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Insulin: $300 a vial here; $25 in Canada. Contards explain
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:16 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Because, uh, freedom, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559226) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:52 PM Author: Odious Old Irish Cottage Trump proposed a way to fix this. Read about the international pricing index model, a proposed rule from HHS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559591) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:36 AM Author: zombie-like histrionic selfie masturbator lol yes we can trust trump and the GOP to fuk over drug companies profits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560079) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 7:22 AM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat Just like we can trust the Dems to fix healthcare since they did it before! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560192) |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:06 PM Author: alcoholic marvelous feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515145) |
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Date: February 20th, 2020 12:08 PM Author: Appetizing philosopher-king shrine No. Just the opposite. Because govt regulations restrict co.petition by creating high barriers to entry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39624187) |
Date: July 19th, 2019 10:17 PM Author: Bateful travel guidebook property Cory Booker will get right on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559235) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo How about Trump? He kinda runs shit these days.
Maybe HHS Secretary Alex Azar, immediate past CEO of insulin manufacturer Elli Lilli will solve this. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:19 PM Author: Comical chapel lettuce Average prescription drug prices went down for the first time ever recently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559242) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:23 PM Author: submissive exhilarant address gunner (known trump shill) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559262) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo But if I go to Canada I get a 1200% discount, and if i am Canadian, the shit is free. But, drr, socialism, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559274) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:09 PM Author: Comical chapel lettuce If you're Canadian you have to pay higher taxes and get ripped off on every consumer good you buy. So it isn't free. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:20 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo But they don't have people dying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559495) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:26 PM Author: Comical chapel lettuce TIL Canadians are immortal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559504) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:12 PM Author: filthy corn cake a 1200% discount, Rudolph? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565652) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: vermilion glittery abode TBF it’s like $7 in Russia. Just do move to Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559250) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo I'm going to really need a free market explanation here. Shouldn't it make prices lower? Why has evil Canadian socialism made the price 1200 percent cheaper?
Should we cut their taxes? Is it a Mexican immigrant problem? |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: vermilion glittery abode TBF the problem with Yankee health care is its hybrid nature. Both full free market health care in Eastern Europe where the majority of the population lacks insurance and pays cash and purely socialist healthcare in Western Europe yield superior results to ARE mixed system which creates nothing but avenues for corruption .
That said, congress knows all this and doesn’t care because 90% of medical patents go to US firms and we are subsidizing US dominance in the field. That’s the entire point. The commie cucks get lower prices but the US dominates the entire industry. It’s an unspoken trade-off. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:38 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat I don't believe for a second it is because of the US "free market" in healthcare. No industry is more subsidized or regulated that healthcare, not even finance.
Insulin specifically is probably Canada's greatest medical achievement so they probably have laws keeping it cheap. |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:48 AM Author: green locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560098) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:37 PM Author: Bossy low-t marketing idea double fault bc the US is a fucking kleptocracy that fuses exhaustingly broad regulation with free market cheerleading in a way that encourages rent seeking and funnels both tax dollars and private spending towards pre-determined winners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562385) |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:19 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat Agreed for a lot of industries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515215) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:49 AM Author: green locus US is not free market at all.....even doctor salaries are artificcially inflated thanks to AMA monopolies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560100) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 9:37 AM Author: Puce crackhouse turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560333) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 11:36 AM Author: Appetizing philosopher-king shrine We dont have a free market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560667) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:22 PM Author: Lilac disrespectful rehab Boomers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559257) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: chrome anal house cuckoldry Middle class consumers in the US have the great honor of subsidizing middle class consumers in other developed countries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559269) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:26 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559278) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:28 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Why haven't our pristine free markets solved this?
Prohibition on price negotiation for Medicare/Medicaid? PBMs? Patent ever-greening that prevents generics?
