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NYT op-ed blames liberal NIMBY for CA housing crisis. LJL@comments

America’s Cities Are Unlivable. Blame Wealthy Liberals...
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Chi Lau Inglewood, CAMay 22 Times Pick Senator Scott Wien...
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is living on the shit-and-needle-covered street better?
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He's right but it is still funny.
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geezazz Long Beach, CAMay 22 Times Pick There are clearly...
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"Who charges exorbitant rents, liberals? No, people who...
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LOL at Reagan still getting blamed for shit
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don't forget he did AIDS too.
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RGHicks New YorkMay 23 In my small city - 25 miles nort...
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What if I told you creating new supply at the top end reduce...
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go easy, why don't you explain how RE taxes fund local govts...
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Government says, "Give me 2% (or whatever) of the asses...
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funny how a monopoly on coercive force works
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God bless the second amendment
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That's an extremely Jewish name for a city.
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"Almost NONE of the 6000 new units approved (which coul...
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The problem is structural, and it is not associated with ima...
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95% of this is quite dumb
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"The problem is that the U.S.A. economy has evolved int...
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Unreal that there are people who sincerely believe this.
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The truth is that the YIMBY agenda, driven by affluent, youn...
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won't someone please think of the niggers
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Just raise taxes to give more funding to the schools
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it's amazing to me how many people can't make the simple log...
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But the weather makes up for it.
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too many rats on a sinking ship.
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A city denser then LA can still be much nicer than LA, which...
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depends on how civilized the people are within the city.
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density is very overrated. part of the charm of LA was the q...
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It's not LA anymore, one way or the other. The thing that m...
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DKM NE Ohio6h ago Wow, just build more housing and all wil...
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is a living wage a 350k household income in this mong's mind...
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*what clevelanders actually believe*
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Supply AND Demand? that's CRAZY
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libs have shit for brains
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put the NIMBYs on the trains
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This will end well in California
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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

America’s Cities Are Unlivable. Blame Wealthy Liberals.

By Farhad Manjoo

To live in California at this time is to experience every day the cryptic phrase that George W. Bush once used to describe the invasion of Iraq: “Catastrophic success.” The economy here is booming, but no one feels especially good about it. When the cost of living is taken into account, billionaire-brimming California ranks as the most poverty-stricken state, with a fifth of the population struggling to get by. Since 2010, migration out of California has surged.

The basic problem is the steady collapse of livability. Across my home state, traffic and transportation is a developing-world nightmare. Child care and education seem impossible for all but the wealthiest. The problems of affordable housing and homelessness have surpassed all superlatives — what was a crisis is now an emergency that feels like a dystopian showcase of American inequality.

Just look at San Francisco, Nancy Pelosi’s city. One of every 11,600 residents is a billionaire, and the annual household income necessary to buy a median-priced home now tops $320,000. Yet the streets there are a plague of garbage and needles and feces, and every morning brings fresh horror stories from a “Black Mirror” hellscape: Homeless veterans are surviving on an economy of trash from billionaires’ mansions. Wealthy homeowners are crowdfunding a legal effort arguing that a proposed homeless shelter is an environmental hazard. A public-school teacher suffering from cancer is forced to pay for her own substitute.

In March, teachers went on strike for seven days in Oakland, Calif., arguing that their salaries were not keeping up with the region’s soaring cost of living.Ben Margot/Associated Press

In March, teachers went on strike for seven days in Oakland, Calif., arguing that their salaries were not keeping up with the region’s soaring cost of living.Ben Margot/Associated Press

And there is no end in sight to such crushing success. At every level of government, our representatives, nearly all of them Democrats, prove inadequate and unresponsive to the challenges at hand. Witness last week’s embarrassment, when California lawmakers used a sketchy parliamentary maneuver to knife Senate Bill 50, an ambitious effort to undo restrictive local zoning rules and increase the supply of housing.

It was another chapter in a dismal saga of Nimbyist urban mismanagement that is crushing American cities. Not-in-my-backyardism is a bipartisan sentiment, but because the largest American cities are populated and run by Democrats — many in states under complete Democratic control — this sort of nakedly exclusionary urban restrictionism is a particular shame of the left.

