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DTP taking ?s on 5-factor model and personality of dream girl (4/19/2019)
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Date: April 19th, 2019 1:38 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38111655) |
Date: April 19th, 2019 1:40 PM Author: hyperventilating meetinghouse what's your dream girl's personality type according to your 5 factor model? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38111665) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 1:48 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house the most important by far is an EXTREMELY HIGH agreeableness. this essentially makes her the sort of pure-hearted, friendly, giving, warm, nurturing dream girl - personality like a PUPPY - that can temporarily make me forget the ugliness of my own internal world. makes me melt into a PUDDLE OF softness and captures the essential quality of femininity (and youth) per se.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreeableness
for an engrossing, intimate personal connection and sustainment of interest so that you don't get immediately bored with each other after like a 5 minute convo, you need relatively high openness to experience:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience
less important are the following in how much i am essentially ATTRACTED to the girl, but they are no less important in the pragmatics of a relationship's functioning:
she should be LOW in extroversion so that we're on the same wavelength, she isn't into too many normie shit, and has an inner world to access:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion_and_introversion
she should have MEDIUM conscientiousness - not too low because you don't want to date a dysfunctional slob, but not too high because you don't want a busybody shrew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientiousness
she should have MEDIUM neuroticism - not too low because you want her to have a degree of adorable VULNERABILITY, but not too high or she'll make you and herself miserable in the long run (and a deeply engrained neuroticism which only rears its head from underneath a high surface-level agreeableness is a disconcerting thing to behold)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroticism |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 7:12 PM Author: hyperventilating meetinghouse do girls with high agreeableness just pretend to go along with you, or do they actually just go along with whoever most recently applied the slightest bit of pressure to them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113270) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 7:16 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house their agreeableness obviously has to be genuine, so mostly the latter
a sweet agreeable girl is like putty in your hands, and the most adorable thing in the world |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 7:52 PM Author: aromatic angry principal's office Just think of how many Chads treated her pussy like putty in their hands, leaving her broken and disappointed each time, a victim to her own agreeableness, until she isn't so agreeable anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126720) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 7:53 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house she had slept with 3 guys before me. they were all in LTRs and none of them were chads.
thanks for your post though. i genuinely appreciate it when people try to out-toxify me |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:28 PM Author: aromatic angry principal's office The hypothetical scenario I described has happened literally millions of times. It is the norm of modern society . . . every single woman having her agreeableness eroded away by Chad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126853) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:36 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house yes it's true, and a theme i've often wanted to explore. the tragedy of tinder society is not good girls getting seduced into sluttery, unleashing some kind of inner whoredom that was always latent and made her irredeemable in the first place, but good girls who would otherwise remain good girls, getting tricked and abused by manipulators of social dynamics, a subtle erosion of the personal qualities that make her precious and desirable and intrinsically valuable, like a piece of artwork besmirched by a sociopath's cock stain, and quite literally at that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126894) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 9:00 PM Author: aromatic angry principal's office Years ago I had a girlfriend and we were very intensely in love. I had to move away to a city that would be very undesirable to her to live in. The plan was that I would go there and work for about 6 months, make sure the situation was stable, and then she would move there and we would get married soon after. During the interim she sabotaged the relationship in various subtle ways and eventually decided not to move. We broke up. Several times when she had been younger, she sacrificed and moved for relationships only to be heartbroken. By the time she met me, her capacity to trust in someone and put a relationship before herself had been eroded away. Last I checked, she was shrewing it up in a major city with "museums" and "nightlife." In her younger days, her dream had been to have children. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126994) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 9:10 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house yes all very devastating. and notice how that subtle inner damage she harbored wouldn't have shown itself if you hadn't needed to mov. and hence why, someone as vigilant and neurotic as i am, chafes at the idea of meeting a girl past the age of, like 22, or who has had multiple relationships before, and why i'm so staunch in my beliefs that it's terribly sad, for so many men in society to walk around blinded by the "love" they feel for 28 y/o jaded shrews they met online, without any proper assessment of the damage already done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38127053) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 9:13 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house could you expand on how you felt, and how you came to the realization that it was specifically her previous experiences of having been disappointed by other men that made her reluctant to want to move again? and what you speculate the aftermath to have been? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38127085) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 7:54 PM Author: flickering locus giraffe (Guy whose socially awkward dream girl cucks him with every white dork who messages her on leddit) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126735) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 2:03 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38111841) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 4:32 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38112532) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 6:20 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113048) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 7:09 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113258) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 7:46 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113384) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 8:19 PM Author: Mauve alpha Rate my estimation of my wife: -Conscientiousness: 90th percentile (heavier on industriousness than orderliness) -Openness: 30th percentile -Extroversion: 20th percentile -Negative emotion: 70th percentile (but average for a girl) -Agreeableness: 40th percentile (20th percentile for a girl) -IQ because it matters: A high performing 130ish |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 8:34 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house lmao at that agreeablness
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Date: April 19th, 2019 8:36 PM Author: Mauve alpha Oh yeah. She's very much not a sweet and loving kind of chick. I'm something like 1st percentile agreeableness and it's a good dynamic because she's still ~1 SD more agreeable than me. When I date very agreeable women I just walked all over them and treated them like shit entirely without me even knowing it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113553) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 8:53 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house a woman's agreeableness is the only reason i continue to live (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113598) |
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Date: April 19th, 2019 8:54 PM Author: balding field mother You're gay and you hate women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38113601) |
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Date: April 20th, 2019 12:24 AM Author: greedy salmon codepig house bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38114175) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:32 PM Author: Mauve alpha I don't like highly-agreeable women. I see them as victims for me to control and that annoys me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126871) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:39 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house yes there's a always a risk of such a girl having become a victim (of chad's manipulations, or just taken advantage of by people in general) that would make her undesirable if she weren't well protected.
