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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:04 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall I’m a first year and I’m probably screwed if I don’t change everything about the way I operate. I sit around in my office and probably do about 8 hours of work a week on a good week. My work product and timeliness is consistent with that work ethic.
Shrinks have diagnosed me with ADHD at various stages of my life ever since I was in second grade. Meds don’t work for me (I’ve been given Wellbutrin, adderall, Ritalin, vyvanse, and even modafinil). I did poorly in high school because I could never get all the reams of bullshit assignments done, but was fine in undergrad because I had a chip on my shoulder and chose easy classes where the grades were based on a handful of assignments. Didn’t do jack shit in law school because of the H/P system.
No matter how big or small the assignment, I don’t feel the pressure that compels me to start until the eleventh hour. It seems like I’m going to blow multiple deadlines pretty soon with the amount of work I’ve been assigned recently. The odd part is that I genuinely enjoy the nature of work in my practice area, but that’s not enough to get me to start anything.
Taking advice and/or abuse. Sorry for the TLSesque post, not a copy and paste but I thought about posting there. Thought I’d find more kindred spirits here. |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 8:29 AM Author: Hyperventilating Chocolate Locus Kitty Cat You’re mentally ill just like I was. Go and seek a complete reboot or you’re done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673876) |
Date: February 12th, 2019 11:05 AM Author: onyx generalized bond heaven How did you get registered on autoadmit
What do you spend your time doing instead of working |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:05 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall I’ve lurked here since 2007
Stare into empty space and refresh the same cycle of websites for updates. I rarely browse xo, surprisingly |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:05 AM Author: Zippy maize national I'm at work right now but email me - xoentlaw@gmail.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769114) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:06 AM Author: onyx generalized bond heaven Do you have job opening or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769125) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:11 AM Author: Zippy maize national No, lol. But most of it is conditioning and having never developed the necessary coping mechanisms.
I always did well enough on tests that I got through to LS fine. LS and practicing are a different matter though, so you're going to have to work twice as hard or risk losing your job. |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:07 AM Author: Zippy maize national I was diagnosed during LS. Have found a way to make it work both on and off meds. Sounds like a combination of CBT and meds should help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769136) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:12 AM Author: onyx generalized bond heaven describe how CBT helped
this whole bort suffers from exact same problem as OP so why are you hoarding advice. I'm a big fan btw |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:19 AM Author: Zippy maize national I didn't have time for CBT lol but that's what everyone says to ppl with adhd. And if you're not responding to meds well, it's partly behavioral.
I've been working on that shit in my own way on my own, though. To help keep motivated I break shit down into smaller tasks and reward myself. Not the healthiest, but it's effective. Cigarettes, alcohol, weed, etc...at the heart of it ADHD is a dopamine disorder, so you gotta feed the beast if you're going to get anything done.
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:21 AM Author: Zippy maize national This dude, Russel Barkley is one of the leading scholars. A lot of his lectures are on Youtube and really hit the nail on the head.
Suggest adhders here watch some of these videos - https://youtu.be/_tpB-B8BXk0 |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:33 AM Author: multi-colored center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769295) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 3:39 PM Author: Passionate fanboi great stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37771143) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:10 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Thank, will do. I appreciate it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769151) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:12 AM Author: Zippy maize national No problem. Just to let you know, we chose prob the worst profession to have adhd in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769169) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:54 AM Author: Excitant skinny woman SHARE THE SCHOLARSHIP BROTHER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769449) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 2:28 PM Author: heady blood rage keepsake machete Why can't you poast ur advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38675580) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:06 AM Author: motley cruise ship If u find the answer let me know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769124) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:06 AM Author: onyx generalized bond heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769128) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:13 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769176) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:38 AM Author: Slimy bawdyhouse How many hours have you billed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769340) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall I’m not close to meeting hours and that’s probably why I was suddenly flooded with assignments these past two weeks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769480) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:43 AM Author: Transparent Stirring Goyim Church Building You literally have to Principal Skinner it, break it up into little segments and try to break your record, and do what the dude says above and give yourself little rewards at various increments. You set a goal to work for 10 minutes straight and then you reward yourself with 10 minutes of fucking around time. Literally set timers. Then go for 15/15. Then try to do 20/10, 30/15, 40/20, 45/15. By the time you're able to do 50/10 and stick with that you're basically a normal person.
