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eating meat is completely indefensible
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:09 PM Author: Frozen Forum 1. Causing unneeded suffering and misery of a sentient animal, unless inflicting suffering on the animal is required to save a human life, is immoral.
2. The consumption of meat causes unnecessary suffering and misery towards animals, without being required to save a human life
3. Eating meat is immoral
Tell me where I'm wrong. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:10 PM Author: arrogant resort generalized bond youre not wrong but I can't stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372549) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:10 PM Author: Frozen Forum yeah same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372554) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: boyish people who are hurt abode Can't stop; won't stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372590) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:10 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372552) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:11 PM Author: dark school Where is your morality derived from? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372557) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:12 PM Author: Frozen Forum The environment in which I live and share with other living things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372562) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:14 PM Author: wonderful jap lodge lol you dumb faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372571) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:14 PM Author: Frozen Forum Fine, how about the golden rule - treat other living things the way you wish to be treated.
Where does your morality come from |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:15 PM Author: arrogant resort generalized bond probably some gay dweeb philosophical position (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372581) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: Galvanic silver hall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372600) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: stimulating talking theater stage cuck The golden rule is treat other PEOPLE as u wish to be treated, u 105 iq “human” neckbeard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372611) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:33 PM Author: Frozen Forum so we should be allowed to abuse puppies? animals have zero moral standing in your judgement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373499) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:20 PM Author: Internet-worthy fiercely-loyal psychic step-uncle's house gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372617) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:27 PM Author: wonderful jap lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372659) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:36 PM Author: dark school Sounds pretty ephemeral. What else does that "morality" tell you about abortion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372729) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:31 PM Author: Frozen Forum is "life begins at conception" too ephemeral for you, too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374043) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:36 PM Author: dark school "The environment in which I live and share with other living thing" I am trying to find out what the fuck this means, since -- right now -- "the environment in which I live and share with other living things" doesn't seem to agree on whether abortion is morally permitted or not. So where does your morality come from? |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:56 PM Author: Frozen Forum I'm pro life dummy
Our concept of morality comes from our interaction with other people and living things and our environment.
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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:23 PM Author: dark school I understood that from your post (that you are pro-life). Still think your concept of morality is banal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374274) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: Galvanic silver hall (Jay Cutler) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372568) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:15 PM Author: 180 snowy chapel whoa yeah life itself is immoral. very big brained take here
what's next, are you then gonna tell us we should exterminate all life since it's intrinsically immoral? |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: Frozen Forum "Life itself is immoral"
wow high-IQ hot take. let's accept that life is immoral and kill/rape anyone and do anything because life is immoral so let's just not even try to do better. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: 180 snowy chapel i'm paraphrasing your OP, genius
claiming that it is immoral to consume other life forms in order to sustain your own life is a claim that life itself is immoral. which is, of course, fucking retarded, just like you |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker This is a really bad reading of the OP dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372622) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:39 PM Author: 180 snowy chapel it is what his claim actually is when distilled down to its actual substance. evolution has resulted in life forms that consume other life forms. this is not "immoral," it's just what life is. are we going to go around and force-feed lions and tigers corn?
the eating meat = immoral take is some 18 year old redditor Babby's First Cognitive Dissonance shit |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:49 PM Author: sienna prole puppy Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372804) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:48 PM Author: offensive sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373242) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:14 PM Author: stimulating talking theater stage cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373377) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:20 PM Author: Frozen Forum for thousands of years it was, raping women and killing guys from a different village was "just what life is." we established moral rules and laws to move beyond that.
either you think sentient animals (esp. cows, pigs etc) are subject to moral judgement, or do not. If you don't, then why do we even have organizations like the Humane Society, etc?
