will tell you that when Hillary brings up a point like that and she talks about words that I said 11 years ago, I think it’s disgraceful, and I think she should be ashamed of herself, if you want to know the truth.
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RADDATZ: Can we please hold the applause? Secretary Clinton, you have two minutes.
CLINTON: Well, first, let me start by saying that so much of what he’s just said is not right, but he gets to run his campaign any way he chooses. He gets to decide what he wants to talk about. Instead of answering people’s questions, talking about our agenda, laying out the plans that we have that we think can make a better life and a better country, that’s his choice.
When I hear something like that, I am reminded of what my friend, Michelle Obama, advised us all: When they go low, you go high.
(APPLAUSE) And, look, if this were just about one video, maybe what he’s saying tonight would be understandable, but everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point about whether or not the man in the video or the man on the stage respects women. But he never apologizes for anything to anyone.
CLINTON: He never apologized to Mr. and Mrs. Khan, the Gold Star family whose son, Captain Khan, died in the line of duty in Iraq. And Donald insulted and attacked them for weeks over their religion.
He never apologized to the distinguished federal judge who was born in Indiana, but Donald said he couldn’t be trusted to be a judge because his parents were, quote, “Mexican.”
He never apologized to the reporter that he mimicked and mocked on national television and our children were watching. And he never apologized for the racist lie that President Obama was not born in the United States of America. He owes the president an apology, he owes our country an apology, and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and his words.
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Date: January 15th, 2019 11:36 AM Author: appetizing very tactful station party of the first part
To achieve that, you would need to upend the entire social structure of the country and give massive welfare to "law-abiding citizens."
This goes against every GOP principle since their founding.
People have fewer kids because it takes longer and requires more credentialing to have stable work.
This also misses the fact that working class whites hate slightly poorer whites. They think of them as undeserving takers (similar to how they think of "undeserving minorities").
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