There are many threads in the story of America’s increasingly unlivable cities. One continuing tragedy is the decimation of local media and the rise of nationalized politics in its place. In America the “local” problems plaguing cities are systematically sidelined by the structure of the national media and government, in which the presidency, the Senate and the Supreme Court are all constitutionally tilted in favor of places where no one lives. (There are more than twice as many people in my midsize suburban county, Santa Clara, as there are in the entire state of North Dakota, with its two United States senators.)

That’s why, aside from Elizabeth Warren — who has a plan for housing, as she has a plan for everything — Democrats on the 2020 presidential trail rarely mention their ideas for housing affordability, an issue eating American cities alive. I watched Joe Biden’s campaign kick off the other day; the only house he mentioned was the White House.

Then there is the refusal on the part of wealthy progressives to live by the values they profess to support at the national level. Creating dense, economically and socially diverse urban environments ought to be a paramount goal of progressivism. Cities are the standard geographical unit of the global economy. Dense urban areas are quite literally the “real America” — the cities are where two-thirds of Americans live, and they account for almost all national economic output. Urban areas are the most environmentally friendly way we know of housing lots of people. We can’t solve the climate crisis without vastly improving public transportation and increasing urban density. More than that, metropolises are good for the psyche and the soul; density fosters tolerance, diversity, creativity and progress.

Yet where progressives argue for openness and inclusion as a cudgel against President Trump, they abandon it on Nob Hill and in Beverly Hills. This explains the opposition to SB 50, which aimed to address the housing shortage in a very straightforward way: by building more housing. The bill would have erased single-family zoning in populous areas near transit locations. Areas zoned for homes housing a handful of people could have been redeveloped to include duplexes and apartment buildings that housed hundreds.

State Senator Scott Wiener, center, introduced a bill, later shelved, that would have allowed higher-density housing in areas close to transit and jobs.Rich Pedroncelli/Associated Press

State Senator Scott Wiener, center, introduced a bill, later shelved, that would have allowed higher-density housing in areas close to transit and jobs.Rich Pedroncelli/Associated Press

The bill had garnered support from a diverse coalition of business and advocacy groups, and its sponsor, State Senator Scott Wiener, had negotiated a series of compromises with some of its fiercest opponents. Polls showed the measure to be widely popular. For the first time, something extraordinary looked possible: California’s wealthy homeowners would abandon their restrictionist attitudes and let us build some new housing.

Nope. Instead, Anthony Portantino, a Democratic state senator whose district includes the posh city of La Cañada Flintridge and who heads the appropriations committee, announced that he’d be shelving the bill until next year. In an interview with The Los Angeles Times, he worried that the law would spur lots of people to move near residential bus routes, which he suggested would alter the character of enclaves like his.

And? Why is that so bad?

Reading opposition to SB 50 and other efforts at increasing density, I’m struck by an unsettling thought: What Republicans want to do with I.C.E. and border walls, wealthy progressive Democrats are doing with zoning and Nimbyism. Preserving “local character,” maintaining “local control,” keeping housing scarce and inaccessible — the goals of both sides are really the same: to keep people out.

“We’re saying we welcome immigration, we welcome refugees, we welcome outsiders — but you’ve got to have a $2 million entrance fee to live here, otherwise you can use this part of a sidewalk for a tent,” said Brian Hanlon, president of the pro-density group California Yimby. “That to me is not being very welcoming. It’s not being very neighborly.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38278964)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

Chi Lau

Inglewood, CAMay 22

Times Pick

Senator Scott Wiener is clearly beholden to developers eager to raze suburban neighborhoods and replace beautiful, unique and prized single family homes with five-story slabs of concrete more appropriate to Stalinist Russia. Californians do not wish to live in such soulless environs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38278966)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: Cracking shaky business firm pocket flask

is living on the shit-and-needle-covered street better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38278976)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: Ungodly love of her life principal's office

(Chinese guy living in a gaudy mcmansion in Redondo beach on expropriated money)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279047)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:13 PM
Author: jet anal stain sanctuary



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:33 PM
Author: Sticky Charcoal Ceo Locus



