Who does XO think will actually fight in a civil war
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:32 PM Author: cocky obsidian trump supporter
US military command: deep state or anti-populist to the man
Rank and file: many minorities or white people who are grateful for benefits military service and employment provides, including the COLLEGE Ed that XO despises
Rural gun hoarders are going to stay in their towns and farms, they’re not going to the coastal cities to get blown up by drones or get stuck in traffic. Most will support the troops no matter what even if many are black and brown (2A Oath Keepers type idolize institutions like THE CORPS and cops without regard for actual demographics)
Libs will do nothing but blog and Tweet. Same as neoreactionaries and most alt-right leaders
Dumbass antifa and MAGA Proud Boys having street scuffles with no fatalities do not count as civil war, you drama queens
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4184078&forum_id=2#37642043)
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:45 PM Author: cocky obsidian trump supporter
What divide is this even. Border control? Gay marriage? Estate tax policy?
Both sides still shop on Amazon and watch America’s Got Talent, consumerism has seen that they all share the same culture at the end of the day.
You’re suggesting that militarism is growing when the empire is receding, pulling troops out from Syria and Afghanistan. Yeah those vets who spent time dodging bullets in Kandahar really want to fight a war at home when peace is at hand, get real
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:04 PM Author: appetizing unhinged casino fanboi
reluctantly agree. once full-blown SJWs (AOC) take over the government, they'll enforce reparations. they'll send whites to Diversity Camps where they will be forced to undergo Sensitivity Training.
since denying privilege is actually violence to black, brown, and LGBTQ bodies, this Privilege Training will be enforced by physical punishment if necessary.
get guns
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:41 PM Author: Domesticated translucent house
Libs would get destroyed because they predominantly live in cities.
Cons will take out the roads and prevent supplies from getting in, and people will quickly starve.
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:13 AM Author: Azure curious shrine
the side that controls the military will win. Right now I am not confident that Trump is in control of anything, given how he is undermined by republicucks and deep staters everywhere.
Leftists have no reason to start an insurrection or attempt secession because they are in control of the government and media. It's the right's move to play. They need to keep fighting the propaganda war and win there. An insurrection or secession attempt will not play well at this time, far too early. It would demonized by the media betrayed by cucks.
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:37 PM Author: Alcoholic big milk theater
like all civil wars the outcome will depend on the region.
the northeast corridor will remain intact and safe like damascus has during the entire syrian conflict.
the rest will be about how willing the northeast and dc is to use military force and for how long over how large of the country.
(assuming not a legit coupe takeover where some infantry major general tries to take over NYC)
but lol if you think even the ones who would fight will be willing to carry it on for years in the face of military policed zones. we arent jihadists. there are only a couple of regions in this country with the will and true disgruntledness to fight the necessary fight to actually break away from the union.
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:38 PM Author: fiercely-loyal beta library affirmative action
it will be a peaceful secession FIRST, into some northern enclave of the US, comprising some of the northern states maybe.
but once white ppl all move to one region of the US and establish borders, the natural law of migration will take effect: Wherever The White People Are, Everyone Else Will Follow and Insist Upon Living Among the 'Racist' Whites.
at which point, the 'civil war' will be initiated as a DEFENSIVE action.
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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:41 PM Author: offensive dragon
Race_War_of_2019
MAGA crusaders wearing Fallout armor establish a beachhead position in San Fran. Despite being armed with impressively realistic airsoft guns, MAGA troops fail to gain ground and are quickly repelled by Black Israelite insults.
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:12 AM Author: Charismatic Blathering Gas Station
This thread is kind of odd. A lot of wishful thinking and fantasy, one of which is that this is being prepared and is "hard truths, tough guy" thinking.
The comments here sound like a bunch of stereotypes bandied around about "bearded, gun-loving prepper" vs left-wing soyboy. Does anyone think that if a real civil war broke out, that leftists would even rely on soyboys and cat ladies to do the fighting?
A comment above was spot on about how in 1960s, the French they thought the Vietnamese were obedient and an asset of the Republic. No one could believe that those "little men in black pajamas" could defeat the French, let alone the US. The French in the early stages of the war thought also that they just had to show up with their first world army, slap around the Viets a bit, and that this independence thing would go away. If there was an actual shooting war (which thankfully, probably wont happen), there would be millions of third worlders fighting on behalf of leftists. As bad-ass as the right like to think they are, there's a certain quality in quantity. Furthermore, don't underestimate the capabilities of third worlders. A lot of Latin Americans have essentially been fighting a kind of civil war in their countries (i.e., the Drug War in Mexico). They've gotten quite creative and resourceful in how they conduct themselves. I could see leftists turning to straight up gangs and other "bad dudes" to do the fighting for them in exchange for concessions like political recognition if they win. Right wingers might find that if the shit hits the fan they might be on the wrong side of the learning curve for awhile.
