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5 days to draft 11 page 3000 word brief?

40 hours? Seems very excessive.
green dead cruise ship dog poop
  09/17/19
Pay your bills
Onyx Space Private Investor
  09/17/19
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slap-happy becky temple
  09/17/19
Reasonable and necessary
slap-happy becky temple
  09/17/19
Seems low.
Impertinent National Boltzmann
  09/17/19
Hire an XO solo next time. Have them pay 20% kickback on bil...
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  09/17/19
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metal ticket booth
  09/17/19
That would typically be on the high side, but context matter...
Yapping razzle-dazzle orchestra pit corn cake
  09/17/19
cqs
cerebral alcoholic property
  09/17/19
lawyers are expensive. could have drafted it yourself.
histrionic orchid stag film
  09/17/19
estimate the # of times you have heard this complaint
cerebral alcoholic property
  09/17/19
really not that many. i bill pretty conservatively and my cl...
histrionic orchid stag film
  09/17/19
you guys allow clients to make payments?
Coiffed Business Firm
  09/18/19
Generally no
histrionic orchid stag film
  09/18/19
very excessive. i've drafted briefs more than five times tha...
Lime provocative university
  09/17/19
Oh! The BriefMaster!
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Red bat shit crazy international law enforcement agency
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  09/18/19
That's what you get for hiring DBG
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Charcoal exciting public bath ratface
  09/18/19
golden rule for BIGLAW 1 page of finished work product = ...
multi-colored pozpig kitty
  09/18/19
That sounds pretty quick
Charcoal exciting public bath ratface
  09/18/19
on the lower end that's definitely too quick but higher end ...
Federal Chapel
  09/18/19
exactly, just schedule one expert report for every 3 months....
Swashbuckling internet-worthy telephone
  09/18/19
a 500 page expert report could be one guy's hours for the ye...
Duck-like wonderful gas station
  09/18/19
Biglaw is rarely that fast.
Yapping razzle-dazzle orchestra pit corn cake
  09/18/19
rofl no. 20 page brief should be a minimum week billed. read...
Duck-like wonderful gas station
  09/18/19
strong poast/moniker synergy right here
Federal Chapel
  09/18/19
Do firms normally knock out an entire SCOTUS brief in a week...
Red bat shit crazy international law enforcement agency
  09/18/19
This is not the case. One hour (on average, whatever that m...
bisexual hospital
  09/18/19
yeah this rule seems bogus. For an SJ brief I would take we...
cerebral alcoholic property
  09/18/19
40 hours is a lot for 11 pages. what kind of brief was it.
Swashbuckling internet-worthy telephone
  09/18/19
god what a dumb profession
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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:18 AM
Author: green dead cruise ship dog poop

40 hours? Seems very excessive.

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:21 AM
Author: Onyx Space Private Investor

Pay your bills

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:22 AM
Author: slap-happy becky temple



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:22 AM
Author: slap-happy becky temple

Reasonable and necessary

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:32 AM
Author: Impertinent National Boltzmann

Seems low.

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:36 AM
Author: Red bat shit crazy international law enforcement agency

Hire an XO solo next time. Have them pay 20% kickback on bills.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846806)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:38 AM
Author: metal ticket booth



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:36 AM
Author: Yapping razzle-dazzle orchestra pit corn cake

That would typically be on the high side, but context matters. Are there tons of record citations? Did they spend two days looking for that purple squirrel citation that some Boomer knew had to be out there? . . .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846809)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:38 AM
Author: cerebral alcoholic property

cqs

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:39 AM
Author: histrionic orchid stag film

lawyers are expensive. could have drafted it yourself.

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: cerebral alcoholic property

estimate the # of times you have heard this complaint

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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:13 AM
Author: histrionic orchid stag film

really not that many. i bill pretty conservatively and my clients are usually appreciative of the work i do. if you work hard for your clients they usually see that and will be more receptive to an expensive bill. rather than attack the amount of time spent they will just want to spread it out over some payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846983)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:19 AM
Author: Coiffed Business Firm

you guys allow clients to make payments?

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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:36 AM
Author: histrionic orchid stag film

Generally no

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:52 AM
Author: Lime provocative university

very excessive. i've drafted briefs more than five times that long in 40 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846897)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:55 AM
Author: slap-happy becky temple

Oh! The BriefMaster!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846905)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: Red bat shit crazy international law enforcement agency



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:09 AM
Author: Scarlet Aromatic House Nowag



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:26 AM
Author: mewling hilarious mother theater stage

is your name really dentons

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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: cerebral alcoholic property



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:12 AM
Author: yellow heaven travel guidebook



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:14 AM
Author: histrionic orchid stag film



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: Thriller hot place of business kitchen



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:14 AM
Author: Lascivious henna step-uncle's house



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:15 AM
Author: Charcoal exciting public bath ratface



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Lascivious henna step-uncle's house

That's what you get for hiring DBG

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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:15 AM
Author: Charcoal exciting public bath ratface



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:16 AM
Author: multi-colored pozpig kitty

golden rule for BIGLAW

1 page of finished work product = 1 hour billed on average.

20 page brief should be 20 hours give or take 20%

100 page expert report should be 100, etc.

this includes research, analysis, internal discussions, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850567)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: Charcoal exciting public bath ratface

That sounds pretty quick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850568)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:20 AM
Author: Federal Chapel

on the lower end that's definitely too quick but higher end sounds right. I don't think "assisting" an expert write a 100 page report should take more than 100 hours. some of those things can be 500 pages long. you could just write 4 of those to get all your hours for the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850580)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:33 AM
Author: Swashbuckling internet-worthy telephone

exactly, just schedule one expert report for every 3 months. i'm always doing it wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850616)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:45 AM
Author: Duck-like wonderful gas station

a 500 page expert report could be one guy's hours for the year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850651)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: Yapping razzle-dazzle orchestra pit corn cake

Biglaw is rarely that fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850571)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:18 AM
Author: Duck-like wonderful gas station

rofl no. 20 page brief should be a minimum week billed. read the DBG billing method thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850573)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:18 AM
Author: Federal Chapel

strong poast/moniker synergy right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850575)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:16 AM
Author: Red bat shit crazy international law enforcement agency

Do firms normally knock out an entire SCOTUS brief in a week?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850984)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:45 AM
Author: bisexual hospital

This is not the case. One hour (on average, whatever that means) for one page of "finished" work product? Are you talking out of your anus? +/- 20% for the time spent on a finished 20 page paper, flattening all levels of quality and complexity?

As a topic, biglol billing is ripe for mockery and jokery. But you know that 1:1 hour:page programs don't help anyone - the associate getting fired for not making billables, the partner not generating revenue, and the in-house counsel drone wagging his finger at the bill and threatening to port his company's business each month when the invoice comes (as if the input of that washed out taskmaster holds any sway over an officer/board allocation).

Pay your fucking bills. Pay them on time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38851014)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:52 AM
Author: cerebral alcoholic property

yeah this rule seems bogus. For an SJ brief I would take well more than one hour a page. For a basic motion to compel, less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38851030)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: Swashbuckling internet-worthy telephone

40 hours is a lot for 11 pages. what kind of brief was it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850572)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:19 AM
Author: Trip crystalline associate trump supporter

god what a dumb profession

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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:20 AM
Author: Federal Chapel



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:21 AM
Author: contagious outnumbered voyeur



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:25 AM
Author: Red bat shit crazy international law enforcement agency



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:48 AM
Author: gold nofapping wrinkle



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