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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/16/06
ghey.
disrespectful forum background story
  08/16/06
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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/16/06
Thanks, Macaca.
Talented messiness ape
  08/16/06
lol
orange razzle-dazzle quadroon
  08/17/06
180
Soul-stirring bright sanctuary shitlib
  08/17/06
I only read parts of this. Can't you edit it down?
Shivering cuckold
  08/16/06
11. introduce yourself as Sidarth. Smilely politely when th...
Bateful old irish cottage
  08/16/06
Hah
brindle scourge upon the earth striped hyena
  08/16/06
Sup?
aromatic nighttime kitchen
  08/16/06
12. don't bring up smashed presidential ambitions.
histrionic rehab coldplay fan
  08/17/06
nice
carmine private investor
  08/17/06
1) Most interviewers are as bored by the process and the for...
slate den milk
  08/16/06
5. strikes me as a spot-on comment. You guys have no idea ho...
aromatic nighttime kitchen
  08/16/06
Agree with all of it, especially 1. On a similar note, I th...
Beady-eyed Twisted Parlor Knife
  08/16/06
If the firm is in Minneapolis and you are going to law schoo...
light trip business firm gaming laptop
  08/16/06
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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/17/06
some clothing tips
Concupiscible demanding church
  08/17/06
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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/17/06
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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/17/06
Most importantly, be yourself.
orange razzle-dazzle quadroon
  08/17/06
this may be sarcastic, but in truth it's good advice. But be...
slate den milk
  08/17/06
um... "be yourself" is only good advice if yoursel...
comical factory reset button
  08/17/06
Only if you are willing to maintain this fake persona every ...
orange razzle-dazzle quadroon
  08/17/06
why would you need to do that once they've hired you? i've n...
comical factory reset button
  08/17/06
And what if they didn't want sunshiney? It is a law firm and...
orange razzle-dazzle quadroon
  08/17/06
"And what if they didn't want sunshiney?" then ...
comical factory reset button
  08/17/06
You don't know what is more hirable, because you can't read ...
orange razzle-dazzle quadroon
  08/17/06
you can be pretty sure that a friendly and outgoing candidat...
comical factory reset button
  08/17/06
We're just getting into semantics now. My point is - don't p...
slate den milk
  08/17/06
"If you have a weird compulsion to pick scabs off of yo...
Glassy temple
  08/17/06
Hey OP, where did you work this summer? Are you qualified t...
low-t hominid
  08/17/06
pwned?
orange razzle-dazzle quadroon
  08/17/06
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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/17/06
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harsh indian lodge pozpig
  08/18/06


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Date: August 16th, 2006 10:20 PM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6452930)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:29 PM
Author: disrespectful forum background story

ghey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6452999)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:32 PM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453007)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:37 PM
Author: Talented messiness ape

Thanks, Macaca.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453037)





Date: August 17th, 2006 3:27 PM
Author: orange razzle-dazzle quadroon

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6456821)





Date: August 17th, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: Soul-stirring bright sanctuary shitlib

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457596)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:34 PM
Author: Shivering cuckold

I only read parts of this.

Can't you edit it down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453020)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:38 PM
Author: Bateful old irish cottage

11. introduce yourself as Sidarth. Smilely politely when the interviewer calls you "macaca"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453045)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:39 PM
Author: brindle scourge upon the earth striped hyena

Hah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453049)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:57 PM
Author: aromatic nighttime kitchen

Sup?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453169)





Date: August 17th, 2006 1:36 AM
Author: histrionic rehab coldplay fan

12. don't bring up smashed presidential ambitions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6454038)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:44 PM
Author: carmine private investor

nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457327)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:39 PM
Author: slate den milk

1) Most interviewers are as bored by the process and the forced conversation as you are. As a result most are dying to talk about anything remotely interesting, and if you have a successful conversation about cheese, it's a good interview.

2) For christ's sake, have an interest section on your resume. If you wonder why, see #1.

3) Ladies - you can wear pants. Really, I swear. However, please don't wear the lime green slingbacks. No, they do not spice up that boring interview suit.

4) Gentlemen - buy a suit that fits correctly, particularly in the shoulders. Otherwise you look like an 18-yr-old wearing daddy's suit.

5) Don't insult anything. If you have to make negative commentary, couch it in extreme politeness. Be politic. They don't expect you to love everything, but they do expect you not to bitch/dish/gossip about things. (This applies in particular to questions about you 1L summer job, and questions about 1L classes).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453050)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:53 PM
Author: aromatic nighttime kitchen

5. strikes me as a spot-on comment. You guys have no idea how many times I get CONVERSATIONPWN3D by inadvertently insulting something the other person really likes. It's like I have a talent for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453145)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:56 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Twisted Parlor Knife

Agree with all of it, especially 1. On a similar note, I think it's helpful for students to remember that terrible interviewer who didn't say anything and made you feel like you were pulling teeth. Interviewers don't like it when students act like that either - talk!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453161)





Date: August 16th, 2006 10:45 PM
Author: light trip business firm gaming laptop

If the firm is in Minneapolis and you are going to law school in Boston / NY/ DC, have an answer for the question

"Why do you want to move to Minneapolis?"