Furthermore, people here underestimate the # of left-wingers in the US military as well. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/13/6-facts-about-the-u-s-military-and-its-changing-demographics/
Demographically, about 40% of the military is a minority.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/10/17/troops-see-rising-political-tension-in-the-ranks-poll-shows/
50% of female troops are Democrats, 23% male (with 20% "independent"). Now you could say the majority of combat troops or whatever are die-hard Republicans who would die for some white nationalist America (or whatever you think is the political goal here that people would die for). Don't underestimate the importance of support and logistics in war.
Furthermore, if majority white (and far more conservative and openly racist America) could not sack up to angry minorities in the past, what makes you think that they'd do so now? The right wing guy of today is not as "badass" as the dudes from before as well who typically had a much tougher upbringing, with a higher proportion performing military training, etc.
Finally, foreign influence - a white nationalist civil war against predominately minorities will not make America look good. Every country out there, who have the balls to fight (i.e., not the traditional allies of the US, countries like the EU), will support these leftists. A divided, coastal vs the interior America would be an incredible opportunity for these countries to get in part of the action, if only to completely destroy a geopolitical opponent (i.e., Russia). America would be totally destroyed as a serious contender for a generation, if not more.
The best hope for a traditional America would be to achieve the political goals of reducing immigration, establish a sustainable conservative political and social environment through things like trying to revive industries like manufacturing, raising the birth rate of whites, etc.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4184078&forum_id=2#37645648)
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:47 AM Author: vibrant university double fault
This is stupid and wrong on many levels.
The French did not think the Vietnamese were stupid compliant losers wearing black pajamas. The Vietnamese had been engaged in guerilla warfare for decades before 1960, most recently with the French and before that the Japanese and the Chinese before that.
The battle of Dien Bien Phu occured in 1954 and by then French colonial was effectively over with the complete collapse of French military forces. But even before 1954, since the end of WWII and Japanese withdrawal the Vietnamese were engaged in guerilla warfare against the French and the French knew they were in a hopeless fight, but stuck it out for reason's of national pride and maintaining one of their last overseas colonies.
The 23% male or 50% female being democrat is complete hogwash. The military does not keep track of political affiliations, and what little data exists are typically informal surveys by like the Army Times or whatnot of a limited sample size. Interestingly, a Military Times survey showed that Democrats among those polled decreased from 14% to 8% from 2006 to 2014.
The military is vastly right leaning and from ARE country and will NEVER follow a liberal into combat against their fellow Americans. They would however HAPPILY follow a conservative into combat against purple haired ANTFIA types.
Logistics and supply chain would be critical, but whoever controls the military can control food sources and gas and factories. A single tank together with an infantry squad can hold off a mob of thousands.
The liberals would have literally nothing to fight back with, and would likely resort to current ANTIFA tactics by engaging in riots, protests and general destruction of public and private property. It would be impossible for the military to police all this destruction, which would lead to private citizens taking matters into their own hands.
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 4:02 AM Author: mauve parlor
About 3% actually fought in the American revolution. It does not take that many people to start an insurrection. The US has largely avoided the type of civil war/revolution/coups that have plagued much of the world in the not so distant past. It also has largely avoided the type of targeted rebellion that even Western European countries have had (e.g. IRA). Why? Who knows? Good economy? Good survailence? Remember the militia movement of the 90s? The radical liberals in the 70s? What would happen today if we had similar types of attacks? What if they had widespread support? Look at the impact of 9/11 on society. What if instead of rioting and breaking windows the ANTIFA started bombing things? Would the government crack down? Would that gain ANTIFA more supporters? What if the next election really is rigged? This seems a lot less far fetched than before. What if a Bush/Gore situation happened between TRUMP and an ultralib? Would the losing side accept the outcome? The answer to all of these scenarios is that everything will probably work itself out, but if you layer on an economic crisis, that’s a whole different story. Or an outside attack to destabilize the country — one nuke or a series of 9/11 style coordinated attacks. Think post-Katrina on a national scale. How does that end?
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 7:55 AM Author: Flirting New Version Sanctuary
Remember that militarized group of antifa soyboys and femmes who bravely stormed that gay rehabilitation clinic and freed all those prisoners of the homophobic patriarchy?
Oh wait I was thinking of that bunch of insane right wing militias supporting a redneck farmer named Bundy and staging a literal armed uprising against the state police, FBI and bureau of land management to rescue a bunch of fucking CATTLE.
LJL at shitlibs ever doing anything other than breaking an occasional Starbucks window.
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