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NYT: Could Prostitution Be Next to Be Decriminalized?

ALBANY — Marijuana has gone mainstream, casino gamblin...
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  05/31/19
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Why not?
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coral free-loading crotch public bath
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I just don't see the appeal.
Disgusting Sanctuary
  05/31/19
Was expecting you to be first poaster in this thread and I w...
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said Kaytlin Bailey, a comedian and former prostitute who se...
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"clown" world
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“Comedian”
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yes
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can't wait to hear her jokes, no doubt hilarious
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Can we decriminalize murder so we can garrote all libs
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  05/31/19
incels will still find a reason to complain "SHE CHA...
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  05/31/19
lol at charging chad anything
Startled space deer antler
  05/31/19
(no prostitute in the history of the world)
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I suspect incels are the ones raging against this. "Fu...
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incels are for it. banning prostitution while chads and stac...
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  06/26/19
Hope so. American women would be unable to compete against 3...
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no worries wrt ur dads?
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Seriously, if you're worried about this then you have bigger...
Disgusting Sanctuary
  05/31/19
The Jewish mind at work, folks.
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LOL, Pepito is far more Jewish than I am.
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I poasted about this in a separate thread, but why not just ...
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“Stickier”
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Truly cruel that libs want to decriminalize whores but crimi...
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"but criminalize the incels who are marginalized from t...
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It’s quite possible they legalize hooking, but being a...
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The NORDIC model, it's one of the popular anti-john tactics ...
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It’s predicated on a lack of personal agency for femal...
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They're also ALWAYS victims.
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“And equally crucial not to decriminalize the pimps an...
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It’s legal in England. It’s like this in France.
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Would prevent 99% of mass shootings not committed by muslims
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Conservatives hate sex. Shitlibs hate sex. Who would support...
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Politicians with budget deficits. Same reason everyone is s...
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this is why i don't like these decisions. they aren't really...
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True, but sometimes you have to have shit like this happen t...
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eg $port$ gambling
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Or anything gambling.
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right.
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or anything sports
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Cash in the coffers is the ultimate non-bullshitable GNON pr...
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decriminalizing doesn't create tax revenue
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Doesn't it allow for the creation of "adult entertainme...
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the business is still illegal, it's just that everyone excep...
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Depends on if they're adopting the Nordic model or just decr...
Disgusting Sanctuary
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ok nvm, the NY bill in the OP is actually legalizing. shitli...
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Perhaps, but it is a battle between moralists (both conserva...
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What's pragmatic about people fucking up their lives?
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You can't stop people from fucking up their lives.
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You can decrease the opportunities for people to fuck up the...
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Are you pro-fornication?
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I think it is stupid to even mix that with policy. No one i...
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This is like the war on drugs. You actually cause more harm...
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shitlibs don't hate sex
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Some opponents of legalization support a form of partial dec...
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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:17 PM
Author: laughsome native boltzmann

ALBANY — Marijuana has gone mainstream, casino gambling is everywhere and sports wagering is spreading. Could prostitution be next?

Lawmakers across the country are beginning to reconsider how to handle prostitution, as calls for decriminalization are slowly gaining momentum.

Decriminalization bills have been introduced in Maine and Massachusetts; a similar bill is expected to be introduced to the City Council in Washington D.C. in June; and lawmakers in Rhode Island held hearings in April on a proposal to study the impact of decriminalizing prostitution.

New York may be next: Some Democratic lawmakers are about to propose a comprehensive decriminalization bill that would eliminate penalties for both women and men engaged in prostitution, as well as the johns whom they service.

“This is about the oldest profession, and understanding that we haven’t been able to deter or end it, in millennia,” said Senator Jessica Ramos, a Democrat from Queens who is one of the plan’s backers. “So I think it’s time to confront reality.”

The New York legislation appears unlikely to pass in the coming months, but the idea of decriminalization has already amassed a growing coterie of prominent supporters, suggesting that it might continue to gain traction.

The debate is unquestionably polarizing in many circles, even among advocates for sex-trafficked and abused women who fear that creating a legal path for prostitution will not eliminate, but rather actually encourage, underground sex trafficking.

And decriminalization is already facing intense pushback in state capitals from opponents who call the measures naïve and potentially dangerous.

Still, the issue has crept into the Democratic Party’s nascent presidential campaign: In late February, Senator Kamala Harris of California became the first candidate to endorse some manner of decriminalization, an idea also floated by another contender, the former Colorado governor, John Hickenlooper.

