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Quote comparing 1984 w/Brave New World, compare to modern life
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:01 PM Author: buck-toothed theatre "What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that our fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440503) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:03 PM Author: Twinkling Glittery Reading Party Principal's Office 2019 America is some heinous hybrid of both visions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440512) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:15 PM Author: Mind-boggling crystalline dilemma private investor Seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440567) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:44 PM Author: Elite fishy selfie hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440773) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 3:43 AM Author: contagious mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38441404) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 10:18 AM Author: Self-centered public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38442273) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:04 PM Author: Turquoise native And neither could have foreseen that white people would just commit suicide and the muds would take over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440516) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:06 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Your "country" is a gas station with nukes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440527) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:08 PM Author: Turquoise native But one with a genetic future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440531) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:11 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution LOL get a one way ticket to Siberia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440543) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:12 PM Author: Turquoise native I would rather bring the Red Army here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440548) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:17 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution No, the best you can do is park a ship in Cuba for attention. Russia: Give us attention! We're tough! Don't you notice us!? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440578) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: Turquoise native One day at a time.... Russia is immortal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440587) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:19 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Russia is a Mobil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440598) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:19 PM Author: Turquoise native With warships parked 70 miles from your coast forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440604) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:23 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Oh What A Threat!
Wait until we regime change Cuba and finally cut the Castro cancer out and liberate the island from having anything to do with them or Russia by proxy. |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:28 PM Author: Turquoise native The island of freedom needs no liberation and is doing quite well under the warm loving embrace of the Soviet Union and our Chinese comrades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440653) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:29 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Yeah ask the Cubans who literally swam or floating in floaty rings to Miami risking their lives to get out of Hell Island what they think of the Castros.
Your evil empire's days are numbered. Patton was right we should have continued past Berlin straight to Moscow. |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:32 PM Author: Turquoise native Because Yankee sponsored paradises like Equador and El Salvador are doing better....Turds gonna turd. Cuba relative to it peer group of shitholes is doing better than the rest. Cuba has the same GDP per capita as Yankee Dominican Republic and that’s with Yankee sanctions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440697) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:34 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Oh, I guess they're doing great then!
See, freedom is about choices, and you can choose to suck if you want.
Soviets want to force you to suck, that's the difference. |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:37 PM Author: Turquoise native We don’t care what they do so long as we can base missiles and ships there to point at you and your orange retard POTUS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440737) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:41 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Putin is scared of Trump, who even cares? We barely pay attention to Russia, we're trying to deal with a freakshow that actually has an economy like China. Russia literally has to beg for attention nowadays.
At least you admit your ploys for control are simply cynical Russian domination, but even your domination of Cuba is ending bc the people hate you and the leadership is finally dying out. |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:44 PM Author: Milky degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440776) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:45 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution At some point, I hope to escape this moral and spiritual cess pool. We'll see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440787) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:45 PM Author: Turquoise native Russia’s grip on Cuba is the strongest it’s been in 35ish years actually. The current Cuban government is both Putinist and reformist and it’s growing GDP 4.4% per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440784) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: Claret Brunch Hairy Legs To be fair, his country is America and it's not clear at all that Russia has working nukes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440588) |
Date: June 25th, 2019 10:06 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution How could both be so right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440523) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:09 PM Author: Turquoise native I prefer the boot stomping on a human face for eternity myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440533) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:09 PM Author: buck-toothed theatre "Citizens of the World State enjoy racial, social and economic harmony across the planet. Although England is seen to be mostly populated with Caucasians, the population also contains substantial ethnic proportions, and across the planet, people of different racial heritage live alongside one another in harmony. When visiting an electrical products factory in London, John witnesses Caucasians and black Senegalese working together. The only "feely" (see below) in the novel features a black antagonist with a white heroine. An official at the Central London Hatchery explains that Negro fetuses are slightly easier to grow than Caucasians or Asians."
"In addition to racial harmony, gender roles appear to have been eliminated in the World State. Both men and women are equals in society. However, a third pseudo-sex has been engineered: freemartins, a hermaphroditic group of humans who appear to have been grown as, and conditioned to live in society as females, but are sterile and exhibit some male characteristics, including the growth of facial hair. The purpose of their creation is to allow citizens to engage in sexual intercourse for pleasure without the constant need for contraception. Despite the existence of Freemartins, contraception is heavily emphasized among the baseline female population, through the deeply-conditioned habitual use of Malthusian Belts."
"In order to enhance consumerism and so keep the economy strong, people are encouraged to throw away old or damaged possessions and buy new ones. "
"Architecture is dominated by "vitra-glass" and "ferroconcrete" skyscrapers. Men shave using electrolytic razors and consume sex-hormone chewing gum. "
"The novel repeatedly explains that the reason for such advanced technology is to keep workers busy manufacturing products. However, the citizens of the World State could enjoy significantly better devices. In a conversation towards the end of the novel, World Controller Mustapha Mond explains to John that countless plans and designs for more advanced technologies already exist. The World State could, he explains, synthetically manufacture all of its food products and use highly efficient labour-saving machines. However, more advanced technology is not developed, as the World Controllers fear that high-tech machines would result in people having too much time on their hands. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_State_in_Brave_New_World |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:14 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution lol jesus Christ
they can do everything with technology but they want to "keep us busy"
make trinkets - buy trinkets - make trinkets - buy trinkets - always a new iPhone! This one has a bigger screen! More apps! Oh, gimme! gimme! |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:15 PM Author: buck-toothed theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440568) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:13 PM Author: Frozen rebellious rigor Both were completely inadequate analyses because they did not deal with race/jews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440555) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:15 PM Author: buck-toothed theatre Brave New World literally has a scene in which people gather in a movie theater to watch an interracial porn. You are an idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440564) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:15 PM Author: Turquoise native Just another day in Manfuckinghattan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440571) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: Frozen rebellious rigor Race is not a significant theme in the book, and is completely irrelevant to its depictions and predictions of social control (whereas IRL, forced mongrelization of euro populations, not test-tube births, is *the* preeminent mode of control). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440629) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:54 PM Author: Sapphire Bat-shit-crazy Office You should delete your comments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440826) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:56 PM Author: Frozen rebellious rigor You should stfu and reread the book (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440834) |
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Date: June 25th, 2019 10:16 PM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution It sounds like disparate groups in the World State got along fine, and that would include Jews, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38440575) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 3:39 AM Author: titillating insanely creepy idiot Lol at 2 retarded jews arguing endlessly ITT. Its just like CNN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38441402) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 8:06 AM Author: cruel-hearted opaque prole locus Huxley then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38441779) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 6:58 AM Author: buck-toothed theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38441684) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 8:00 AM Author: Massive razzmatazz area China : 1984 :: America : Brave New World (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38441770) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 10:16 AM Author: shaky ruddy toaster roommate Though lesser known, Player Piano is the better dystopian novel. Vonnegut doesn't create some elaborate society whose structure is beyond our comprehension. The universe in Player Piano looks just like ours. He uses the institutions that were around in the 50's (and today) and tells a story of how all of us will lose our dignity in the face of technological advancement. Vonnegut nails all of the trends we talk about (automation/AI decision-making, oligarchic economic structure, consumerism, make-work gov projects and/or military to keep the masses occupied, educational-industrial complex, over-credentialism (the real estate agent has a phd, lol), president is a dumb actor and ineffectual, prole escapism in role-playing games and alcohol etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38442262) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 10:17 AM Author: concupiscible azure tank institution Haha, wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38442269) |
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Date: June 26th, 2019 6:10 PM Author: buck-toothed theatre ty, will read (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4290174&forum_id=2#38444530) |