but the agreeableness itself - the softness, the warmth, the genuine positive optimistic emotions - that is the only thing that keeps me alive. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:43 PM Author: Mauve alpha That's the difference between you and me. I'm 1st percentile in negative emotion, so I'm 100% fine no matter what and so don't need someone to help me feel good. Chop off my legs, have my wife divorce me, and get me fired from my job -- in a few weeks i'll be over it living a new 180 life telling stories about how I lost my legs -- all while never having been down about it.
Also, when people treat me compassionately i interpret it as an insult because it implies I need someone's help, which is never true because I'm 180 as fuck on my own. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:46 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house that's great and all, but kind of negates the importance of having a "dream girl" in the first place, or any other accomplishments
i wouldn't be able to feel the lows i feel without appreciating some highs. similarly, the alleviation of my most intense lows have constituted some of my most exhilarating highs. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:49 PM Author: Mauve alpha I don't even understand the concept of a dream girl. I can't relate with that concept at all. I am totally not concerned with that.
I don't really highs either.
You're right that I don't "feel" accomplishments. I get very little satisfaction whatsoever out of most "accomplishments". I think I'm 180 and have done 180 in life, but never felt like I "accomplished" anything. That could also be about coming from a very privileged background in basically every way possible. I have literally everything working for me.
I'm sort of in a constant state of chill fratty contentment. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:51 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house that's what i meant: getting with my occasional "dream girl" feels like i've been injected with pure cocaine. getting out of it feels like i'm going through a withdrawal that'll lead to death. having the contrasts is necessary. i can't imagine feeling "180" all the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126947) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:52 PM Author: Mauve alpha Actually -- one of the few times I feel a sense of accomplishment is when I fuck a new chick. Hence my addiction to cheatmoing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126949) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:54 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house yeah but i'm sure it's only 5% as great as i feel (relative to my usual lows) when i get one of my dream girls to like me.
you're sort of like nyuug in that regard - racking up points like in a video game is your only capacity for pleasure
meanwhile i'm simultaneously feeling heaven and hell on a regular basis (even if it's mostly the latter) and writing poetry about it |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:56 PM Author: Mauve alpha Don't disagree with you. It's really only a mild sense of satisfaction / accomplishment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126966) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:58 PM Author: greedy salmon codepig house and therein lies the rub: those with the extremely low neuroticism necessary to be a "playboy" will inevitably feel only dull pleasure from their achievements (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126980) |
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Date: April 20th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: twisted office ratface Why haven't you gotten married yet, DTP? Based on all your beliefs thus far, it would seem that you should have settled down by now and been in an LTR since you were 22 or so. WTF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38117537) |
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Date: April 20th, 2019 10:22 PM Author: Racy stage He is a body dysmorphic homosexual with hypergraphia, not the marrying type. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38117542) |
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Date: April 20th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: twisted office ratface But he poasts about females, not dudes. Makes no sense. Something's wrong with him for sure, but I doubt it's faggotry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38117553) |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 12:50 AM Author: Racy stage Think of John Cheever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38118075) |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 2:05 AM Author: twisted office ratface I don't know him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38118180) |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 2:02 PM Author: Racy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38119583) |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 10:21 AM Author: greedy salmon codepig house i'm not gay
i don't have body dysmorphia
i don't have hypergraphia |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 10:21 AM Author: greedy salmon codepig house i didn't lose my virginity until around 25, and since then i've been looking for the right girl (implicitly, according to the criteria i laid out above), but either haven't found her (those criteria are admittedly very rare), or keep fucking it up (they also tend to be not so compatible with me) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38118771) |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 1:34 AM Author: Buff state my ideal:
85th percentile agreeableness 50th percentile extraversion 60th percentile conscientiousness 30th percentile neuroticism 99.9th percentile openness |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 8:33 PM Author: Mauve alpha Anyone that high on openness is going to have a mental disorder. This is why so many shitlibs are derranged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38126877) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2019 2:34 PM Author: Buff state we use the term "neurodivergent" around here and lmao at thinking it's possible to have 99.9th percentile openness and stay within the shitlib/shitcon paradigm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38130382) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2019 9:09 PM Author: Cyan supple hunting ground becky Strange thread full of strange posts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38127046) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2019 1:22 PM Author: twisted office ratface Lots of posters engaging a chink's mental illness. You'll end up mentally ill as well. Just give it some time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4244911&forum_id=2#38129940) |