“When you’re talking about consenting adults, I think that yes, we should really consider that we can’t criminalize consensual behavior as long no one is being harmed,” said Ms. Harris, in an interview with The Root.

Supporters of decriminalization see their efforts as part of a larger, decades-long liberalization of American mores, like lifting Sunday bans on selling alcohol and legalizing marijuana. They also frame the issue as an act of harm-reduction for prostitutes and a tacit admission that modern law enforcement and age-old moral indignation has done little to stem the practice.

“We’ve learned this lesson many times with the prohibition of alcohol, or criminalization of abortion, or even the criminalization of marijuana: The black market creates dark circumstances and provides cover for a lot of violence and exploitation,” said Kaytlin Bailey, a comedian and former prostitute who serves as the spokeswoman for Decriminalize Sex Work, which was founded last year.

Prostitution is legal only in a few counties in Nevada, and even there, the brothel industry had to recently beat back a bill that would have outlawed prostitution in the state. And even the most optimistic of those pushing for changes do not believe that any state will soon fully decriminalize prostitution.

But in places like New York, where Democrats now control the State Legislature after a slew of Republican incumbents were unseated in November by Democratic challengers running on progressive platforms, there is no question that the environment has changed.

At a recent rally in Albany to repeal a statute criminalizing loitering for the purposes of prostitution, former sex workers stood next to lawmakers like Senator Ramos and Assemblyman Richard N. Gottfried, the chairman of the health committee.

Organizers of the protest cast their efforts as a civil and economic rights battle — reflecting a broader progressive passion for gay and transgender rights, as well as criminal justice reform — that was also defending the rights of minorities and illegal immigrants, and even “bodily autonomy,” the ability to make ends meet by any means necessary.

“I did not see sex as the problem,” said Jessica Raven, a community organizer and former underage prostitute who was one of dozens of sex workers who rallied in Albany in May. “I saw lack of stable housing as the problem.”

Nonetheless, some advocates for sex-trafficked and abused women characterize such efforts in New York and elsewhere as misguided. They believe that full decriminalization will create a demand that will be filled by more women.

“Prostitution is inherently violent,” said Ane Mathieson, a program specialist at Sanctuary for Families, a Manhattan-based organization that serves victims of domestic violence and is part of an anti-decriminalization coalition. “Sex buying promotes sex trafficking, promotes pimping and organized crime, and sexual exploitation of children.”

The push to present decriminalization as a civil rights issue also upset Laura Ramirez, a coordinator for AF3IRM, an international feminist group, who said she was “absolutely appalled at the fact that this is being sold as something that’s progressive.”

“This proposed legislation is the most classist, racist and absolutely obtuse legislation that we have ever seen,” Ms. Ramirez said, during a counterprotest opposing decriminalization in Albany, adding “women and girls of this state deserve better.”

Ms. Mathieson and others who work with women in the sex trade say that supporters of decriminalization gloss over a raft of gruesome details about the profession, including rape, physical abuse by clients and pimps, commonplace drug use and an often ravaging physical toll of multiple sex partners, sometimes in the span of a few hours.

“They have accepted a kind of myth about the sex industry of the happy hooker and victimless crimes,” said Dorchen Leidholdt, the head of the Center for Battered Women’s Legal Services at Sanctuary for Families in New York, adding, “It’s a fantasy perpetuated and accepted by the media.”

While decriminalization is unlikely to pass in New York this year, a pair of bills dealing with elements of prostitution appear to have a greater chance of passing, including one that would vacate nonprostitution-related crimes, like drug charges, from the records of victims of sex trafficking.

It recently advanced out of a Senate committee. A second bill would repeal loitering for the purposes of prostitution statute, a law that advocates say leads to unfair arrests of people — often transgender — for wearing skirts, carrying condoms or even “walking while trans.”

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a Democrat, has offered no opinion of those bills or of decriminalization, saying only that he would review such proposals.

The United States trails many other developed countries in considering the effects of decriminalizing prostitution, which is legal in such European countries as Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands, and in other parts of the world.

The results of such reforms are mixed: In New Zealand, for example, which decriminalized prostitution in 2003, a 2012 study found that “the vast majority of people involved in the sex industry are better off” with decriminalized conditions. But the report also added that “many sex workers were still vulnerable to ‘exploitative employment conditions’” and that some sex workers were being forced to take clients “against their will.”

It also found, however, that “the number of sex workers, and those workers underage, does not appear to have significantly changed” because of decriminalization.

