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Date: August 19th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: aromatic disturbing gas station death wish
That's a pretty unorthodox view. Few would place them in nu-metal other than lazy late-90s marketers and program directors. They're generally considered progressive metal.
Korn musically peaked with it's self-titled album in 1994 and fell off after that.
And to say that Tool "sound[s] the same as all the others" is baffling. Who are the "others" you think they sound like?
Your temporal claim ("but now") is also strange. Tool's first two albums, Opiate and Undertow, were the least original. Their subsequent albums have been more original, and no one of note is following them.
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Date: August 19th, 2019 10:26 PM Author: big-titted orchid mental disorder tanning salon
they sound exactly the same as all other shit nu metal bands (limp bizkit, linkin park, staind, and whoever else). lol at there being any substantive difference between "prog metal" compared to deftones, system of a down, papa roach, disturbed, Metallica, slipknot, and any of that other gutter trash.
"Your temporal claim ("but now") is also strange. Tool's first two albums, Opiate and Undertow, were the least original. Their subsequent albums have been more original, and no one of note is following them".
LOL. JFC at not realizing every single song they have ever released is the same exact thing with minor variations
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Date: August 19th, 2019 11:07 PM Author: big-titted orchid mental disorder tanning salon
Tool Lateralus: 1.9/10 Rating
Eric Partridge's Dictionary of the Underworld (1998 NTC/Contemporary Publishing), a lexicon of 19th Century street slang, defines the idiom "pitch the fork" as "to tell a pitiful tale." The term appeared printed in 1863 in Story of a Lancashire Thief:
"Brummagem Joe, a cove ["fellow" or "dude," if you will] as could patter or pitch the fork with anyone."
At last, the secret motivation of my schtick and the etymology behind our name can be revealed. These reviews have been less critique than loquacious concept reviews by an entertaining tramp. So you'd think an 80-minute opus by Tool would be right up our alley. You'd be wrong.
Undertow, Tool's 1993 debut LP, took studio skill and over-trained chops to metal with aplomb. It was Rush Sabbath. As emotional, melodic metal goes (the cultural impact of which will be left to the reader), it opened doors for bands like the Deftones, and to some degree, Limp Bizkit. However, Tool have always possessed a latent understanding of absurdity and comedy; their videos look like Tim Burton stop-motion, goth Primus.
But with popularity and praise, Tool's shadowy tongue-in-cheek turned into the simple biting of tongues. \xC6nema spiced their sound with electronics and industry, as was the trend at the time. Now, with the early new century demanding "opuses," Tool follows suit. The problem is, Tool defines "opus" as taking their "defining element" (wanking sludge) and stretching it out to the maximum digital capacity of a compact disc.
Dictionary of the Underworld also offers several definitions for "tool," including: "a small boy used to creep through windows," "to steal from women's pockets," and "to loaf, to idle, to do nothing in particular." All of which oddly strike the nail on the head in relation to Lateralus.
And now, the obligatory pitching of the fork.
My Summer Vacation, by Crispin Fubert, Ms. Higgins' Eng. Comp. 901
I believe that music comes and goes in cycles, and some of us are lucky enough to ride the crests. The men in my family are perfect examples of this. Initially, I thought that perfect music appeared every 16 years, which is also the number of years between Fubert generations. My dad was born in 1971. In that year, landmark albums were released. They were Nursery Crime by Genesis (the first with Phil Collins), Yes Album by Yes, Aqualung by Jethro Tull, and In the Land of Grey and Pink by Caravan.
My grandfather skipped out on Vietnam-- because Jimi Hendrix himself told him to-- and he moved to Canterbury, which is in the United England. There, he got married to my grandmother, who used to sell baked goods to people at concerts, and they had my dad. After the war, they moved back with a box of awesome records like the ones I mentioned. I think it was cosmic or fate or something that my dad was born the same exact day Chrysalis released Aqualung, in March of 1971.
Jump ahead 16 years later and my dad got this girl pregnant, who turned out to be my mom. It was 1987 and a whole bunch of lame dance music was ruling the world, like Hitler or Jesus or something. But all of the sudden, albums like Metallica's ...And Justice for All, Celtic Frost's Into the Pandemonium, Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime, and Slayer's South of Heaven came out. That's when I was born.
