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Dr. Manhattan is black (Watchmen)

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exciting awkward locus
  12/01/19
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exciting awkward locus
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Dr. Harlem
Vivacious voyeur selfie
  12/01/19
he fucked all those viets
infuriating feces center
  12/01/19
We wuz Supermen
exciting awkward locus
  12/02/19
kind of a ridiculous twist
infuriating feces center
  12/03/19
👨🏿‍⚕️
180 digit ratio
  12/03/19
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Motley mustard shrine french chef
  12/09/19
lol at the chief of police's wife's couch trap
infuriating feces center
  12/03/19
"what the fuck are you doing?" that was 180
soul-stirring coral chapel skinny woman
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exciting awkward locus
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exciting awkward locus
  12/09/19
Also, confirmed BBC
plum dopamine indirect expression
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Motley mustard shrine french chef
  12/09/19
Manhattan Luther King
chest-beating piazza ceo
  12/09/19
Evil white Drumpfmo klansmen senator wants to kill the first...
exciting awkward locus
  12/09/19
Alan Moore is going to shoot up HBO if he watches this seaso...
Zippy masturbator
  12/09/19
I like the storylines involving the original characters. the...
soul-stirring coral chapel skinny woman
  12/09/19
Question is where they go from here for season 2
exciting awkward locus
  12/09/19
The Importance of Watchmen’s Latest Twist The actor Y...
Zippy masturbator
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Lol blackface has come full circle and is now awesome if a b...
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Date: December 1st, 2019 10:03 PM
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Date: December 1st, 2019 10:25 PM
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Date: December 1st, 2019 10:32 PM
Author: Vivacious voyeur selfie

Dr. Harlem

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Date: December 1st, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: infuriating feces center

he fucked all those viets

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Date: December 2nd, 2019 7:55 AM
Author: exciting awkward locus

We wuz Supermen

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Date: December 3rd, 2019 6:22 PM
Author: infuriating feces center

kind of a ridiculous twist

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Date: December 3rd, 2019 6:26 PM
Author: 180 digit ratio

👨🏿‍⚕️

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Date: December 9th, 2019 9:17 AM
Author: Motley mustard shrine french chef



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Date: December 3rd, 2019 6:29 PM
Author: infuriating feces center

lol at the chief of police's wife's couch trap

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Date: December 9th, 2019 9:51 AM
Author: soul-stirring coral chapel skinny woman

"what the fuck are you doing?"

that was 180

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Date: December 4th, 2019 1:43 AM
Author: exciting awkward locus



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Date: December 9th, 2019 9:10 AM
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Date: December 9th, 2019 9:18 AM
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Also, confirmed BBC

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Date: December 9th, 2019 9:49 AM
Author: Motley mustard shrine french chef



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Date: December 9th, 2019 10:26 AM
Author: chest-beating piazza ceo

Manhattan Luther King

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Date: December 9th, 2019 10:32 AM
Author: exciting awkward locus

Evil white Drumpfmo klansmen senator wants to kill the first black superhero

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Date: December 9th, 2019 10:51 AM
Author: Zippy masturbator

Alan Moore is going to shoot up HBO if he watches this season

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Date: December 9th, 2019 10:53 AM
Author: soul-stirring coral chapel skinny woman

I like the storylines involving the original characters. the rest of it I don't really care too much for. good enough for me to watch, I guess.

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Date: December 9th, 2019 10:59 AM
Author: exciting awkward locus

Question is where they go from here for season 2

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Date: December 9th, 2019 2:07 PM
Author: Zippy masturbator

The Importance of Watchmen’s Latest Twist

The actor Yahya Abdul-Mateen II weighs in on reimagining Doctor Manhattan as a black man, and how his character is pushing the story forward.

SHIRLEY LI

1:50 PM ET

“I don’t know what I did on the outside, but on the inside, I was going crazy," says Yahya Abdul-Mateen II of learning about the show's twist.MARK HILL / HBO

This story contains spoilers through Episode 8 of HBO’s Watchmen.

Watchmen, the graphic novel, includes a statement from Doctor Manhattan’s biographer clarifying a quote he once gave a reporter. “I never said ‘The Superman exists and he’s American,’” the writer complained. “What I said was ‘God exists and he’s American.’”

Watchmen, the HBO adaptation from the writer Damon Lindelof, takes that statement a step further: God exists, and he’s not only American, folks, he’s black.

As revealed in Episode 7 and explored further in last night’s flashback-driven installment, Cal Abar (played by Yahya Abdul-Mateen II), the mild-mannered stay-at-home dad and husband of the masked detective Angela Abar (played by Regina King), was actually Jon Osterman (a German-born Jewish man), a.k.a. Doctor Manhattan. Cal, along with Angela, deliberately blocked his memory of being the product of a physics experiment gone wrong so they could be together. It’s a monumental twist in the world of Watchmen, and one even Abdul-Mateen himself couldn’t wrap his head around when Lindelof told him after they’d finished shooting the pilot. “I don’t know what I did on the outside, but on the inside, I was going crazy,” Abdul-Mateen recalled to me over the phone last week. “I couldn’t believe it.”