Some opponents of legalization support a form of partial decriminalization known as the “Nordic model,” or the “End Demand” approach, which emphasizes the prosecution of people who buy sex, but not those who are selling their bodies, and offers prostitutes social services instead.

Such policies have high-profile supporters like Gloria Steinem, who offered her endorsement of the Nordic model at a recent demonstration at City Hall in New York City aimed at fighting efforts in Albany.

“It is crucial to decriminalize prostituted women, men and children,” Ms. Steinem wrote in a statement read at the rally. “And equally crucial not to decriminalize the pimps and traffickers who exploit them.”

Adding to the complexities around the issue, some opponents of full decriminalization, like Sanctuary for Families, support vacating criminal records and eliminating loitering statutes, a position also held by Decrim NY, the coalition behind the broader decriminalization push in New York.

The decriminalization bills offered by lawmakers in Massachusetts and Maine would create systems something akin to the “Nordic Model,” eliminating criminal penalties for prostitutes, but continuing to criminalize sex buyers and pimps.

The Massachusetts sponsor, Representative Kay Khan, a Democrat from Newton, Mass., said her bill would not only help end the ”cycle of trauma and incarceration” but would also save the state approximately $1 million per year that could be used for services like housing.

But State Senator Julia Salazar, a Brooklyn Democrat who ran a successful insurgent campaign for office last year that included an endorsement of decriminalization, said that the “Nordic model” did not solve the problem of prostitution because it still made sex workers “complicit in illegal activity.”

“It still would not bring the industry to the surface,” she said.

Still, she added that she had been “very pleasantly surprised” by how rapidly decriminalization has elevated “in the public discourse” over the last year.

Despite some progress, legislative achievements around prostitution have often been meager. The Maine bill was declared dead in the State Senate in late May, and other recent efforts have also stalled: in 2017, for instance, the New Hampshire House of Representatives narrowly passed a bill establishing a legislative committee to study decriminalizing sex work, like the current proposal in Rhode Island. But the New Hampshire bill stalled in the State Senate amid strong opposition from Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican.

The bill’s sponsor, Elizabeth Edwards, left office last year, but said she hopes that her former colleagues will continue to fight. “It seems like an area of policy where we could do way better,” she said.

“I wish the world knew that these are just people making money in a way that I think is a net societal benefit,” Ms. Edwards, a Democrat, added. “There are always going to be people that want sex. It’s a basic human drive. All you can do is make it safer.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/nyregion/presidential-candidates-prostitution.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320193)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:18 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320205)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:18 PM
Author: orange chest-beating sex offender

sick MND neg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320207)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

lolno

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320216)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:21 PM
Author: coral free-loading crotch public bath



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: Azure demanding cruise ship lettuce



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Date: May 31st, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: Glassy cracking home



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Date: June 1st, 2019 12:09 AM
Author: Submissive puce nibblets



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:21 PM
Author: aromatic state sandwich

You’re consistently one of the most tiny brained retards here, congratulations, faggot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320222)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:22 PM
Author: coral free-loading crotch public bath

"Uhh, and -- gosh my wife would kill me -- but how much for you to lick, you know, further down?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320230)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:29 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

God damn it, I don't want my ass licked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320270)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:34 PM
Author: floppy juggernaut house

Why not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320304)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:35 PM
Author: coral free-loading crotch public bath



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:35 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

I just don't see the appeal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320313)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 8:05 PM
Author: maize heady area

Was expecting you to be first poaster in this thread and I was not disappointed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38445021)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:18 PM
Author: Aqua spectacular menage

said Kaytlin Bailey, a comedian and former prostitute who serves as the spokeswoman for Decriminalize Sex Work, which was founded last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320206)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:19 PM
Author: aromatic state sandwich



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:24 PM
Author: Startled space deer antler

"clown" world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320243)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:29 PM
Author: Vivacious turquoise incel digit ratio

“Comedian”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320275)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:31 PM
Author: Startled space deer antler

yes

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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:19 PM
Author: mind-boggling aggressive lodge new version



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:20 PM
Author: nighttime razzle-dazzle range

can't wait to hear her jokes, no doubt hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320556)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: mind-boggling aggressive lodge new version

Here you go, friend! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN2R68OLncE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320563)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: aromatic state sandwich

Can we decriminalize murder so we can garrote all libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320217)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: Swollen Party Of The First Part

incels will still find a reason to complain

"SHE CHARGES CHAD HALF AS MUCH AS SHE CHARGES ME!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320219)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: Startled space deer antler

lol at charging chad anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320247)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:27 PM
Author: vermilion roast beef crackhouse