I'm not saying animals have the exact same moral standing as humans, just they the should have moral consideration. And if they do, it's hard to justify why torturing and klling them is at least in some way immoral. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:27 PM Author: Electric mewling weed whacker athletic conference evolution has also resulted in grown men who are sexually attracted to children. immoral? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373453) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:06 PM Author: titillating rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373927) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:23 PM Author: marvelous police squad Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372627) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:15 PM Author: Red Stain (Literal faggot) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372583) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Frozen Forum Go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372586) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: Red Stain You're just a huge faggot, no need to discuss your positions. IRL you likely have a weak handshake and are a skinny fat bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372604) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: Frozen Forum So you've got nothing, ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372609) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: Stirring french partner school cafeteria eating meat is not immoral (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372614) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Where does the OP go wrong then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372620) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:23 PM Author: Stirring french partner school cafeteria points 1 and 2. both are not accurate and not correct even if they were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372636) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:24 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Pick one and let’s discuss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372640) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Stirring french partner school cafeteria or how about you eat my ass instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372644) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Eating ass is immoral too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372648) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: stimulating talking theater stage cuck Date: June 11th, 2019 12:14 PM Author: ......,.,........,.,.,.,....,,
Fine, how about the golden rule - treat other living things the way you wish to be treated. Where does your morality come from
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#
You are a flat out liar, you deserve no further engagement |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: marvelous police squad Also, meat’s effects on the human body are terrible. Eating meat and dairy causes heart disease, diabetes, altzheimers, cancer, etc., which runs up our medical costs to ridiculous levels. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372601) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Not true, at least of dairy. This is just scaremongering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372607) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:29 PM Author: marvelous police squad Dairy is actually just as bad if not worse than meat health wise. Eggs contain higher cholesterol levels than any meat which accelerates athrosclerosis faster than meat. Dairy has been linked with breast and prostate cancer. Id link you some studies but Im at work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372677) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:35 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Eggs aren’t dairy, my friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372721) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:43 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Also, for reference the data overwhelmingly suggests that milk is health promoting and associated with improved health metrics without any indication it is cancer, obesity, or other disease promoting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372758) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:48 PM Author: marvelous police squad Patently false, but carry on with your milk drinking and enjoy taking your ED meds and you prostate pills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372798) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:52 PM Author: sienna prole puppy LOL at your naive understanding of scientific research without the slightest clue about the limitations of these studies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372824) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:07 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker I have no idea who you are, but I’m willing to bet I know more about this than you do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372938) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:43 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area Hey einstein, eggs aren't dairy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372760) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:21 PM Author: arrogant resort generalized bond lmao at the panicking evil meatcucks in this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372624) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:23 PM Author: sickened center ladyboy weird how, according to you, only humans have to abide by this "don't kill other animals" meme, while every other animals gets to slaughter animals like it's nbd for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372631) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:24 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Don’t think he said that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372642) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Blue Trailer Park Boltzmann libs in a nutshell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372645) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: arrogant resort generalized bond yea if they get to I should get to! Its only fair! lmao meatcucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372646) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:33 PM Author: marvelous police squad Yeah, because every other animal has a choice, right? Just tell those lions to change around their anatomy so they can live off of fruits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372705) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: sickened center ladyboy what does "choice" have to do with anything? Humans (an animal) eat meat. Lions eat meat. But Humans are the bad guys here. Why do you rebel against nature? Are you jewish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372769) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:46 PM Author: marvelous police squad Not sure if youre being intentionally obtuse, but the difference is that lions and other carnivore species cannot survive without eating meat. Humans can survive and thrive without it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372792) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: sickened center ladyboy So what? we have an evolutionary advantage of having a broader diet, which happens to include meat. Why are you rebelling against nature when its our nature to eat meat, among other things? Let me guess, you're jewish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372811) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:54 PM Author: Red Stain Jew or Indian almost certainly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372838) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: offensive sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373251) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area LOTS of factory farms are run by big cats and the like (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372770) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:21 PM Author: Frozen Forum extremely low IQ interpretation of my point. jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373421) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: irradiated organic girlfriend preventive strike Post a Nutrition Facts link or
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:57 PM Author: sienna prole puppy seems like it. is OP from BYND or one of the other imitators? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372860) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:27 PM Author: Exciting Crackhouse Cumskin (Shitlib who LOVES abortion) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372662) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:36 PM Author: aphrodisiac adulterous stage therapy cr,
people's morality is rationalized backwards from the patterns of how they live their lives |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:22 PM Author: Frozen Forum I'm very pro-life for similar reasons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373427) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:21 PM Author: Exciting Crackhouse Cumskin (Sean Muttaqi) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374013) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:30 PM Author: sickened center ladyboy OP eats crickets and other bugs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372679) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:30 PM Author: Soggy Swashbuckling Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372681) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:32 PM Author: Claret Cruel-hearted Brunch Halford I agree that it sucks eating meat, but consider the following:
1 - a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle also kills a shitload of plants & animals through deforestation & then trapping and killing millions of animals that would otherwise eat the crops. this is massively downplayed by vegetarians & vegans
2 - the human body is designed for meat consumption; indeed, vegans are sickly & weak looking, pale, they don't get enough nutrients. whereas meat eaters have lots more strength and get the nutrients they need. how can it be "immoral" when it maximizes our body's capacities? |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: marvelous police squad 1. This has been debunked by studies done where they used radio transmitters and found that mice and rabbits moved out of the way of combines. Besides, something like 70% of the plants we produce go to feeing livestock, so using your argument, there would be less deforestation and trapping and killing of animals if everyone adopted a vegan diet.