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Date: May 24th, 2019 9:26 AM
Author: Electric base new version



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 10:36 PM
Author: cerise wonderful ticket booth pisswyrm

This is pretty hilarious when spoken by soulless pro-choice, 62-gender shitlibs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280675)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 11:13 PM
Author: Lemon provocative stage

He's right but it is still funny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280860)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:06 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

geezazz

Long Beach, CAMay 22

Times Pick

There are clearly big problems in large urban areas, but it's incorrect to blame that on Democrats or liberals or whoever. You know who are creating these problems? We are. Who charges exorbitant rents, liberals? No, people who own rental properties and want top market dollar for their units. Hey, makes sense, but don't blame government.

Who is keeping wages down? Business owners wishing to maximize profits as much as possible—your neighbors. Did China steal our jobs? No, American business leaders moved manufacturing jobs overseas to maximize profits. Same thing with automation.

So please, let's not make this another oppositional liberal vs. conservative construct. The very idea that the entire country is divided into two camps on any issue is also a false narrative and extremely destructive to the fabric of this nation, though admittedly a useful tool for manipulating the masses. Or, for dismantling our democracy, while we squabble over every single problem that arises out of overpopulation of cities and unfettered greed.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38278972)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:10 PM
Author: thirsty domesticated crackhouse

"Who charges exorbitant rents, liberals? No, people who own rental properties and want top market dollar for their units."

Whoa there friend! Let's not think too hard about this, shall we?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38278991)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: sickened vibrant site

Yeah, jews breathing a sigh of relief after he took this line in a total unrelated incoherent direction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279071)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:32 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 11:20 PM
Author: Disturbing potus



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:11 AM
Author: Duck-like Twinkling Uncleanness

Some fucking retard who knows nothing about economics or even basic human behavior.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#45097092)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

Pancho

USAMay 22

I think the writer lives in some strange California of his own mind. Things here are, on balance, pretty good. San Francisco has a homeless problem because Ronald Reagan and a generation of Republicans did away with mental hospitals and their expense, and ill-advised civil liberties groups have blocked civil commitment reform. Average citizens too feel squeezed in SF, but not being able to afford Pacific Heights or the Marina is not a housing crisis, it's a whining crisis.

Conservatives pointing to cities and saying, "Cities have crime, and homelessness and traffic, and Democrats run cities, so Democrats create crime, homelessness and traffic," is such a simple logical fallacy that a 3 year old can unravel it. But apparently not every NYT columnist can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38278981)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:15 PM
Author: Translucent Fiercely-loyal Clown

LOL at Reagan still getting blamed for shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279024)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: Chocolate tripping property

don't forget he did AIDS too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279065)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:29 PM
Author: violet internal respiration parlor

Lmao boomer scum. Almost all zip codes in the greater Bay Area have a median rent unaffordable without a 6 figure income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279120)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 6:02 PM
Author: walnut orchestra pit

Didn't Foucault teach us mental hospitals are a form of oppression?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279257)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:25 PM
Author: glassy useless church

"you know whose fault it is the authorities permit the homeless to shit and shoot up on the street outside people's $5k 1 bedrooms?" asked the smug leftist in a tone that attained heights of condescension almost incomprehensible to the human mind.

"RONALD WILSON REAGAN" they continued without irony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279981)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:58 PM
Author: narrow-minded floppy cruise ship french chef

I lol'd

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Date: May 23rd, 2019 9:12 PM
Author: ultramarine depressive



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Date: May 24th, 2019 7:45 AM
Author: fragrant purple legend



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Date: May 24th, 2019 7:47 AM
Author: Sooty Lay Gaming Laptop



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Date: May 24th, 2019 8:08 AM
Author: sadistic indirect expression sneaky criminal



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Date: May 24th, 2019 9:28 AM
Author: Electric base new version



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Date: May 24th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: thirsty domesticated crackhouse



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:09 AM
Author: swashbuckling hall karate



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:18 AM
Author: mint misanthropic chad



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: blue therapy

Libs are hypocrites, news at 11

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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: Balding Navy Famous Landscape Painting Dopamine



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:15 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

RGHicks

New YorkMay 23

In my small city - 25 miles north of NYC, developers have descended like locusts. Spot zoning has made a mockery of our zoning laws as 20 story structures that look like they are put together with cardboard and scotch tape are approved for areas zoned for 3 stories.