Why exactly is Canadian heath care bad? They live longer and pay less. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:29 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess I think it's fine but it would require an extensive overhaul, and destroy boomer college admins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559292) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo That's good or bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559299) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:50 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess It's good but "medicAre for all" is not a solution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559383) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:51 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Fine just do price caps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559389) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:31 PM Author: Swashbuckling stage cause it's not a pristine free market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559301) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:34 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo HHS Secretary Alex Azar, former Elli Lilly CEO, is fixing this how exactly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559319) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:38 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat we don't have pristine free markets retard. If anything, our health care system is closer to socialism than free markets. The last time I was at the hospital there was a yuge sign declaring you couldn't be refused treatment even if you couldn't pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559338) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:44 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Hmm. So emergency care + bankruptcy is the solution? Trump should run on that.
I guess that was Paul Ryan's plan. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat Good flame here bud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559369) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: Fuchsia razzmatazz generalized bond bawdyhouse stop being a fag. the insurance market in the us isnt free. canada has a tenth of the population we do and a relatively strict merit-based immigration system, not apples to apples (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559392) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:53 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Ok. Do price caps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559396) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess Pay doctors like Canada does and make licensing like they do, I'd love it, THE AMA/Big Rx is a scam
Dems just want OH JUST MAKE IT FREE! |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo So let's trust Secretary of HHS/Trump nominee/former Elli Lilli CEO to make this right? Because darkies, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559296) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:47 AM Author: fragrant haunting sanctuary doctors in canada get paid pretty damn well. lol at this MFE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560095) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:31 PM Author: Multi-colored Senate Associate Yes, everyone pays the list price for drugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559304) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:33 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo So if you work in the deep-state you get to live, but if you want to start your own business, you get to die?
As an aside, why is there no generic insulin? |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:35 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Why did these kids die?
https://twitter.com/MsAllisonBailey/status/1151587832718331904 |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:42 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat Poor genetics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559353) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:45 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo So we don't like white people from Kentucky like the girl on the left? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559362) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat We love everyone. It’s too bad their fathers didn’t. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559366) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: beady-eyed point chad why even discuss these matters? Even if bernie sanders were in the white house and even if 100% of congress were Dems, I GUARANTEE that we will not get single payer...oh, they may pass a program that they CALL single payer...but it will of course just be another GC scam...america is an extortion factory and not a democracy...when are you gonna fucking learn that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559368) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:49 PM Author: beady-eyed point chad look at all the oh so earnest discussion of how we could implement a universal healthcare plan...lol...as if the citizens actually had some power to change america...dudes, we are not in charge, and we never will be... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559376) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:50 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559385) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:51 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Why not just make it simple? No one can walk out of a pharmacy in the US paying more than $50 a vial, regardless of coverage. There, problem solved.
If bigpharma is worried about R&D, they can up the viagra and balding medicine price. BTW the NIH funds most R&D. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: beady-eyed point chad lol...there are thousands of plans....sure, there are plenty of solutions...and if pigs had wings they could fly to hawaii for a vacation...but they don't have wings...and we don't have a democracy... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559395) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:54 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo We kinda do if both crazy bases get behind the same idea instead of throwing shit at eat other all the time.
This is an immediately solvable problem.
Treat it like a pubic utility. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:49 PM Author: sticky principal's office french chef High taxes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559377) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo So do Canada's taxes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559391) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:55 PM Author: sticky principal's office french chef If we want their system, yeah, just do higher taxes I guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559404) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Why would we not want their system? 25<300 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559413) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:33 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat Do you really want 90% white people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559543) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: walnut thriller prole Hard copy seem like a fine liberal kang....but he got his shit pushed itt.
Kamala sad. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:00 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Literally no one had a serious answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559421) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: Hairless Ratface Obeezy,
Stfu you short little faggot |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:01 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo I'm "loans originated."
Why should white Kentuckians die when they could live in British Columbia or Ontario? Aren't you guys the pro-life party? |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:13 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess They can't live in British Columbia or Ontario because Canada enforces their borders to their welfare state. It's hard to become a citizen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559468) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:20 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo It's shocking that I have to explain this.