Also try to pick rewards that aren't hard to detach from. E.g. I can't use autoadmit, but looking at ESPN is great because I usually can't read it for more than 10 minutes before I see something that pisses me off anyway, so when the time goes off I have no problem xing out. |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:53 AM Author: Zippy maize national This dude is right. I used to smoke a pack a day, but I've cut down to only at work. For the most part, I take a short smoke break every hour....try to get that email out or finish that draft before the hour is up. Smoke, pick a new task and get that done before the next hour. Rinse and repeat. I've stopped smoking outside the office unless im out drinking or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769436) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Thanks, the way you phrase this actually makes normalcy sound realistic to achieve, which gave me a moment of relief. I’ve tried the pomodoro method with more breaks than recommended and enjoyed some success. But I’ve probably only used it for ~5 hours total in my life. Should try that again ASAP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769510) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: Transparent Stirring Goyim Church Building You are normal if you don't need a shitload of Adderall to be able to read a book. Survive biglaw for 3 years and go in-house and enjoy a career as a corporate slave that can fuck around at work sometimes and no one minds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769562) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: Flatulent Ocher Mad-dog Skullcap titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775778) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 2:33 PM Author: heady blood rage keepsake machete It's called POMODORO and yes it's effective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38675604) |
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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:53 AM Author: racy lake public bath becky There are like 15 checks and balances on biglaw first year associates. Your secretary is trusted to do more critical shit then you. Just go painstakingly slowly, do your best and use the dbg billing method and you’ll survive 3 years. After that find something else to do with your life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37769437) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:15 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Just looked at my time tracker and felt a wave of anxiety because I haven’t billed my time for the past two weeks and have two weeks of nothingness in January where I sat around. On top of that I haven’t started something I said I would finish yesterday, which will take more than a day.
Should I talk to somebody at the firm about this? I think many of my law school classmates turn to friends from their summer class for a source of support. Without getting into too many details, I don’t have that and it’s not my fault that I don’t.
Don’t know what to do. I’d take time off without pay until I figured this out if I could, but I realize that’s unlikely to be an option. |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:40 AM Author: onyx generalized bond heaven What do you spend all day doing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775674) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:53 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall I pull up the work I need to do. Spend maybe 30 seconds concentrating before I find that I’ve been staring into empty space for an hour. Sometimes I break off the spacing out by reading and rereading the same article on a news site over and over again. I refresh my personal email constantly even though I never get anything worth reading. The stuff that is worth reading like overdue bills doesn’t get fixed and my electricity actually cut off the other day. I remember some person I met years ago and look them up on Facebook. Check the box score for last nights games even though it’s my 10th time looking at it for that day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775744) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:50 AM Author: Zippy maize national Honestly I'd keep it as close to the chest as possible. Do you have a psychiatrist? If not make an appointment today. If you're in LA I can give you a referral if you don't have anyone else to go to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775732) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:54 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Not in LA. I usually get determined to go for a while before I ghost them after 3-4 sessions. Happens about once a year.
Yeah I think I’m going to need to book an appt |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Zippy maize national No. Book it right now. Make the call.
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:34 PM Author: Zippy maize national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776317) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Appreciate this. I’m in a new city and have new insurance, so I’ll have to look up my options tonight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776386) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 2:16 PM Author: Zippy maize national I'll politely remind you tomorrow. Follow through tonight bro. All of it can be worked out, just gotta take the first steps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776544) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 3:29 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall K I booked an appointment with a psychiatrist who seems like a good dood. Thanks for pushing on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776878) |
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Date: February 14th, 2019 5:15 AM Author: Zippy maize national Happy for you bro. Good luck, but rest assured you'll get it all sorted out. I think you shot me an email so will follow up there as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37780215) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:25 AM Author: effete razzmatazz partner 5 mg adderall and a cup of coffee right before you walk in the office, another 5-10 mg after lunch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775583) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 11:49 AM Author: Zippy maize national Correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775725) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: Odious At-the-ready Garrison That’s really weak sauce. See below. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775790) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Zippy maize national Or if you want a functioning brain, keep it low and slow. For the most part, the battle is just starting a task, which even small amounts of adderall will help with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775798) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:50 PM Author: effete razzmatazz partner If you need to scrub your floor with a toothbrush and sort dollar bills by serial number, sure, take 40mg.