(no prostitute in the history of the world)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320258)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

I suspect incels are the ones raging against this. "Fuck, I'll have no excuse not to leave my basement and get laid and people will figure out that my screeds on how pussy is impossible to get is BS and that I'm just mentally ill, fuuuuuuck..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320266)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: Swollen Party Of The First Part



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Date: June 26th, 2019 7:42 PM
Author: purple site philosopher-king

incels are for it. banning prostitution while chads and stacies freely use hookup apps that commodify sex on a much greater scale is the rankest fucking hypocrisy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38444892)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: violent electric dilemma

Hope so. American women would be unable to compete against 3rd world sluts selling cut rate gash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320221)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 5:11 PM
Author: bull headed lay

I'd love to see a pulsing neon sign up in a seedy neighborhood that reads "CUT RATE GASH"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320842)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 7:31 PM
Author: Crusty Bronze Scourge Upon The Earth Temple



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:21 PM
Author: Scarlet Nursing Home Yarmulke



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:21 PM
Author: bistre federal toaster



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:22 PM
Author: Swollen Party Of The First Part

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320228)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: fragrant ungodly voyeur orchestra pit

no worries wrt ur dads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320262)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:34 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Seriously, if you're worried about this then you have bigger issues than this law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320305)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:43 PM
Author: aromatic state sandwich

The Jewish mind at work, folks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320366)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

LOL, Pepito is far more Jewish than I am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320387)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: bistre federal toaster



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:23 PM
Author: emerald theater dingle berry

sick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320233)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:24 PM
Author: coral free-loading crotch public bath

I poasted about this in a separate thread, but why not just permit erotic massage as sex work? That would allow legal sex work, while still avoiding stickier topics such as STDs and pregnancies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320238)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 8:08 PM
Author: maize heady area

“Stickier”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38445029)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: Sienna marvelous karate brunch

Truly cruel that libs want to decriminalize whores but criminalize the incels who are marginalized from the world of fucking and could be deterred from suicide via prostitutes

Might as well decriminalize drug dealing but criminalize addicts who buy the drugs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320248)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: Swollen Party Of The First Part

"but criminalize the incels who are marginalized from the world of fucking"

what legislation are they proposing to go after incels?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320259)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: Vivacious turquoise incel digit ratio

It’s quite possible they legalize hooking, but being a John remains illegal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320283)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:33 PM
Author: Stirring round eye liquid oxygen

The NORDIC model, it's one of the popular anti-john tactics where you pursue the men not the women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320292)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:36 PM
Author: vermilion roast beef crackhouse

It’s predicated on a lack of personal agency for females theory. Similar to why we don’t punish trees for falling on people and property.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320318)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:37 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

They're also ALWAYS victims.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320329)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 7:33 PM
Author: Crusty Bronze Scourge Upon The Earth Temple

We need to fix this loop hole. Burn the trees down. Burn it all down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38321508)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:37 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320327)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:35 PM
Author: Sienna marvelous karate brunch

“And equally crucial not to decriminalize the pimps and traffickers who exploit them.”

"The decriminalization bills offered by lawmakers in Massachusetts and Maine would create systems something akin to the “Nordic Model,” eliminating criminal penalties for prostitutes, but continuing to criminalize sex buyers and pimps."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320310)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:40 PM
Author: bistre federal toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320347)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:41 PM
Author: vermilion roast beef crackhouse

It’s legal in England. It’s like this in France.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320353)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: vermilion roast beef crackhouse

Would prevent 99% of mass shootings not committed by muslims

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320267)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 3:54 PM
Author: Abnormal Station Macaca

Conservatives hate sex. Shitlibs hate sex. Who would support this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320412)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:06 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Politicians with budget deficits. Same reason everyone is suddenly pushing for legal weed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320469)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:11 PM
Author: coral free-loading crotch public bath

this is why i don't like these decisions. they aren't really being made with a careful weighing of the benefits and drawbacks, nor are they being made for the purpose of saying "the gov't shouldn't legislate against this, but we should probably discourage this behavior for a number of reasons".

instead they are being made simply for cash in the coffers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320509)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:16 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

True, but sometimes you have to have shit like this happen to get the right result (which is that it is stupid to ban something that has been going on since the beginning of time and happens in every country whether it is legal or not).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320532)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: nighttime razzle-dazzle range

eg $port$ gambling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320559)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:22 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Or anything gambling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320564)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:23 PM
Author: coral free-loading crotch public bath

right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320574)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:24 PM
Author: Khaki Contagious Hissy Fit Forum

or anything sports

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320579)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 10:28 PM
Author: Narrow-minded mad-dog skullcap bawdyhouse

Cash in the coffers is the ultimate non-bullshitable GNON principle. the ultimate justification for policy is sustainability.