Real American in Kentucky should have better heath care than Canadians. We can afford it. We just choose to have them die. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:31 PM Author: frisky razzle-dazzle stage jewess I think you're ignoring the elephant in the room that is USA is a scam and the US has been run by special interests and intelligence agencies since the 50s. This is not a party thing this is corporate USA fucking you and running the country
And we have like 30mm illegals we subsidize, among others...but the above is the point. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:40 PM Author: Misunderstood flesh personal credit line kitty cat Why didn’t you choose to cut them a check? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559564) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:49 PM Author: mauve vivacious school voyeur We need mandatory public disclosure of drug/medical pricing. Ban all forms of price discrimination. Subsidies=illegal, volume discount=illegal, negotiating drug prices per insurer/country=illegal, PBMs=illegal. All prices/rates are public. Would fix 95% of medical industry.
I think this should also apply to all products/services in the US. Fuck coupons, senior discounts, rewards points, all that shit. But admittedly not as big of a deal when demand is more elastic. |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:06 AM Author: Fluffy Soul-stirring Theatre Transparency with regards to pricing won't do much so long as healthcare remains a market in which patients are largely isolated from their own bills.
Demand for healthcare is extraordinarily inelastic, especially when one's survival depends on those services. Otherwise healthy patients might make use of pricing info in situations where the overall bill will be less than their insurance deductible and annual out of pocket max or patients who self-pay, but those situations represent a tiny fraction of the healthcare market. |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 9:30 AM Author: mauve vivacious school voyeur Transparency is just the first step. Banning price discrimination is what solves it. Every customer pays the same (whether all cash, insurance, UK health services, Africa, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560316) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 3:59 AM Author: Clear stag film people who are hurt contards blown out ITT. America is a shell of a country that has been bought out by vulture capitalists that are largely satan worshipping pedophiles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560006) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:54 AM Author: light arousing base water buffalo Risten! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560106) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:54 AM Author: Cracking shivering indirect expression because thanks to the kike chokehold on American culture, people here are a lot more fat and sick than elsewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560105) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 7:16 AM Author: violet internal respiration Xo is the ONLY bort that for years has been talking about the final solution to this and other problems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560188) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 9:56 AM Author: Slate idiotic ticket booth USA doesn't need more insulin resistant blobs rascaling around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560378) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 10:58 AM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Google Type 1 diabetes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560542) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 11:40 AM Author: Appetizing philosopher-king shrine Read part II of this article.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/04/30/buspirone-shortage-in-healthcaristan-ssr/ |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:43 PM Author: Bossy low-t marketing idea double fault OH NO WHAT WILL CANADA”STAN” DO WITHOUT FLOWING SUPPLY OF A 35 YEAR-OLD MEDICATION FOR SHORT-TERM TREATMENT OF MILD ANXIETY DISORDER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562406) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 7:46 PM Author: beady-eyed point chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562893) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:03 PM Author: Appetizing philosopher-king shrine Did you read part II? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565601) |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:13 PM Author: Milky arrogant twinkling uncleanness market Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515180) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 6:46 PM Author: Diverse Jade Parlor Stain "Trump's America" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562648) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:03 PM Author: Poppy corner community account Thanks Obama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565602) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:10 PM Author: claret wonderful stead OP trying so hard ITT to argue against a position that never materialized (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565639) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 4:09 PM Author: sienna startling half-breed This was true under Obama as well. He had 8 years to fix this. Trump has at least acknowledged the problem and is trying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38566214) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 4:13 PM Author: Dashing red university national security agency /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38566232) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 4:15 PM Author: beady-eyed point chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38566246) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2019 8:54 PM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo Hey free market dipshits, here's a bipartisan bill that sets prices at 2006 levels.
https://www.shaheen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Insulin%20Price%20Reduction%20Act%20Summary.pdf
Better go jerk off to some Austrian economists. |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:26 PM Author: Godawful boyish home roast beef ITT: fatties (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515230) |
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Date: February 16th, 2020 11:12 AM Author: Garnet curious temple Is this $300 after insurance? Seems to be after, as it effecting friends wife and they are doing decent financially (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39602414) |
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Date: February 20th, 2020 11:48 AM Author: passionate awkward really tough guy ceo List price is ~$300 a vial. Most adults use 3-6 vials a month, so with a 20 percent co-pay (because there is no generic) $300 per order/script refill is well within the range of possibility with insurance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39624088) |
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Date: June 20th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: zombie-like histrionic selfie masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#40460449) |