2. The human body is not designed for meat consumption, it is the opposite actually which is why meat and dairy messes us up so bad with heart disease, cancer, etc. To your comment about performance, many professional athletes have adopted a vegan diet and have experienced performance gains including prominent NFL and NBA players. US olympic weightlifter Kendrick Ferris is vegan as well as the worlds strongest man. I think its safe to say that there is no performance benefit to eating meat or dairy. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Talented black house windowlicker Ferris is not even close to the world’s strongest man. He didn’t even get close to medaling in his weight class last olympics. Are you high? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372771) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:45 PM Author: Wine pit codepig So the mice and rabbits just jump at the last second? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372784) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:49 PM Author: marvelous police squad They move out of the way as the combine approaches. Just like a dog or any other animal would when a loud machine is coming up on them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372806) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:52 PM Author: Claret Cruel-hearted Brunch Halford this is retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372825) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: marvelous police squad Its retarded that animals dont want to be pulverized in a combine? Lolz. Google the study if you dont believe me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372846) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:31 PM Author: lavender dragon lololol:
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
They move out of the way as the combine approaches.
[guy who has never been on a combine] |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: boyish people who are hurt abode I ran over a squirrel this morning. Not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373889) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:53 PM Author: Claret Cruel-hearted Brunch Halford why does hong kong have the highest meat consumption in the world and the highest lifespan?
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4251957&mc=22&forum_id=2 |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: marvelous police squad Most likely they more recently adopted a heavy meat based diet that hasnt manifested its effects yet. Your anecodotal arguments are cute though “muh grandaddy ate meat hiz hol life and died at 92!”. Google the blue zones for a counterpoint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372873) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:18 PM Author: sienna prole puppy You're flaming right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373020) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:37 PM Author: Cerebral Zombie-like Alpha Actually cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373162) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: Cerebral Zombie-like Alpha #1 - are you fucking retarded? You know livestock has to eat, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372740) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:46 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area "Meat" is the converted form of those plants after they're processed in a cow or pig body. Much of the nutritional and caloric density is lost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372790) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:33 PM Author: fear-inspiring excitant bawdyhouse macaca We evolved as meet eaters. Is our biology inherently immoral? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372711) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:42 PM Author: marvelous police squad Just because we are capable of eating meat to our own detriment (that is cooked) does not mean that we “evolved as meat eaters.” Our canine teeth are puny compared to canivore species, our stomach is not nearly acidic enough and our intestines are way too long for us to have evolved as meat eaters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372755) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:47 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area Evidence indicates we did not at all evolve as meat eaters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372793) |
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Date: July 6th, 2019 8:12 AM Author: Ruby motley volcanic crater https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/04/20/150817741/for-most-of-human-history-being-an-omnivore-was-no-dilemma
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:40 PM Author: rough-skinned yellow principal's office tattoo Counterpoint: you've never eaten A5 Miyazaki (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372746) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:57 PM Author: boyish people who are hurt abode Tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373892) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:43 PM Author: fighting bearded rigpig yarmulke it's a circle of life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372764) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:01 PM Author: comical black woman dopamine Yea, Mufasa explained all of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372888) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:51 PM Author: lascivious mad-dog skullcap It's cute that OP still believes in morality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372818) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: Frozen Forum This is the opposite type of thinking that built massive civilizations, allowed humans to run this shit world, etc.
If animals have a problem with being farmed and butchered for our enjoyment they should do something about it. Oh, right, they can't! Oops!
