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typical day in the life of a corporate lawyer

well?
transparent house tattoo
  06/29/06
Fucks his secretary. goes home to his psychotic wife.
Mint laughsome indian lodge
  06/29/06
"I could be doing that, but then I'd also have a $1000 ...
walnut stage crotch
  07/01/06
vault.com ---> industries ---> law They have day-in...
sienna mother
  06/30/06
He watches the O'RLY Factor on FOX NEWS!
sick office kitty cat
  07/02/06
10 a.m. wake up to the gentle sound of money rustling. 10:3...
exhilarant lake windowlicker
  06/29/06
4 a.m. Wake up to the sound of alarm clock ringing, hit snoo...
Bright Gunner Dysfunction
  06/30/06
Can I drink between 10 and 11?
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  06/30/06
Edited: Sure, alcohol burn makes the wacking off that much b...
Bright Gunner Dysfunction
  06/30/06
In the PM. I'm home then in my boxlike studio in a trendy b...
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  06/30/06
180
Apoplectic startled tanning salon
  06/30/06
What a total fucking lie. As if McD's is open at 4am.
Rose partner circlehead
  06/30/06
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5437151/ Oak Brook, Illinois-base...
Bright Gunner Dysfunction
  06/30/06
Damn, moving to oak brook now.
Rose partner circlehead
  06/30/06
You don't have 24 hour McDonald's... WTF????
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  06/30/06
Isn't the Times Sq. one 24 hours?
thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant
  06/30/06
So is one by my house on the Island. I thought a lot of the...
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  06/30/06
Even lots of the ones in East Bumfuck are open 24 hours.
talented metal heaven kitty
  07/02/06
flame. associates have to take town cars; only partners get ...
Ruddy theater
  06/30/06
this was getting a 175 until the last one brought it up to 1...
Maize cerebral corner
  06/30/06
Agreed dood.
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  06/30/06
This lawyer has sex for less than 2 minutes?
charismatic mewling useless brakes
  06/30/06
Hookers don't care.
Bright Gunner Dysfunction
  06/30/06
I would think they would prefer it.
charismatic mewling useless brakes
  06/30/06
That must be why they get along so well with lawyers.
Bright Gunner Dysfunction
  06/30/06
here is joke (imagine it flying) . . . . . here is you...
Ruddy theater
  06/30/06
Just beautiful.
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
10:15 teach immigrant the word is 'leisurely,' not 'easurely...
Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace
  07/01/06
and here i thought i was learning a new word.
pink high-end mad-dog skullcap juggernaut
  07/01/06
9:00 am - I just got into the office. The investment banker...
walnut stage crotch
  07/01/06
i laughed at this. ty.
Apoplectic startled tanning salon
  07/01/06
you're too stupid and unprestigious to ever become a biglawy...
buck-toothed marketing idea idiot
  07/01/06
agreed. kill self?
Apoplectic startled tanning salon
  07/01/06
A+++++++++
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
My days vary a lot. But as a basic template: 9:30 Come ...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
riveting
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
How does a negotiation with a document go?
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
? I normally negotiate with people about documents. Not ...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
You don't know anything about negotiation, though.
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
What do you mean? If you mean that I'm not particularly tra...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
Typical they don't let you get anywhere near money. You'll a...
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
far below, even
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
In preschool on career day, a v50 partner's child was teased...
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
Good thing you attend TAMU then, hotbed of ibank recruiting ...
Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace
  07/01/06
"i don't do anything important, but, like the other tar...
Mahogany hospital
  07/01/06
Usually pretty one-sided, which is nice because we can feel ...
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
This doesn't sound too bad up utnil after dinner.
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  07/01/06
He could cut his day in half if his first revision of the do...
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
Corporate associates never know what they're doing. That's w...
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
You two are pretty boring. I'd love to hear how your typica...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
My day is pretty similar to yours, actually. Just giving you...
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
11:20 get up 11:25 smoke weed 12-2 class 2:20 smoke 3 dr...
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
180
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
Dr Phil bro? GHEY
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  07/01/06
wtf bro? phil roolz
Tripping blathering pit
  07/01/06
IF YOU WANT DIFFERENT DO DIFFERENT- this is not roolz
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  07/01/06
this is the best life.
buck-toothed marketing idea idiot
  07/01/06
it never ceases to amaze me how many people make PTI a cruci...
Apoplectic startled tanning salon
  07/01/06
good thing showers and dates don't sneak their way into your...
lascivious coldplay fan public bath
  07/01/06
lmao
crawly unhinged ticket booth
  07/01/06
How do you know when you have the ability to "negotiate...
thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant
  07/01/06
Depends. To some extent you just have a feel for what peopl...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
So it sounds like you quickly move from having no experience...
thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant
  07/01/06
Yes. I (and most of my classmates) became responsible for p...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/02/06
That does seem quite painful, and unless ? is like 8:15, rid...
outnumbered light messiness
  07/01/06
Well I'm writing at a very general level. Replace "neg...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/01/06
Hardly -- only an idiot would use lexis.
outnumbered light messiness
  07/01/06
haha, i'm not clear on what "troll lexis" even mea...
buck-toothed marketing idea idiot
  07/01/06
Lexis is cheaper and has a better interface. It's the choice...
thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant
  07/01/06
Westlaw pwns lexis.
crimson sanctuary pistol
  07/01/06
The fact that you can get pleadings from cases handled by qu...
Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace
  07/01/06
wow, you're gonna be a great lawyer someday!
crimson sanctuary pistol
  07/01/06
I think it's clear I already am. Besides, why re-create the ...
Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace
  07/01/06
Do they not have pleadings on lexis?
outnumbered light messiness
  07/01/06
Not that I recall, but I haven't used Lexis in years.
Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace
  07/01/06
Sucks to be them.
outnumbered light messiness
  07/01/06
yes, they actually do.
Maniacal son of senegal locale
  07/01/06
Cheaper? WTF? Why would I possibly care if it is cheaper? Le...
outnumbered light messiness
  07/01/06
i hate how lexis's citation's must be perfect...if you cite ...
crimson sanctuary pistol
  07/01/06
LOL
cobalt big regret nursing home
  07/01/06
I just can't figure out why they would not have the useful h...
outnumbered light messiness
  07/01/06
Both interfaces are fucking hopeless. I'm praying for the d...
Bright Gunner Dysfunction
  07/02/06
Are you ever solely responsible for drafting whole, extensiv...
Ebony seedy quadroon
  07/01/06
that'd probably constitute malpractice.
crimson sanctuary pistol
  07/01/06
I don't think anyone has ever sat down (at least not in the ...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/02/06
Thanks for the response - so you would say that the challeng...
Ebony seedy quadroon
  07/02/06
The 7 Habits of Highly Useless Corporate Lawyers. "E...
crimson sanctuary pistol
  07/01/06
There are many firms for which this is 100% accurate. Mine,...
Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy
  07/02/06
...
electric lilac turdskin faggot firefighter
  01/12/08