Doctor Manhattan, after all, isn’t just a typical superhero; he’s more an all-powerful deity, immortal, blue-skinned, and all-seeing. He can manipulate matter, teleport anywhere in the universe, and create or destroy life. In 1985, the show reveals, he terraformed Jupiter’s moon Europa and populated this utopia with his own Adam and Eve—now known as Mr. Phillips (Tom Mison) and Ms. Crookshanks (Sara Vickers). Most importantly, Doctor Manhattan experiences time at once, rather than linearly: As he talks to Angela in a bar in 2009, for instance, he’s also with her in bed six months into the future, as well as hiding in a manor as child in 1936.

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Abdul-Mateen said he barely had time to comprehend the character’s incomparable powers. “It’s difficult enough acting two things at one time, so trying to be in two places at one time—and not just two but an infinite number of places at one time—that would have really confused me,” he said. “I tried to think about it, and it kind of broke my brain.” The actor also had to sit through three hours of makeup every day and learned to modulate his voice to emulate the behavior of what he called “hyper-intelligent figures” like Steve Jobs.

As for being a black man playing one of the most powerful characters in comic history, Abdul-Mateen says the significance didn’t strike him until after the series began airing. Black superheroes exist, of course, but they’re a rarity in Watchmen. To cast Doctor Manhattan as black is not only challenging the classic image of a superhero, but it’s also challenging the comic’s own biases. “I never considered that when I was playing Doctor Manhattan. I was just stepping into the role,” Abdul-Mateen admitted. “What’s been most interesting is being able to look around and to interact with people who are finding that imagery to be really, really powerful, to be a part of this statement that we’re making on the show.”

It’s quite a statement, but then again, it’s Watchmen as interpreted by Lindelof, who—as seen in his previous TV series Lost and The Leftovers—is one of the medium’s most daring writers, using non-linear storytelling to deliver bold statements and character studies. Across its eight episodes so far, Watchmen has upended its own history to give screen time and voice to the types of characters not usually featured in these stories. The sixth episode revealed that Hooded Justice, the first vigilante in the world of Watchmen, was a black man, and the show focuses on Angela, Laurie (Jean Smart), and Lady Trieu (Hong Chau)—three women of varying ages and races.

But in casting these roles, Lindelof and the show’s writers aren’t merely making a more inclusive superhero show. They’re respecting the original graphic novel’s ethos while also underlining the show’s premise, which interrogates racism and the rise of white supremacy. Instead of simply adding more actors of color to play token parts, Watchmen is criticizing the genre’s preference for reductive (and largely white) male-power fantasies. Pivotal narrative movements have come from unexpected, divergent sources. In Episode 4, for example, the cold open appears to focus on a pair of white farmers (surname: Clark, in a nod to Superman), but turns out to be about Lady Trieu. The series began with a heavy focus on Judd Crawford (Don Johnson), the white chief of police, only to kill him off by the end in favor of focusing on Angela. When Jon has to choose a form for his new identity, Angela comes up with the idea of hiding him in plain sight. She offers him multiple corpses of men who “lived alone, died alone”—a Lost reference—and actively steers him toward Cal’s body, which makes her feel “comfortable.” Not only does a black female superhero make the call, but the decision also reinforces Angela’s intelligence. Jon praises it as an “elegant solution.”

By reimagining Doctor Manhattan, the closest thing it has to a god, Watchmen is furthering its point: People are kidding themselves if they think they’re above race. As trite and obvious as that argument may be, the show could only make it so decisively through Jon, someone who’d “transcended” race. Jon is unable to grasp some human emotions (such as shame, hence his constant nudity), and therefore considers racial issues to be beneath his concerns. Put simply, Doctor Manhattan no longer “sees color.”

Yet his new form has a profound impact on everyone around him. His appearance as Cal perhaps encourages Will (Louis Gossett Jr.)—Angela’s grandfather and the retired Hooded Justice—to accept what Cal says about Judd being a member of the white supremacist organization Cyclops. And his appearance as Cal makes the former masked hero Adrian (Jeremy Irons) believe he’s headed for paradise when Jon-as-Cal proposes he teleport him to Europa. Adrian, self-obsessed and egotistical, would likely not have responded the same way had the conversation been with someone who was glowing blue or who was a white man, like himself.

For Abdul-Mateen, the role has been deeply resonant. “In a world where white supremacy is the antagonist of our story, it makes sense that a god is inhabited by a black man… [that] God can be black,” he explained. “It’s really humbling to be a part of that narrative.”

SHIRLEY LI is a staff writer at The Atlantic​, where she covers culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4393018&forum_id=2#39237595)



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Date: December 9th, 2019 2:25 PM
Author: Spectacular stain potus

Lol blackface has come full circle and is now awesome if a blue god is doing it.

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Date: December 15th, 2019 10:47 AM
Author: exciting awkward locus



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