But here's the kicker. Almost NONE of the 6000 new units approved (which could increase our live-in population by about 15%) is even remotely affordable for an average person or family. Worse, the required set-aside of 10% affordable units is often reduced to a paltry 6% if the developer is willing to pay a fee. Meanwhile, local property tax breaks, PILOT (Payments In Leiu Of Taxes) on the county level ensure that the developer pays minimal property taxes.

So guess who gets to pay for all this? This includes new roads, sewage, drainage, water supply, increased school population, increased police and fire? Current homeowners end up footing the bill while developers laugh all the way to the bank.

The end result is that current residents wind up paying to subsidize LUXURY HOUSING where a 450 sf box of a studio goes for over $2000/month. Want a 2BR? That will be $3.5-$4k a month. Most people in our community are subsidizing development they themselves can't afford to live in.

Tell me again, how this is supposed to relieve an affordability crisis? And please don't tell me the rents will come down once we reach a "tipping point" unless you can show me viable examples where this has actually worked.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279023)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:36 PM
Author: Duck-like Twinkling Uncleanness

What if I told you creating new supply at the top end reduces pressure on the low end?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279146)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:39 PM
Author: Indecent Tanning Salon

go easy, why don't you explain how RE taxes fund local govts first?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279157)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:58 PM
Author: Duck-like Twinkling Uncleanness

Government says, "Give me 2% (or whatever) of the assessed value of your real estate, or I'll take it away, sell it, and take my money from the proceeds."

Owner: *writes check*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279247)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 6:22 AM
Author: Indecent Tanning Salon

funny how a monopoly on coercive force works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38281817)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 7:52 AM
Author: house-broken den telephone

God bless the second amendment

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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:39 PM
Author: dull chapel

ljl at new rochelle

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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:40 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:06 AM
Author: Bisexual fuchsia house genital piercing

That's an extremely Jewish name for a city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#45097066)



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:13 AM
Author: Duck-like Twinkling Uncleanness

"Almost NONE of the 6000 new units approved (which could increase our live-in population by about 15%) is even remotely affordable for an average person or family."

Affordability filters down.

"Tell me again, how this is supposed to relieve an affordability crisis?"

Additional supply, fuckhead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#45097100)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:16 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

The problem is structural, and it is not associated with imaginary "wealthy liberals". The problem is that the U.S.A. economy has evolved into a full blown laissez-faire economy. Checks and balances are non existent, and there is very little organized political will, or even desire, to change the situation.

So when Silicon Valley wakes up one morning (around 2007-2008) and decides to move out of San Jose to establish its operation in San Francisco the city is not only completely unprepared and unaware of what the consequences will be, but it welcomes the companies with a multitude of tax breaks and red carpets of all kinds.

Fast forward ten years and the same dynamic that obliterated San Francisco is obliterating the rest of the Bay Area.

But it is not the "wealthy liberals". It is a malaise, a failure of political imagination, at the National level. As a Nation we have given up on the idea of building a society, and embraced instead the idea that unbridled capitalistic growth will solve any and all of our problems.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279034)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:16 PM
Author: jet anal stain sanctuary



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 9:02 PM
Author: narrow-minded floppy cruise ship french chef

95% of this is quite dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280135)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:18 AM
Author: Rusted cuckold trust fund

"The problem is that the U.S.A. economy has evolved into a full blown laissez-faire economy"

How fucking deranged do you have to be to believe this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38281192)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 9:49 AM
Author: Rough-skinned pit

Unreal that there are people who sincerely believe this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38282250)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:17 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

The truth is that the YIMBY agenda, driven by affluent, younger people of means, legislates the removal of more affordable, older housing (i.e., houses being shared, smaller, older complexes), razing all to erect housing that is unaffordable to all but higher income residents (aka, YIMBYs). It is a developer's dream come true and is resulting (at least in my city) in poorer people being pushed farther and farther out of the City while gleaming glass and concrete cubes with apartments priced at a premium go empty.