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Date: June 29th, 2006 8:33 PM
Author: transparent house tattoo

well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6106574)





Date: June 29th, 2006 8:35 PM
Author: Mint laughsome indian lodge

Fucks his secretary. goes home to his psychotic wife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6106587)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:04 PM
Author: walnut stage crotch

"I could be doing that, but then I'd also have a $1000 a day coke and hooker habit and beat my wife and kids in the Hamptons on the weekends that I see them. This way, I only punish my liver, and what good is a liver if you don't abuse it?"

Tucker Max, in reference to being a corporate lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118224)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:21 PM
Author: sienna mother

vault.com ---> industries ---> law

They have day-in-the-life things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112338)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 4:14 AM
Author: sick office kitty cat

He watches the O'RLY Factor on FOX NEWS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6122328)





Date: June 29th, 2006 8:45 PM
Author: exhilarant lake windowlicker

10 a.m. wake up to the gentle sound of money rustling.

10:30 be served breakfast in bed by french maid

11:00 be taken by limo to office

11:15 start working

11:45 leave for lunch with client. Take easurely stroll to restaurant.

12:15 arrive at restaurant. Eat steak with client. Drink wine.

2:15 pm Leave restaurant. Take easurely stroll to office.

2:45 Arrive at office. Start working.

3:30 Time for a coffee break.

3:50 Return to your desk. Start working

4:00 Go to CLE seminar. They serve good food.

5:00 Return to desk. No more work, but stay for face time,

5:30 take limo to your private club. Relax with friends.

7:30 meet date for dinner.

9:30 Go dancing.

11:30 Return home, make passionate love

11:32 Fall asleep to the sound of interest accruing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6106646)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:20 PM
Author: Bright Gunner Dysfunction

4 a.m. Wake up to the sound of alarm clock ringing, hit snooze button.

4:15 a.m. Wake up to sound of alarm clock ringing again, drag ass out of bed and into shower.