If you're trying to focus and write a brief that will be intelligible tomorrow, less is more. |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 7:39 PM Author: Swashbuckling doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37778378) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 11:32 AM Author: Fishy Liquid Oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825532) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 2:35 PM Author: heady blood rage keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38675618) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 6:00 AM Author: Cruel-hearted umber clown hairy legs this or 20mg XR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673717) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: Odious At-the-ready Garrison Try 40mg Aderall XR. It will fry your brain and ruin your love life, but it will help you be a better biglaw drone if that is your goal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37775788) |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 9:53 AM Author: Passionate fanboi jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37786315) |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 11:07 AM Author: Transparent Stirring Goyim Church Building So adderall definitely does fuck up boner quality or you just mean bc it will make you crazy and annoying/up at all hours if you really go HAM on it? I’ve only tried adderall once but I did notice that higher doses of vyvanse made my dick function worse and my dick is generally awesome at getting hard and cumming over and over again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37786664) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 8:49 AM Author: Rose slap-happy step-uncle's house chad First, vyvanse is shit. See below. Second, it amps make you irritable which is not good for relationships. They also restrict blood to your extremities, so your penis will shrink. Seems to only effect it when flaccid, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37824780) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 12:45 PM Author: Passionate fanboi addy actually gave me insane boners and turned me into an animal when i was single and casually sexing bumble 6s
doesn't have the same effect when i'm in a committed relationship though |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 12:05 PM Author: Swashbuckling doctorate Biglaw ADHD bro; currently doing CBT to augment my GAKK
I’ll poast stuff later about what I’ve found works.
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:34 PM Author: Zippy maize national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776316) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:37 PM Author: fragrant house jap you're fucked. you have to love the tedium and get off on the validation you get from being a partner lapdog. if that's not you, and it's not most normal people including myself, just treat it as any other job and try and last as long as you can while looking for the next raft to jump to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776329) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:39 PM Author: Aphrodisiac state voyeur https://imgur.com/a/SwzFw4w
XOXOHTH |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:43 PM Author: awkward casino roast beef Ive never seen that brand of gakk before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776358) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 11:34 AM Author: Fishy Liquid Oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825544) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 11:37 AM Author: Passionate fanboi Teva
this should be blown up, framed, and put up in the Met. true portrait of GC |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 11:56 AM Author: awkward casino roast beef I meant the tiffanys box. That’s a 15mg IR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825684) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:50 PM Author: pink masturbator lmao just quit and get a real job
what a fucking current year post |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 1:58 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Same shit happened before law school in a “real job.” I figured I’d grow up but I think I’m worse now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37776447) |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: pink masturbator i mean a real job outside of the office, bro
guys like you are never going to be happy cooped up in an office like a cuck slave. find something that allows you to roam free like you were born to |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Yeah honestly I should’ve joined the military. I’m not saying leaving law would be the end of the world, but 170k of debt is pressuring me to stick it out for a bit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37777049) |
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Date: February 14th, 2019 9:03 AM Author: onyx generalized bond heaven jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37780599) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 2:38 PM Author: heady blood rage keepsake machete Military seems cr for adhd bros Or park ranger idk |
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Date: February 13th, 2019 8:04 PM Author: Hairraiser ivory private investor old irish cottage You fell into the biglaw ADHD trap. You're not alone.
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3996372&mc=35&forum_id=2#36203179 |
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Date: February 14th, 2019 9:05 AM Author: histrionic home i'm not a lawyer but u should aim for in-house asap
the monkeys that work in corporations (including the CEO) do almost no work and are horribly inefficient, even at top places like google or disney |
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Date: February 14th, 2019 9:25 AM Author: Swashbuckling doctorate Here are some tips:
1) Lists are your friend. You should have two—a “master task list” thats for stuff in the long term that requires concerted progress, and a daily task list—use your phone—where anthing you have in the relatively short term goes on there. When you think of something new, it goes on the list. When it’s completed, you remove it.
2) Figure out what your attention span is. Use stopwatches to see how long you can focus on a task before getting initially distracted, and how long you can go before acting on that distraction. This is important because part of the disability of ADHD is poor time management and ultimately poor time perception.
3) One thing that’s very useful, and can be done by a reasonably intelligent layperson (and I assume you are), is to dip your toe into the cognitive side of cognitive behavioral therapy. Our condition means that some of our thoughts and beliefs about ourselves and our capabilities are inaccurate—some of that due to the chemical disorder underlying the condition, and some of that as a response to the experiences you’ve had with this condition. You might undervalue yourself because of troubles adhd has caused at school or work, or you may overstate your capabilities to yourself.