If it makes you feel any better, if it wasn't for meat consumption billions of animals would never come into existence, have trillions of experiences, etc. Blending male chicks is pretty cruel tho. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: arrogant resort generalized bond Lmao at the pathetic arguments of meatcucks. The factory farmed animals should just be happy they exist! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372870) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:01 PM Author: marvelous police squad Seriously. Anyone with a clue would rather not exist than live that life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372889) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:03 PM Author: Stirring french partner school cafeteria cows have pretty 180 lives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372900) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:04 PM Author: sickened center ladyboy *strums sitar* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372905) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372952) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: Internet-worthy fiercely-loyal psychic step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372953) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:10 PM Author: marvelous police squad The males most likely are killed at a few days old or used as veal (read up on this if you want to be depressed). The ones that are used for meat are castrated and killed at maybe 10% of their natural lifespan.
The females are forcibly impregnanted again and again and have their babies taken from them which is devestating psychologically. When they stop producing as much milk and being less profitable, they are killed, again far before their natural lifespan.
Which part of that seems 180 to you? |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:21 PM Author: Internet-worthy fiercely-loyal psychic step-uncle's house The part where I'm chewing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373035) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:52 PM Author: Stirring french partner school cafeteria all of it. they get to chill and get fat and not be extinct. if cows didn't taste good they wouldn't exist. lol at some dumbshit cow having psychological damage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373277) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 7:26 PM Author: Salmon Plaza Toilet Seat Excluding fish there is nothing remotely "chill" about the way that 99.98% of animals are raised for food.
Cows are not dumb. They have good memories, friends, and social hierarchies, and are smarter than dogs. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: dark school What about beef raised humanely-- not on factory farms. Lives seem pretty chill up until the slaughter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372944) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area The "BUT WHAT IF SHE WAS RAPED" argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372962) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:19 PM Author: dark school ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373027) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:54 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area Frequency of occurrence rounds to zero, not really material to the debate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373293) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:39 PM Author: cobalt private investor Actually worth addressing to get to the abstract points of morality presented rather than the factual current state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373815) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:53 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area My opinion: raising livestock for self-sufficiency is not immoral and neither is hunting. "Farming" livestock for profit is not defensible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373877) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:12 PM Author: dark school From a moral perspective? Which is why I take factory farms out of the equation. Like think of farming in medieval France, where you might have a mix of self-sufficiency and profit (excess traded for other goods like clothing etc.) but the animals are treated pretty humanely-- open pastures, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373966) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:34 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area I think we agree that eating meat is not per se immoral. Meat hunted from the wild or raised personally in a humane way I think is okay. The proto-capitalist market exchange of primitively raised meat you described is a gray area to me. Regardless, I believe the incidence rate of morally permissible meat eating makes it not really significant to the discussion of general meat eating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374046) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:01 PM Author: Internet-worthy fiercely-loyal psychic step-uncle's house this is you: https://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/07/pajama-boy-screenshot.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372890) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: arrogant resort generalized bond https://thomasnastcartoons.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/the-usual-way-of-doing-things-ohio-state.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372920) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: apoplectic community account mood Op is boring flame copying and pasting talking points from a reddit thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38372848) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:32 PM Author: Light Very Tactful Electric Furnace Range 10 year old Peter Singer shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373108) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:14 PM Author: pungent learning disabled kitchen OP's argument falls completely apart when u consider the T-junction he presents
Our current road: We keep eating meat. Meat eating is seen as a vague sort of luxury and requires much more land use to feed someone. Poor retards are unable to eat meat and die from malnutrition. Human population stabilizes around this point of contention and a eugenics is performed.
Shitlib herbivore fagworld: We become grassmos. When the eternal anglo presented high yield grains to the 3rd world, the world population quickly skyrocketed, all of it being 3rd world trash people. By forcing vegetarian lifestyles, all that land we had to support livestock is now converted into land to support more hue-man trash. The world population will spike to obscene levels, except the ratio of whites to nonwhites will not work in our favor, leading to an extremely fragile hellworld as OP is proposing.