4:45 a.m. Arrive at office, having picked up McDonald's breakfast on the way.

5:00 a.m. Start working.

12:00 p.m. Order lunch for delivery. Eat at desk.

7:00 p.m. Order dinner for delivery. Eat at desk.

8:00 p.m. Check bank balance online. Notice it is very large. Wish for time to spend it.

10:00 p.m. Go home. Wack off with aid of internet porn.

11:00 p.m. Cry self to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112331)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:22 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

Can I drink between 10 and 11?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112343)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:23 PM
Author: Bright Gunner Dysfunction

Edited: Sure, alcohol burn makes the wacking off that much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112353)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:23 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

In the PM. I'm home then in my boxlike studio in a trendy building.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112359)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:25 PM
Author: Apoplectic startled tanning salon

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112371)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:47 PM
Author: Rose partner circlehead

What a total fucking lie. As if McD's is open at 4am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112565)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:49 PM
Author: Bright Gunner Dysfunction

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5437151/

Oak Brook, Illinois-based McDonald's, which since 2003 has curbed expansion to improve operations and build traffic at existing stores, now has about 80 percent of its 13,000 U.S. restaurants on some form of extended hours, a spokesman said. At least 12 percent operate around the clock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112600)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:52 PM
Author: Rose partner circlehead

Damn, moving to oak brook now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112635)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:55 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

You don't have 24 hour McDonald's... WTF????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112675)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:55 PM
Author: thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant

Isn't the Times Sq. one 24 hours?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112679)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:58 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

So is one by my house on the Island. I thought a lot of them were. Unless you live in bumblefuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112710)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 11:35 AM
Author: talented metal heaven kitty

Even lots of the ones in East Bumfuck are open 24 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6122521)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:23 PM
Author: Ruddy theater

flame. associates have to take town cars; only partners get limos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112357)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:24 PM
Author: Maize cerebral corner

this was getting a 175 until the last one brought it up to 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112365)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:49 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

Agreed dood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112604)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:49 PM
Author: charismatic mewling useless brakes

This lawyer has sex for less than 2 minutes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112595)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:50 PM
Author: Bright Gunner Dysfunction

Hookers don't care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112608)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:55 PM
Author: charismatic mewling useless brakes

I would think they would prefer it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112669)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:56 PM
Author: Bright Gunner Dysfunction

That must be why they get along so well with lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112689)





Date: June 30th, 2006 3:58 PM
Author: Ruddy theater

here is joke (imagine it flying)

.

.

.

.

.

here is your head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6112706)





Date: July 1st, 2006 12:47 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

Just beautiful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6117628)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:26 PM
Author: Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace

10:15 teach immigrant the word is 'leisurely,' not 'easurely.'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118293)





Date: July 1st, 2006 7:18 PM
Author: pink high-end mad-dog skullcap juggernaut

and here i thought i was learning a new word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6119301)





Date: July 1st, 2006 2:55 PM
Author: walnut stage crotch

9:00 am - I just got into the office. The investment bankers will be here any minute to bully us around with this billion-dollar acquisition they're advising on. I start putting on my kneepads.

10:00 am - The bankers roll in, late as usual, joking about how they make twice as much as us. I get on my knees and start sucking.

10:50 am - Finally, some directors from this prestigious buyout fund show up for the drafting session. One of them tells me to grab him some coffee.

10:54 am - As I'm handing him his mug of coffee, I just barely touch his hand. I almost climax.

11:00 am to 10:45 pm - I suck more people's dicks. Finally, I can go home.

11:05 pm - I'm about to sneak out of the office, when a senior partner leaves me a voicemail telling me that there's a whole bunch of shit to do. I was told during law school that biglawyers work a little less than junior investment bankers, but I guess I was lied to; I'll have to spend the night in the office. Again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118201)





Date: July 1st, 2006 2:59 PM
Author: Apoplectic startled tanning salon

i laughed at this. ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118211)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:11 PM
Author: buck-toothed marketing idea idiot

you're too stupid and unprestigious to ever become a biglawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118252)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:28 PM
Author: Apoplectic startled tanning salon

agreed. kill self?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118306)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:58 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

A+++++++++

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118448)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:56 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

My days vary a lot. But as a basic template:

9:30 Come in, read newspaper.

10am-6pm Talk on phone with people about issues in documents. Eat lunch at desk.

6pm-7:30pm Revise drafts of those documents.

7:30pm-8pm Dinner

8pm-? Revise drafts of those documents.