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Date: February 14th, 2019 10:13 AM Author: Zippy maize national This poaster gets it. Good advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37780893) |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 9:50 AM Author: Passionate fanboi thanks, brother
are you still in big law? if not, how long did you make it with adhd? did you do all this stuff while you were in the thick of it? i use adderall but abuse it more often than not and now it's killing my body |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 12:15 PM Author: Swashbuckling doctorate Still in biglaw. Please email me at trainandpuppetshow@gmail.com and I’ll happily give more details
I do some of this stuff—I started an ADHD focused CBT regimen with my shrink a few months ago. Still have a long way to go but I’m seeing some improvements |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 3:29 PM Author: Fishy Liquid Oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37826824) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 9:03 AM Author: Zippy maize national What sort of regimen? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673945) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 2:41 PM Author: heady blood rage keepsake machete Is cbt really that hard to self administer? Why do we need fraud psychiatrists to do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38675650) |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 11:11 AM Author: Transparent Stirring Goyim Church Building Yes lists is correct. I can always tell when I am spiraling bc I actively resist listing out all the shit in my head bc I know it will overwhelm me (happening this week actually).
Thoughts on/experiences developing a proper gakkkkk regimen, MPA? I only really ever tried once and gave up when it started to do more harm than good. |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Swashbuckling doctorate I’ve been on GAKK since childhood and have never had a problem with compliance or significant side effects
108 mg of Concerta in the morning, 10mg Ritalin in the late afternoon
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Date: February 15th, 2019 12:20 PM Author: Zippy maize national Interesting, I'm not a fan of concerta. Glad it worked for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37787042) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 4:54 PM Author: multi-colored center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37827330) |
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Date: February 15th, 2019 12:48 PM Author: judgmental coldplay fan prole great thread, those youtube vids are spot on
theres a compnay called baronfig.com that makes great scheduling and reminder gear for you to make the prosthetic environments he describes
the weekly dot grid pad is a good one and i place it everywhere |
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Date: February 21st, 2019 8:19 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Thanks to everybody for the advice. I’m on Vyvanse on a higher dose as of this morning and the difference feels like night and day this time, but maybe I’m just having a good day. I haven’t tried meds for work admittedly until now, just school, and I had huge problems with compliance. We’ll see what unfolds. I’m optimistic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37822842) |
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Date: February 21st, 2019 8:43 PM Author: Aquamarine locale Started Vyvanse a week ago. First stimulant ever. Seems to work well enough, but it really helps to have some kind of podcast or something one to get me to concentrate, which is not the case when I'm not taking anything.
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 8:21 AM Author: Zippy maize national Pro tip. Start doing whatever task you are supposed to and then take the medication. Helps you stay on task on what you’ve started. Otherwise you can get focused on doing something else and not get your shit done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37824729) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 8:47 AM Author: Rose slap-happy step-uncle's house chad Lol, yup. I remember spending 10 hours in the law school library one time and researching investments instead of studying the entire time. I eventually had to take the modem out of my laptop and leave my cellphone at home so that I wouldn’t be tempted to get off track. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37824774) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 8:45 AM Author: Rose slap-happy step-uncle's house chad Vyvanse is just a weaker version of adderall. The pharma maker’s patent on adderall ran out, so they just removed one of the active ingredients (one of the amp salts in their “mixed amp salts”) and called it a new drug. Then they got all of the crooked psychiatrists to start pushing it instead of the generic version of adderall. Costs 10x as much and is less effective. Tell your dude that you want the addy generic instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37824768) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 8:52 AM Author: Bonkers Chapel 120. The pure dextro (vyvanse) is way better for social interaction. That's why they were holding out on it.
Granted the levo will fire you like a rocket into work mode but you get none of the euphoria of the dex and if ur like me, enough of the old time levo/dex mix will turn you into a benzodiazapine addict just to be able to converse with others while gAKKing out on that mix. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 12:18 PM Author: Aquamarine locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825828) |
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Please translate into English when you are sober. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall What prompted you to start it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825871) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 12:07 PM Author: Aquamarine locale I tried to get some kind of medication about ten years ago when I was flaming out of grad school and couldn't figure out why. School I was at had a clinic where you go in for about six hours and get a full workup for ADD/ADHD--meet with a therapist, psychometric testing, etc.