San Francisco's minority communities have been fighting the YIMBYs, who seek to terraform SF into a much shinier, far more expensive place--an unattainable place, for most. 

I'm not against duplexes, triplexes etc (we converted our house to a triplex from single family), and I'm very much for more affordable housing. But let's be honest about what's behind the YIMBY agenda, and who it is actually serving. There is little transparency, at the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279037)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:17 PM
Author: thirsty domesticated crackhouse

won't someone please think of the niggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279044)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: alcoholic foreskin

T R A N S P A R E N C Y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279067)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

Ken Bernstein

Los Angeles, CAMay 22

@Pancho - You are being unfair to the columnist who wrote a nice article about problems in large cities. Such problems are real and people - for complex reasons - resist difficult solutions. I am a liberal Democrat who lives in Los Angeles. Despite high taxes, the public school system is far below excellent. Thus, in a city dominated by liberals, the school system is weak and many people (including me) pay for private schools. It is a real problem, and a hard problem to solve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279051)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 6:13 PM
Author: Balding Navy Famous Landscape Painting Dopamine

Just raise taxes to give more funding to the schools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279299)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 7:54 AM
Author: house-broken den telephone

Invite 3rd worlders into your city and enjoy 3rd world schools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38281970)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:19 PM
Author: Cheese-eating bawdyhouse

it's amazing to me how many people can't make the simple logical connection: more people = lower quality of life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279059)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:21 PM
Author: Chocolate tripping property

But the weather makes up for it.

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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:17 PM
Author: jet anal stain sanctuary



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:17 PM
Author: Charismatic Beta Stag Film Generalized Bond

too many rats on a sinking ship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279938)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:52 PM
Author: Soggy painfully honest forum useless brakes

A city denser then LA can still be much nicer than LA, which is a sprawlish hell scape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280092)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:56 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Canary Organic Girlfriend

depends on how civilized the people are within the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280105)



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:15 AM
Author: Brindle cerebral location



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Date: May 24th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: Cheese-eating bawdyhouse

density is very overrated. part of the charm of LA was the quasi-suburban bungalow house atmosphere in an urban desert setting. to make it another grey tower bore would just be to make it not LA. the problem isn't density, it's overpopulation and demographics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38282908)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:53 PM
Author: honey-headed sandwich institution

It's not LA anymore, one way or the other. The thing that made the California dream was accessibility. Not just that it was a great place to live, but that it was a great place to live that regular middle class people from the Midwest could easily experience. It hasn't been that in a long time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38283284)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:58 PM
Author: Cheese-eating bawdyhouse

And the reason for that is simply that there's too many people vying for resources. This is all a result of the incredibly misguided laser-focus on growth and expansion, which was my point to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38283308)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 1:03 PM
Author: honey-headed sandwich institution

What are you proposing exactly? That the chambers of commerce and whatnot stop marketing the state and try to keep it a secret?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38283337)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:19 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend

DKM

NE Ohio6h ago

Wow, just build more housing and all will be well. Brilliant!

How about this instead: pay living wages to all, and apply proper taxation to those who consume the most and/or use their money in non-productive ways, and see what happens when people not only can pay rent and utilities, but buy food, and afford a visit to the doctor or dentist (something that could be avoided to some extent if we had universal health care).

And, were we to get really efficient and look at the heart of the matter (or one of the hearts, to be honest), we'd discourage all those "efficient" modes of production, of business, that cuts out actual employees, installs robotic or foreign (non-US) employees, or otherwise circumvents employing Human US labor....all for the sake of profit.

Most people are quite willing to work. It just needs to be a equitable arrangement in respect to wages for work done. More often than not, it is not (and that is largely due to too many of life's necessities - food, shelter, utilities, healthcare - being over-priced and unfairly controlled by self-regulated entities.

But no, let's just build some houses. I mean, "homeless" just means "have no house", right?