In contrast, the essence of shitlibbery is policy made contrary to the flow of cash into the coffers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38322428)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:18 PM
Author: Khaki Contagious Hissy Fit Forum

decriminalizing doesn't create tax revenue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320541)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:20 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Doesn't it allow for the creation of "adult entertainment companies" that officially pay their employees?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320551)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:22 PM
Author: Khaki Contagious Hissy Fit Forum

the business is still illegal, it's just that everyone except the woman gets in trouble. the owner goes to prison as a pimp / human trafficker, the customer likely spends a night in jail, pays fines, and has a sex offense record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320568)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:25 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Depends on if they're adopting the Nordic model or just decriminalizing. They're conflating the concepts together but they're obviously totally different. The Nordic model is just a shift in how you fight prostitution.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320588)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:26 PM
Author: Khaki Contagious Hissy Fit Forum

ok nvm, the NY bill in the OP is actually legalizing. shitlibs will definitely change this if anything actually passes though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320594)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Perhaps, but it is a battle between moralists (both conservative and lib) and pragmatists here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38320604)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 8:08 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy up-to-no-good senate tattoo

What's pragmatic about people fucking up their lives?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38321691)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:22 AM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

You can't stop people from fucking up their lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38322991)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:24 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy up-to-no-good senate tattoo

You can decrease the opportunities for people to fuck up their lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324273)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:25 PM
Author: Chocolate Affirmative Action

Not giving people criminal records for fucking seems like a great way to decrease those opportunities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324278)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324538)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:52 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy up-to-no-good senate tattoo

Why can't people stop fucking out of wedlock?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324551)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:54 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

Oh stfu. No one is even discussing that. If you want to make that the proposal then go ahead and see how much traction that gets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324556)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:56 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy up-to-no-good senate tattoo

Are you pro-fornication?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324567)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:59 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

I think it is stupid to even mix that with policy. No one is banning fornication. It isn't even being discussed. So what you're talking about is allowing tinder and all the other shit but drawing the line at paying for sex for no particular reason. It is dumb. It also serves to benefit the top 3% of males and fuck over something like 70-80% (the rest are neutral).

Though I suppose I'd be against banning fornication too so I guess you would say I'm "pro-fornication".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324583)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary

This is like the war on drugs. You actually cause more harm to people by arresting people than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324541)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:11 PM
Author: laughsome native boltzmann

shitlibs don't hate sex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324224)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: Chocolate Affirmative Action

Some opponents of legalization support a form of partial decriminalization known as the “Nordic model,” or the “End Demand” approach, which emphasizes the prosecution of people who buy sex, but not those who are selling their bodies, and offers prostitutes social services instead."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324267)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: Abnormal Station Macaca

They do when straight men are involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324547)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:52 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324549)



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Date: May 31st, 2019 11:56 PM
Author: maize heady area

lol jewish shitlibs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38322768)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:17 PM
Author: Comical Hideous Whorehouse

This is so ridiculously common-sense that it will be one of the few issues that will manage to unite raging feminists and incels in opposition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324241)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:18 PM
Author: Chocolate Affirmative Action

"Some opponents of legalization support a form of partial decriminalization known as the “Nordic model,” or the “End Demand” approach, which emphasizes the prosecution of people who buy sex, but not those who are selling their bodies, and offers prostitutes social services instead.

Such policies have high-profile supporters like Gloria Steinem, who offered her endorsement of the Nordic model at a recent demonstration at City Hall in New York City aimed at fighting efforts in Albany.

“It is crucial to decriminalize prostituted women, men and children,” Ms. Steinem wrote in a statement read at the rally. “And equally crucial not to decriminalize the pimps and traffickers who exploit them.”

Feminists just want to chance to punish men who have the audacity to pay for sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324248)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: Disgusting Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324546)



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Date: June 1st, 2019 1:25 PM
Author: Vibrant travel guidebook old irish cottage

will never happen...prostitution was de facto legal in most western cities until WOMEN GOT THE VOTE.. women don't like prostitution because it lessens their own sexual value...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38324287)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 8:01 PM
Author: painfully honest talented location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38445003)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 8:02 PM
Author: 180 at-the-ready cuckold

nyuug on a plane back to NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4273696&forum_id=2#38445008)