They told me I didn't have it. In particular they talked about my performance on an test that was basically "Simon Says" on a computer screen--if a certain symbol flashed on the screen, you would click a button, but if a different symbol flashed, you wouldn't click. I don't know how well I did on it, but apparently people who they think have real ADD/ADHD fall asleep during the test. So ok.
Made my way into the lucrative field of comma checking, which is obviously a poor fit for someone with attention issues, which in turn kicks off comorbid conditions. Wife has been on my case about seeing psychologist/psychiatrist because of these conditions. Generally, my response was that I had seen both in the past and not found them helpful. My last therapist kicked me out after two and a half sessions.
A few weeks ago, though, had a really bad night--heart pounding, up until 4AM, etc. So I found some rando psychiatrist on ZocDoc who took my insurance. Go in there, talk about issues, including getting denied a dx before, and somehow walk out of there with a script for both Vyvanse and Xanax. This lady might be a pill mill. I don't know.
Initial experience is that Vyvanse calms me the fuck down at work. Not really superfocused so much as that, typically, if I have four things to do, if I start on one of them, I will have constant anxiety about not doing the other three. That shit is way down now.
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Date: February 21st, 2019 8:46 PM Author: Trip hateful indian lodge personal credit line Law is shit, pure shit. You need to acknowledge that and accept that fact first. You may have ADHD, and that will make it worse, but law is shit.
The only people who succeed long term in law and don't end up with clinical depression are autists who enjoy spending countless hours paying attention to small details and minutiae. You can try various techniques to help you concentrate on this horrid shit, but to what end? In four years you'll be unable to look at a tall building without dreaming about the wooosh-splat as you jump.
If this is not you, just get out. Coast for a year to collect the paycheck and pay down some debt. Then get the fuck out. |
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Date: February 24th, 2019 7:03 PM Author: Trip hateful indian lodge personal credit line If someone is ADHD, or generally just not into "attention to detail" (analyzing every word of a 60 page contract, for example), but is are fairly outgoing, then sales is a much better alternative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37836925) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Yeah sounds like I need to accept this. A couple of likeminded friends ahead of me in law school didn’t last more than 9 months. One quit after two weeks lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825866) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 9:28 AM Author: Soul-stirring Brindle Parlour Non "h" addmo mid/senior biglaw here. In some ways Biglaw is good bc of the constant pressure. If I'm slow on work I will do nothing before I touch the non-time sensitive shit festing for years on my to-do list. If you have the option, try to switch to a practice area or work with partners that have lots of short term fire drills. Don't take breaks. I regularly take my gakk and work from 10am to 11pm with no eating except some candy bars or fruit my firm puts out. Even going to the cafeteria in the building breaks the rhythm too much. If I get real lunch I end up telling myself I can just read some news while I eat then I spend the next 2 hours reading Wikipedia or whatever. Don't go on social media. Don't even download the apps on your phone. This is a good tip for non-addmos too. Facebook news feed and Igram are designed like a slot machine to exploit your brain's dopamine/reward system. Use timers and bill all your time. Block bill until someone tells you not to. Don't try to work casually on nights or weekends from home. Stay at the office and grind and then take the whole weekend off to recover. Addmos can get in a groove and be super focused for long periods of time. They can't multitask or jump from work to leisure and back. Don't start the day with news or personal shit. Try to bill every minute you are in the office until at least noon. Hopefully by then you get in the groove and just keep going. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 11:27 AM Author: Passionate fanboi what kind of practice area is mostly fire drills?