It is not a good answer to say that this is the only OCI interview you got.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6453093)





Date: August 17th, 2006 9:34 AM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6455075)





Date: August 17th, 2006 9:45 AM
Author: Concupiscible demanding church
Subject: some clothing tips

1. Every year there are dozens of threads about whether black suits are appropriate. The mere fact that the threads are so intense indicates that plenty of people do not think they are appropriate. Dont risk having your screener fall into this camp. Buy a very dark blue suit or a dark gray suit.

2. Off the rack suits are fine but you need to have them tailored to fit you in the waist The suit must actually fit your shoulders; if it does not, get a smaller size suit, seriously, jesus. the comment about wearing your dads clothes or "playing dressup" is completely correct.

3. I personally hate cuffs on pants, but not everyone cares. the likelihood, however, that the pants you pulled off the rack are the proper length is slim to none, so get those hemmed as well. When you go to the tailor, wear the shoes you plan to wear to the interview.

4. Your shoes should be polished. it just gives the impression that you pay attention to details.

5. If you are having a suit made for you, buy 2 pairs of pants. you wear thru pants much more frequently than jackets and pants also wrinkle more quickly.

6. dont get your suit dry cleaned too frequently because the life will be shortened. do however get it pressed at the cleaners.

7. Bonus tips: dont expect your screener to have read your resume. its actually better if he hasnt because you can steer him to the hilights

8. "Macaca" may be offensive to some.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6455091)





Date: August 17th, 2006 10:19 AM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6455150)





Date: August 17th, 2006 3:26 PM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6456817)





Date: August 17th, 2006 3:27 PM
Author: orange razzle-dazzle quadroon

Most importantly, be yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6456826)





Date: August 17th, 2006 3:33 PM
Author: slate den milk

this may be sarcastic, but in truth it's good advice. But be the aspects of yourself you like. Be selective about what part of yourself you show, but don't lie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6456860)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:18 PM
Author: comical factory reset button

um... "be yourself" is only good advice if yourself is the most hirable personality you can affect. don't be yourself; optimize your personality to make them want to hire you. stop short of lying if you could get caught.

your post is just equivocation. "[b]e[ing] selective about what part of yourself you show" is not being yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457171)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:22 PM
Author: orange razzle-dazzle quadroon

Only if you are willing to maintain this fake persona every day at work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457199)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:28 PM
Author: comical factory reset button

why would you need to do that once they've hired you? i've never heard of a lawyer losing his job for being less sunshiney than he first appeared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457239)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:37 PM
Author: orange razzle-dazzle quadroon

And what if they didn't want sunshiney? It is a law firm and not TGIF. What if they wanted the real you, which you covered up in a facade which you falsely thought would impress them on an interview?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457282)





Date: August 17th, 2006 5:00 PM
Author: comical factory reset button

"And what if they didn't want sunshiney?"

then you're not doing sunshiney correctly

"What if they wanted the real you, which you covered up in a facade which you falsely thought would impress them on an interview?"

this is why you should adopt a personality that is MORE hirable than your natural one, not less

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457421)





Date: August 17th, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: orange razzle-dazzle quadroon

You don't know what is more hirable, because you can't read their minds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457591)





Date: August 17th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: comical factory reset button

you can be pretty sure that a friendly and outgoing candidate will score better than an introverted one. these are educated guesses, they are very likely to be correct, and they don't require reading minds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457612)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:32 PM
Author: slate den milk

We're just getting into semantics now. My point is - don't pretend to be something that is completely not the way you behave. Don't pretend to be superextroverted if you are shy, don't pretend you adore football when you have never watched a game, etc. It's uncomfortable, it will come off as uncomfortable, and unless you're a great bullshitter, the 'fake you' will suck. Things that are real ring true, are comfortable, and seem genuine because they are. My point about being selective was simply that there are good qualities and bad qualities. Show your good qualities. They're still honest. If you have a weird compulsion to pick scabs off of yourself, that's honest, but something you don't want to show during the interview. If you have an enormous tendency to berate yourself verbally about things, showing your low self-esteem, that's honest, but you want to bite your tongue on it during the interview. None of this is to say 'don't be yourself.'

This is no different than a first date. You shouldn't act like someone you're not, but you also don't 'let it all hang out'. This isn't that difficult a concept.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457256)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:35 PM
Author: Glassy temple

"If you have a weird compulsion to pick scabs off of yourself"

i picked through the hair of all my interviewers, looking for bugs and eating what i found. 8 callbacks, 7 offers (ding at Cravath, where they apparently do it themsleves)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457274)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:21 PM
Author: low-t hominid

Hey OP, where did you work this summer? Are you qualified to give advice on this subject?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457193)





Date: August 17th, 2006 4:39 PM
Author: orange razzle-dazzle quadroon

pwned?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457292)





Date: August 17th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6457588)





Date: August 18th, 2006 11:23 AM
Author: harsh indian lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=474401&forum_id=2#6461970)