All those records were sitting around the house we all live in, and I grew up listening to them in the basement. So I couldn't wait until I was 16, because fate says that would be when 1) more kickass records would come out, and 2) I'd get sex. Both were due, because girls are dumb and listen to stuff like N'S(t)ync and BBSuk. But after this summer of 2001, I've had to rethink my entire cycle theory, like maybe the cycles of music are speeding as time goes forward, since two amazing things happened: Tool put out Lateralus and I saw Tool in concert.
I feel like this record was made just for me by super-smart aliens or something, because it's just like a cross of 1971 and 1987. Imagine, like, Peter Gabriel with batwings or a flower on his head singing while Lars Ulrich and Rick Wakeman just hammer it down. It's the best Tool record because it's the longest. All summer I worked at Gadzooks, folding novelty t-shirts, and on each break, I would listen to Lateralus because the store just plays hip-hop and dance. My manager would always get on me for taking my breaks 20 minutes too long, but that's how long the album is and it just sucks you in. It's like this big desert world with mountains of riffs, and drum thunderstorms just roll across the sky. The packaging is also cool, since it has this clear book with a skinless guy, and as you turn the pages, it rips off his muscles and stuff. Tool's music does the same thing. It can just rip the muscles and skin off you. I think that's what they meant. So my manager would be like, "Hey, there's a new box of 'Blunt Simpson' shirts I need you to put out and the 'Original Jackass' shelf is getting low." He's a vegan and I would buy him Orange Julius because he didn't know there's egg powder in there.
The first song is called "The Grudge," and it's about astrology and how people control stuff. Maynard sings like a robot or clone at the opening, spitting, "Wear the crutch like a crown/ Calculate what we will/ Will not tolerate/ Desperate to control/ All and everything." Tool know about space and math, and it's pretty complex. "Saturn ascends/ Not one but ten," he sings. No Doubt and R.E.M. sang out that, too, but those songs were wimpy and short. Maynard shows his intelligence with raw stats. I think there's meaning behind those numbers, like calculus. He also mentions "prison cell" and "tear it down" and "controlling" and "sinking deeper," which all symbolize how he feels. Seven minutes into the song, he does this awesome scream for 24 seconds straight, which is like the longest scream I've ever heard. Then at the end there's this part where Danny Carey hits every drum he has. This wall of drums just pounds you. Then the next song starts and it's quiet and trippy. Tool are the best metal band, since they can get trippy (almost pretty, but in a dark way) then just really loud. Most bands just do loud, so Tool is more prog.
Danny Carey is the best drummer in rock, dispute that and I know you are a dunce. I made a list of all of his gear (from the June issue of Modern Drummer):
Drums, Sonor Designer Series (bubinga wood): 8x14 snare (bronze), 8x8 tom, 10x10 tom, 16x14 tom, 18x16 floor tom, two 18x24 bass drums.
Cymbals, Paiste: 14" Sound Edge Dry Crisp hi-hats, 6" signature bell over 8" signature bell, 10" signature splash, 24" 2002 China, 18" signature full crash, #3 cup chime over #1 cup chime, 18" signature power crash, 12" signature Micro-Hat, 22" signature Dry Heavy ride, 22" signature Thin China, 20" signature Power crash.
Electronics: Simmons SDX pads, Korg Wave Drum, Roland MC-505, Oberheim TVS.
Hardware: Sonor stands, Sonor, Axis or Pro-Mark hi-hat stand, Axis or Pearl bass drum petals with Sonor or Pearl beaters (loose string tension, but with long throw).
Heads: Evans Power Center on snare batter (medium high tuning, no muffling), G2s on tom batters with G1s underneath (medium tuning with bottom head higher than batter), EQ3 bass drum batter with EQ3 resonant on front (medium tuning, with EQ pad touching front and back heads).
Sticks: Trueline Danny Carey model (wood tip).
He has his own sticks, even. In "Schism," the double basses just go nuts at the end. They also do in "Eon Blue Apocalypse." And in "The Grudge." And in "Ticks & Leeches." And nobody uses more toms in metal. You can really hear the 8x8 and 10x10 toms in the opening for "Ticks & Leeches." Over the summer, I counted the number of tom hits in that song, and it's 1,023!! Amazing. That's my favorite song, since it's the one that starts with Maynard screaming, "Suck it!" Then he says, "Little parasite." Later he shouts, "This is what you wanted... I hope you choke on it!" Every time I watched my boss suck down those Orange Juliuses I had that stuck in my head.