i've noticed that i really shine in these scenarios but i ruin everything on projects where I'm supposed to push a bunch of unmotivated people along |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 2:26 AM Author: Soul-stirring Brindle Parlour M&A, finance or anything transactional will have a good tempo for addmos. I don't do lit but imagine it would be bad if you have several weeks to submit a brief or in trusts and estates where there's no rush to get a deal done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37829908) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Thanks, this all sounds doable now that I’m bakk on gakk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825821) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 2:24 AM Author: Soul-stirring Brindle Parlour Very doable. Don't sweat the short term performance. Firms are desperate for bodies and first years are cheap. Just find your rhythm and don't fall behind entering time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37829906) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 3:23 PM Author: judgmental coldplay fan prole how much and what type of gakk are yo taking
slow release or generic salts? |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 1:31 AM Author: Soul-stirring Brindle Parlour Usually about 15mg generic addy in the morning weekdays and about 4 cups of coffee. This is half what I'm prescribed. I couldn't see taking 30mg everyday long term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37829745) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 12:23 PM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Not 99%ile but a few questions away. When I studied I’d do one section and play NBA jam for 30 mins. Even with the one section I had issues with concentration and made stupid mistakes. Didn’t have the endurance on the actual test and felt lucky enough with the score I did get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37825859) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 4:49 PM Author: awkward casino roast beef Addy ir makes biglaw fun and fulfilling until 8pm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37827302) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2019 5:07 PM Author: Passionate fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37827401) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 12:50 AM Author: Rose slap-happy step-uncle's house chad 166, but too 5% of my T14 class thanks to the miracle of adderall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37829573) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 1:23 AM Author: Aphrodisiac state voyeur My partner is a defense attorney and was actually diagnosed because her coworkers after law school encouraged her to see someone. (Turns out the gigantic case load, lack of funding for extra resources, and hectic/stressful environment at the PD office exacerbated the symptoms of her then untreated ADHD. Who woulda thunk it?? Lol.) Now she has her own practice. It's small and there is only one employee - me, who also has ADHD - but we've kept it alive for just over a year now!
There is definitely some added stress when our symptoms collide. She's forgetful with appointments so I write down every single thing in our fancy schedule book.... and then she proceeds to temporarily lose it 10 times throughout the day. She tells me that a phone number on a scrap of paper is important, so I put it in a very safe place until I can properly add it to the file, and pretty much immediately forget where that safe place is.
However, I firmly believe that her ADHD helps her to look at cases from every possible angle and flush out every possible scenario - which makes her a better attorney. Plus she can almost always correctly give you a specific statute number on the spot which I can't prove is part of her individual ADHD superpowers, but I think it is. I can't remember where I set that file 30 seconds ago, but I can tell you almost verbatim what story our client told us about their case a month ago and where I think there might be holes based on subtle changes in tone or body language and my hyperfocus is awesome when it's research time.
Despite all that word vomit I do have a point and it is this: ADHD is hard and frustrating and often gets in the way and complicates things, but it also gives you very specific superpowers, even if you haven't quite pinpointed them yet. Keep up the good work and use your ADHD powers to be a helluva attorney! Congratulations again and I hope you continue to see progress in your therapy!
edited because spelling and grammar and ADHD |
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Date: February 23rd, 2019 2:49 AM Author: Soul-stirring Brindle Parlour Add definitely has advantages. The shrink who diagnosed me said some theorize it's a hunter/gatherer adaptation and not really a disorder at all. The add mind is open to all stimuli (some rabbit footsteps or a predator stalking) and is then capable of laser focus on some specific task to the exclusion of all others (building a shelter or tracking game). This causes issues in modern society where people are expected to devote moderate attention to multiple tasks, but can be used to advantage sometimes in biglaw, e.g. spotting any random issue and then laser focusing on how 7.6 interacts with 9.2. Not great for time management though because most of the issues u spot are useless and u can laser focus on the wrong thing and go down the rabbit hole for hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#37829950) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 6:06 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Wish I saw this earlier. Thanks for the encouragement. If anything, I’m not as intimidated by last minute fire drills, which seem to throw off some of the extra serious law review types I envied six months ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673729) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 6:10 AM Author: canary frum yarmulke location >I’ve been given Wellbutrin, adderall, Ritalin, vyvanse, and even modafinil
but not strattera?
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Date: August 12th, 2019 6:14 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall I’d never heard of this until March. Considering trying it, but vyvanse is fine this time around. I think shrinks always suggested stimulants because I’m the inattentive type adhd or whatever it’s called. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673739) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 6:18 AM Author: canary frum yarmulke location inattentive is the type that benefits from strattera. I started a couple months ago and I think it's helping me unlock mental powers (continuing with vyvanse at the same time, it's not a substitute).
read the linked thread and watch the YT vid if you want to know more. |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 6:27 AM Author: Bistre shivering deer antler hall Ty, sounds 180. My shrink has actually pushed me to try it, so I’ll take him up on that tomorrow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673752) |
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Date: August 12th, 2019 8:20 AM Author: Blue vivacious sanctuary sweet tailpipe How does someone with ADHD get biglaw in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4200140&forum_id=2#38673870) |
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Step 5) if CCN successfully fog mirror at OCI, if MVP be somewhat chill and fratty at OCI |
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