This is something that libs don't 'get'. Luxury goods like meat are the reason why economies of scale are even allowed to exist. Luxury items are store of value, and a way of converting the excess raw materials that we collect into complex, relatively expensive products. An economy around luxury items having worth means that we will always produce an excess in relation to what each individual person should consume, and in hard times, we can abandon these luxuries temporarily without adverse impact. Compare that to a libworld filled with 500 million whites and 20 billion nigs. One fragility event like a supervolcano going off will be a complete disaster as every crop producing piece of land is already operating at maximum output and efficiency. NTY. |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:38 PM Author: Frozen Forum tats, did you even read my OP? I make zero appeals to the environment or economics. I'm arguing from a purely moralistic perspective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373813) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:54 PM Author: fighting bearded rigpig yarmulke Your OP says eating meat is "completely indefensible." Environment or economics seem like reasonable defenses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38373881) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:31 PM Author: Frozen Forum moralistic reasoning is sufficient for pro-life people (like myself) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374038) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:35 PM Author: Umber out-of-control area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374049) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:44 PM Author: Frisky Saffron Spot lol at grassmos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374083) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 7:29 PM Author: Salmon Plaza Toilet Seat Avoiding meat is not solely the domain of shitlib fagworld. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38385335) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:03 PM Author: blathering menage mexican I think it's wrong, so everyone should think it's wrong.
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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:12 PM Author: topaz zippy heaven telephone it also makes you fat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374228) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:22 PM Author: fantasy-prone locale Existence is to be preferred to nonexistence absent extraordinary suffering Livestock would cease to exist if they were not eventually slaughtered Humanely raised livestock would, were they rational, choose to continue to exist even though they will die |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:23 PM Author: dark school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374276) |
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Date: June 12th, 2019 9:08 AM Author: Sapphire infuriating parlor reading party cr
all living things die - the choice here with respect to livestock is not life or death - it is non-existence versus existence with a less than full life span - sounds like a good deal for livestock |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:16 PM Author: Frozen Forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374738) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:34 PM Author: shaky immigrant boistinker Flame. It's easily defensible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374800) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:40 PM Author: Frozen Forum Go for it then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374836) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:40 PM Author: shaky immigrant boistinker Tastes great. Done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374844) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:41 PM Author: Frozen Forum OK, I know you're being glib, but can you at least attempt to address the argument in the OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374849) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:42 PM Author: shaky immigrant boistinker Why would I or anyone else give two shits about your morals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374860) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:43 PM Author: Frozen Forum They aren't *my* morals - I make a set broad moral claims. If you dispute them, tell me where I'm wrong or where you disagree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374868) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:46 PM Author: shaky immigrant boistinker They aren't mine either. That's why I don't care about them. It's not a matter of disagreeing with your principles or morals or whatever you choose to cast them FRIEND. They are irrelevant to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374886) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:47 PM Author: Frozen Forum So why are you even engaging in this thread? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374889) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:48 PM Author: shaky immigrant boistinker Because your thread title is silly and I'm bored. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374896) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:52 PM Author: Frozen Forum Have you ever seen a slaughterhouse video? Do you not care/make the connection between what happens to the animal and what shows up on your plate? srs q (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374923) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:57 PM Author: shaky immigrant boistinker I have been to a slaughterhouse and have killed many animals myself. I have also butchered my own meat. But that doesn't really have much to do with your OP or thread title since that's not an argument against killing animals and eating meat but rather current practices. But no, it doesn't bother me either way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374955) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:43 PM Author: free-loading sanctuary why are animals sentient? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374864) |
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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:44 PM Author: Frozen Forum Would you feel bad if puppies were hung upside down and had their throats slit for meat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38374871) |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 7:06 PM Author: rebellious dun state Agree that CAFO is immoral.
But old-school pasture raised animals have a great life. One cow can feed you for 6 months with minimal harm. |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 7:07 PM Author: Soggy Swashbuckling Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38385234) |
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Date: June 18th, 2019 11:41 AM Author: razzle tank what percentage of peta vegans are also pro-life wrt abortion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#38405262) |
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Date: July 6th, 2019 7:53 AM Author: Pale slimy whorehouse Almost everything you consume and use has externalities on the environment and animals, just some more direct than others. You'd be wrong to drive a car and use roads because it causes avoidable suffering from killing animals and displacing entire habitats. Because there's a degree of separation, it would not be immoral even though driving contributes widespread suffering?
1. The use of cars (and the industries required to sustain them) causes unnecessary suffering and misery toward animals, without being required to save a human life.
2. Driving a car is immoral.
A less hypocritical argument would be that consumerism is immoral. |
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Date: October 20th, 2019 10:55 AM Author: Lake institution legal warrant Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#39002970) |
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Date: October 20th, 2019 11:03 AM Author: Slate Cowardly Tanning Salon Bbw Was he saying eating meat makes you less human? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280754&forum_id=2#39002985) |