Sheesh.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279061)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:28 PM
Author: Shivering Mind-boggling Home Incel

is a living wage a 350k household income in this mong's mind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279115)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:30 PM
Author: marvelous green cuckoldry field

*what clevelanders actually believe*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279122)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:40 PM
Author: Indecent Tanning Salon

Supply AND Demand?

that's CRAZY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279162)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 7:45 AM
Author: fragrant purple legend



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 11:21 PM
Author: orange apoplectic rigpig coldplay fan

libs have shit for brains



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280900)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 8:45 AM
Author: Disgusting talented hospital idiot

Wow, just overuse the fuck out of parentheses with stupid asides.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38282064)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:26 PM
Author: Shivering Mind-boggling Home Incel

put the NIMBYs on the trains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279107)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 5:29 PM
Author: Turquoise arousing tank

This will end well in California

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279121)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:13 PM
Author: Charismatic Beta Stag Film Generalized Bond

"More than that, metropolises are good for the psyche and the soul; density fosters tolerance, diversity, creativity and progress."

lol wut is this bitch smoking in her lib pipe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38279914)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 8:33 PM
Author: fragrant purple legend



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 9:10 PM
Author: Sexy Windowlicker Dysfunction

This was written by Farhad Manjoo, a notorious retard who used to be a simple, stupid reviewer of tech gadgets but who has since become a woke "thinker" musing over such weighty questions as, "do we need borders?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280181)



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:16 AM
Author: Brindle cerebral location

reads like a patrick bateman quote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#45097118)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 9:19 PM
Author: jet anal stain sanctuary

The Republicans need to grow some balls and run candidates with explicit NIMBY platforms.

The CA GOP can win, they just choose not to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38280226)



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Date: May 23rd, 2019 11:59 PM
Author: Multi-colored Theater Stage Community Account

Why is cramming more motherfuckers into San Francisco a good idea? It's a huge country. SPREAD DEM PEOPLE OUT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38281101)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:22 AM
Author: rambunctious library personal credit line

(Obama HUD)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38281205)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:23 AM
Author: Multi-colored Theater Stage Community Account

lol

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Date: May 24th, 2019 8:22 AM
Author: Sticky Charcoal Ceo Locus



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Date: May 24th, 2019 9:29 AM
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Date: May 24th, 2019 6:22 AM
Author: Indecent Tanning Salon

sorry civil defense bro

dem jobs be in dat bay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38281814)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 9:32 AM
Author: primrose free-loading old irish cottage temple

people need to just vote with their feet already. California is an overpriced over taxed liberal hellhole? then GET THE FUCK OUT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38282179)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 9:52 AM
Author: Rough-skinned pit

I went to a dinner party in Charleston a few months ago for a friend's birthday. We went to this beach-sushi place.

Out of 16 people there (all Lowcountry residents), 8 were from California. Everyone one was working in private business, i.e. no military personnel. We drank Stone IPA's and pondered how this is even possible. Much discussion was given to whether Melvin's Bacon Cheeseburger could be mentioned in the same sentence as a double-double.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38282264)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:56 PM
Author: drunken insane faggotry

sounds like world would be a better place if that diner party were bombed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38283299)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 1:25 PM
Author: Rough-skinned pit

Not cr, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38283458)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 3:34 PM
Author: dashing bearded resort gaping



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Date: May 24th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: Low-t turdskin ladyboy

That is exactly what is happening and why states like Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and Texas are being overrun with Californians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#38282924)



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Date: May 24th, 2019 1:49 PM
Author: Sticky Charcoal Ceo Locus

no worries brah they’re going to make every last place in the us into the overpriced high tax sanctuary shithold they fled

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Date: May 24th, 2019 3:37 PM
Author: ultramarine depressive



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Date: May 24th, 2019 12:22 PM
Author: Balding Navy Famous Landscape Painting Dopamine



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Date: August 30th, 2022 11:51 PM
Author: Brindle cerebral location



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Date: August 31st, 2022 12:00 AM
Author: orange apoplectic rigpig coldplay fan

"One of every 11,600 residents is a billionaire,"

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#45097042)



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Date: August 31st, 2022 1:05 AM
Author: Bisexual fuchsia house genital piercing

Does xo like NIMBYs or not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4267846&forum_id=2#45097374)