That's what I do -- negotiate documents, and draft them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118439)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:57 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

riveting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118443)





Date: July 1st, 2006 3:59 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

How does a negotiation with a document go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118453)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:01 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

?

I normally negotiate with people about documents. Not with documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118460)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:02 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

You don't know anything about negotiation, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118463)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:05 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

What do you mean? If you mean that I'm not particularly trained in negotiation, I'd concede that. If you mean I don't negotiate, I would disagree. I'm not the one negotiating price or major deal terms, but the junior associates pretty regularly negotiate confidentiality agreements, agreements with various agents (i-bank engagement letters, exchange agent agreements, proxy solicitor engagements), language in securities filings, reps in merger agreements, disclosure schedules, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118481)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:06 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

Typical they don't let you get anywhere near money. You'll always be below ibankers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118488)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:07 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

far below, even

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118491)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:09 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

In preschool on career day, a v50 partner's child was teased mercilessly. It was then I knew a career in law was a dead end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118494)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace

Good thing you attend TAMU then, hotbed of ibank recruiting that it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118730)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:20 PM
Author: Mahogany hospital

"i don't do anything important, but, like the other tards, i get to 'negotiate' boilerplate clauses."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118537)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:02 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

Usually pretty one-sided, which is nice because we can feel like we're winning, which is much different than negotiating with the ibankers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118466)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:02 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

This doesn't sound too bad up utnil after dinner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118464)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:05 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

He could cut his day in half if his first revision of the documents weren't so shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118479)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:06 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

Corporate associates never know what they're doing. That's why they chose a career of proofreading and due diligence rather than practicing law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118485)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:08 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

You two are pretty boring. I'd love to hear how your typical day goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118492)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:10 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

My day is pretty similar to yours, actually. Just giving you a hard time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118497)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:10 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

11:20 get up

11:25 smoke weed

12-2 class

2:20 smoke

3 dr phil

4:30 PTI

5 smoke

3am sleep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118498)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:12 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118504)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:14 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

Dr Phil bro? GHEY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118511)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:15 PM
Author: Tripping blathering pit

wtf bro? phil roolz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118514)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:18 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

IF YOU WANT DIFFERENT DO DIFFERENT- this is not roolz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118530)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:17 PM
Author: buck-toothed marketing idea idiot

this is the best life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118527)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:38 PM
Author: Apoplectic startled tanning salon

it never ceases to amaze me how many people make PTI a crucial part of their day. that show is still good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118620)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: lascivious coldplay fan public bath

good thing showers and dates don't sneak their way into your schedule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118799)





Date: July 1st, 2006 6:33 PM
Author: crawly unhinged ticket booth

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6119092)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:14 PM
Author: thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant

How do you know when you have the ability to "negotiate" a particular term, and when that term should be passed to someone higher up? If the negotiate to reach an agreed upon understanding, generally, or are you really getting something more for your side?

Thanks for continuing to contribute even with so many jackasses here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118510)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:19 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

Depends. To some extent you just have a feel for what people care about. Or you'll negotiate your first ____ agreement/rep/whatever and ask the partner for advice, and by your second or third you'll know what to do on your own. In general, the more something restricts your client, creates liability, or allows the other side to do dangerous things, the less you can do on your own.

In general you negotiate to achieve more for your side, though it depends a bit. But there are a whole lot of provisions in any large contract that the principals don't have an "understanding" about -- no CEO has a clear, well-founded opinion on what his absence-of-changes rep should say -- but that are nonetheless important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118534)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:02 PM
Author: thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant

So it sounds like you quickly move from having no experience to someone with responsibility for at least pieces of the deal. It sounds like a job for someone who likes chatting it up on the phone.

Anyone call you a "f--king monkey scribe" yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118716)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 1:31 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

Yes. I (and most of my classmates) became responsible for parts of deals very quickly. There are deals where I'm the only associate and entirely responsible for things like confidentiality agreements, reps and warranties, disclosure schedules, proxy statement, etc. Partners will occasionally take a quick look. And I talk on the phone a lot.