There is simply no way you could just dismiss the music (which is excellent). The bass playing is just really creepy and slow and sometimes it has this watery effect. Tool even follow in the footsteps of Caravan with Middle Eastern or Asian or something sounds. "Disposition" features bongos, and then on the next song, "Reflection," Carey's toms sound like bongos or tablas or whatever is in those Fruitopia commercials. Close your eyes and imagine if Asia had a space program. This is like the music they'd play. The song is called "Reflection" since it's quieter and slower and sounds like it's from India, where people go to reflect. Maynard's voice sounds like that little bleached midget girl flying around inside the walls in Polterghost. It's messed up.
In conclusion, there is more emotion on that album than would be on 30 Weezer albums. At the very least, there's 2.5 times as much. Like I said, it's messed up, like the world, which makes it very real. I don't think I'm going to have a kid this year, but that's also a good thing. Just imagine the Tool record that will come out in three years, according to my theory. It will be the future, and albums can be like longer with better compression and technology. Even as amazing as Lateralus is, I feel like there's a monster coming in three years. Music comes in cycles, and works on math, and my life and Tool are proof of that for sure.
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Date: August 20th, 2019 12:27 AM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
Tool albums pre Aenima isn't even comparable genre wise to their own subsequent albums
Tool is genre less like several other groups throughout history, king crimson, early Genesis, yes, even some shit Prince and Talking Heads did are not definable outside of progressive (insert closest genre here)
It was fun engaging in this flame
Go fire up a Mindless Self Indulgence CD and tell me about the nuances of West coast rap
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Date: August 20th, 2019 12:31 AM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
The albums are thematic in nature
One is even written on the backbone of a Fibonacci sequence
Jones does reuse a ton of power chords and musically he may their weakest link and yet he still has like 7-8 of rocks most memorable riffs
If this isn't flame you're now embarrassing yourself, even more so than I am defending a 25+ yr old musical group with less than 50 total songs
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Date: August 20th, 2019 2:14 AM Author: big-titted orchid mental disorder tanning salon
I actually tried to listen to them the other day with an open mind, because I heard someone mention them on xo, not flame. I used to listen to them back when I was in middle school, when I listened to that genre of music, and I remember thinking they were of the highest class in the genre, and so I thought I would re-listen to them to see if they were objectively good, even though I know they are from a genre that I don't particularly care for. They actually came up on a Spotify playlist made for me, because I had brought them up to listen to. Heard them and they were literally just banging on drop-d power chords over and over and screaming into mic just like Metallica etc. Was expecting more, because back when I was 12 they sounded different from everyone else, and were my favorite band. But realized I was just close-minded back then, and hadn't heard enough different styles to realize what was really out there.
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Date: August 21st, 2019 3:15 AM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
New song released actually growing on me
This is gonna be a classic
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Date: August 24th, 2019 4:44 PM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
I keep thinking the same thing when he says stay alive in the title track lol
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Date: August 25th, 2019 3:57 AM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
Edit: nm legit
1800000000000
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Date: August 25th, 2019 4:13 PM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
Listened to the leaked album 3 times so far
Danny Carey is front and center, most songs seem to be in 7 time
Jones really stepped his shit up and played out of his comfort zone, there most be 50+ incredibly fat riffs throughout that each listen opens up
I like that Maynard is not used too much and only comes in when necessary.
Jfc that last song 7empest is brutally insane, just 20 min straight of riff hard jam back to back.
All 3 instrumentalists have clearly become comfortable with adding layers of tech to the sound, on descending the main riff morphs into this other worldy tri-harmonic chord riff solo that sounds tuned up that is unlike any I've ever heard before.
It's as if they designed an album thats really just one long song with a few interludes to take alone on whatever substances you are gonna utilize and ride the sonic wave to the deepest recesses of you being
Easily a top 3 album of theirs, I have it slightly above 10,000 days right now from 3 spins, though the intensity and depth of the tracks is almost exhausting and may not have the singular replayability of ænema or lateralus hits
I don't see how anyone could be disappointed that's a fan
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Date: August 26th, 2019 2:28 AM Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt Skinny Woman
I've relistened to album version of Descending at least 50 times now
Everything smashes except first track imo
Nothing can top lateralus but God damn this is good shit
Tbf, the grudge/the patient are my favorite type of songs
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