No one has called me a fucking monkey scribe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6122946)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:17 PM
Author: outnumbered light messiness

That does seem quite painful, and unless ? is like 8:15, ridiculously long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118524)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:20 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

Well I'm writing at a very general level. Replace "negotiate and draft documents" with "review emails and troll Lexis" and you have a day in the life of a litigator.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118541)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:22 PM
Author: outnumbered light messiness

Hardly -- only an idiot would use lexis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118552)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:24 PM
Author: buck-toothed marketing idea idiot

haha, i'm not clear on what "troll lexis" even means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118560)





Date: July 1st, 2006 4:58 PM
Author: thriller fantasy-prone station legal warrant

Lexis is cheaper and has a better interface. It's the choice of champions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118693)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:02 PM
Author: crimson sanctuary pistol

Westlaw pwns lexis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118714)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace

The fact that you can get pleadings from cases handled by quality firms makes your life much easier. Gibson handled an identical, and very complicated, issue to what I was charged with researching, and I stayed late that night rewriting their work. I next "worked from home" the next two days watching espn and lounging at the pool, then turned in the assignment a full day early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118747)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: crimson sanctuary pistol

wow, you're gonna be a great lawyer someday!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118754)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace

I think it's clear I already am. Besides, why re-create the wheel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118762)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: outnumbered light messiness

Do they not have pleadings on lexis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118755)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Infuriating Spot Electric Furnace

Not that I recall, but I haven't used Lexis in years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118764)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: outnumbered light messiness

Sucks to be them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118768)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Maniacal son of senegal locale

yes, they actually do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118767)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:06 PM
Author: outnumbered light messiness

Cheaper? WTF? Why would I possibly care if it is cheaper? Lexis is shit. Westlaw is far superior. Nothing is worse that a lexis citation that forces me to use that crap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118731)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:07 PM
Author: crimson sanctuary pistol

i hate how lexis's citation's must be perfect...if you cite "columbia law review" it will have no idea what you're doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118736)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:08 PM
Author: cobalt big regret nursing home

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118738)





Date: July 1st, 2006 5:09 PM
Author: outnumbered light messiness

I just can't figure out why they would not have the useful headnotes like westlaw. The lexis headnotes are worthless. And the key number digest is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6118741)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 10:41 AM
Author: Bright Gunner Dysfunction

Both interfaces are fucking hopeless. I'm praying for the day that google starts indexing caselaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6122440)





Date: July 1st, 2006 6:59 PM
Author: Ebony seedy quadroon

Are you ever solely responsible for drafting whole, extensive deals (like 50 pages and up) or are they derived from other sources? (like multiple authors and existing documents).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6119225)





Date: July 1st, 2006 7:14 PM
Author: crimson sanctuary pistol

that'd probably constitute malpractice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6119290)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 1:33 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

I don't think anyone has ever sat down (at least not in the last 40 years) and written a merger agreement from scratch. It would make no sense. I am often responsible for first drafts of merger agreements, but I'll stitch them together from precedents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6122953)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 2:11 PM
Author: Ebony seedy quadroon

Thanks for the response - so you would say that the challenge of your job lies in deciding the appropriate terms/rules/prices within somewhat standardized formats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6123191)





Date: July 1st, 2006 7:14 PM
Author: crimson sanctuary pistol

The 7 Habits of Highly Useless Corporate Lawyers.

"Ernie from Glen Burnie", not his real name, is an unreliable but wise childhood friend of mine who likes the works of Hunter Thompson. EFGB is now a partner at a Washington, DC law firm. For years he has claimed that the following--by an unknown and long-dead lawyer, and dated 1836--was discovered during the 1980s in the ruins of an old Episcopal church in a northern Virginia town near our native DC. I would believe EFGB--except that I doubt that the word "weenie" was much in style in the antebellum American south:

1. Be risk-averse at all times. Clients have come to expect this from their lawyers. It's tradition. Honor it.

2. Tell the client only what it can't do. Business clients are run by business people who take risks. They need to be managed, guided, stopped. Don't encourage them.

3. Whatever you do, don't take a stand, and don't make a recommendation. (You don't want to be wrong, do you?)

4. Treat the client as a potential adversary at all times. Keep a distance.

5. Cover yourself. Write a lot to the client. Craft lots of confirming letters which use clauses like "it is our understanding", "our analysis is limited to..." and "we do not express an opinion as to whether..."

6. Churn up extra fees with extra letters and memoranda and tasks. Milk the engagement. (If you are going to be a weenie anyway, you might as well be a sneaky weenie.)

7. As out-house counsel, you are American royalty. Never forget that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6119288)





Date: July 2nd, 2006 1:35 PM
Author: Geriatric Shimmering Native Therapy

There are many firms for which this is 100% accurate. Mine, fortunately, is not one of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#6122963)





Date: January 12th, 2008 12:12 PM
Author: electric lilac turdskin faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&forum_id=2#9151348)