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Is XOXO the new post-irony?

Assume for purposes of this thread that "irony" in...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
*gives you tenure in the English department*
¶Œ‡®‰d¤££ª®
  10/23/06
For example, when I randomly call someone a "whore"...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
In a truly postironic world though your interaction with Pet...
fulano
  10/23/06
yeah, what that guy said.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
Whore.
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
Me fail english, that's unpossible.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
Ralph ALWAYS ADDS VALUE. "Sleep, that's where I'm a ...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
that's where the leprechan tells me to burn things.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
Pavement blows.
J.
  10/23/06
Non-responsive.
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
It's a reflex.
J.
  10/23/06
you should take some medication for it
fulano
  10/23/06
Who is the second lyric by? They probably suck too.
J.
  10/23/06
Modest Mouse.
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
Awesome. I was right.
J.
  10/23/06
how could you not like the band that came up with this: dow...
fulano
  10/23/06
Sarcasm?
J.
  10/23/06
i understand the confusion since the song itself is preposti...
fulano
  10/23/06
I was an English major. You can't trip me up with shit lik...
J.
  10/23/06
But that song isn't even abot FEELINGS and how they HURT. O...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
1) I'm fairly sure it's nunchucks, not nachos dood. 2) Pave...
Specialists in Authorship Studies
  10/31/06
I've always thought it was nachos.
Always Adding Value
  10/31/06
its nachos. i didnt even want to dignify that with a respon...
fulano
  10/31/06
I was never under the impression that people in southern cal...
Always Adding Value
  10/31/06
SoCal HEARTS nunchucks dude. do you research.
Specialists in Authorship Studies
  10/31/06
it's not an open and shut case. i've also heard a strong ar...
Specialists in Authorship Studies
  10/31/06
THE IMPUDENCE
fulano
  10/31/06
UR AN IMPUDENCE HOMOFACE
Specialists in Authorship Studies
  10/31/06
Tehs gabos? OH NOES!
Always Adding Value
  10/31/06
Can I propose a new variation on TTIWWOP? Perhaps TSiteIW...
Specialists in Authorship Studies
  10/31/06
This asshole appears to think the lyric is "nose."...
Skeletori Spelling
  10/31/06
ah yes the just ... just combo. a regular in SoCal. "...
fulano
  10/31/06
My head hurts.
Rowan
  10/23/06
Get a fucking job.
Subotai, thief and archer
  10/23/06
Rowan has a job and a headache. I have neither. I mean,...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
Your mother is a whore.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
Rude. EDIT: Rocket from the Crypt fan?
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
only in the metaphorical sense.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
And what, pray tell, does your feigned adoration of Rocket f...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
the failure of american culture.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
Heavy, dude. Heavy.
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
that's why they call it the blues.
Ash J. Williams
  10/23/06
Elton John, ironically, might have been an archetypal post-i...
Always Adding Value
  10/24/06
i've often wondered this
C+C™
  10/23/06
For whatever reason, this made me laugh out loud.
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
this thread was instant gold from your OP but having Petro a...
fulano
  10/23/06
Yes, Petro's threads cheering the death of US soldiers are p...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
Seriously, dude, on a MONDAY? Not cool.
done and done
  10/23/06
Going to the mall on a MONDAY is not ironic, but it is weird...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
didn't sept. 11 and following the new sincerity ruin "p...
Sweep the Leg Johnny
  10/23/06
Yes and no. I mean, I don't think sincerity is post-irony, ...
Always Adding Value
  10/23/06
It's intersting to me that irony has new meaning and purpose...
msbdtxnyc
  10/31/06
one of the reasons i don't understand current hipsters is th...
A Simple Asian Man
  04/19/07
This thread and "Toward a Consensus Philsophy of Shit-e...
Skeletori Spelling
  10/31/06
That was a classic.
LeBronny
  10/31/06
fuck you
Red Means Go
  10/31/06
Rude.
Always Adding Value
  10/31/06
To subsume the binary ... shrewd and decadent. Having your c...
reichstag earth & wind
  10/31/06
Somewhat prescient in light of the boards recent infamy. ...
Bodhi Tree Miracle
  03/26/07
bump
A Simple Asian Man
  03/23/08
I'd say Momus beat xoxo to it. http://www.phespirit.info/mo...
.....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,.,,,,
  03/26/07
I think that is trained irony. Not very effective, but the ...
Bodhi Tree Miracle
  03/26/07
I've felt the semantic sting.
.....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,.,,,,
  03/26/07
Constructivism and textual discourse
Post modernist
  03/26/07
Phallologocentric dreck, this.
Bodhi Tree Miracle
  03/26/07
Joyce and precapitalist dematerialism
Post modernist
  03/26/07
Tell me more about post-fordism.
.....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,.,,,,
  03/26/07
Consensuses of meaninglessness
Post modernist
  03/26/07
i'll give u a nickel to dress up in drag as a white chick an...
David Carr
  03/26/07
Heavens no. actor qua actor, symbol qua symbol...
Bodhi Tree Miracle
  03/26/07
I'm still being followed by the teenage FBI.
Dr. Science
  04/19/07
Bump in light of recent discussions
fulano
  03/23/08


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Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:33 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Assume for purposes of this thread that "irony" involved people who smoke hash and go to dive bars wearing Cub Scout hats (which is almost certainly not ironic) and artist that are almost universally considered to be "important" by music cirtics writing lyrics like "What about the voice of Geddy Lee? How did it get so high? I wonder if he talks like an ordinary guy? I know him, and he does. Well you're my fact checking cuz." and "I guess that I miss you. And I'm sorry if I dissed you" (which might be ironic, but I'm not sure why).

Assume for the purpose of this thread that Hip-Hop was the old post-irony. Because there is nothing less ironic than hip-hop.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841016)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:35 PM
Author: ¶Œ‡®‰d¤££ª®


*gives you tenure in the English department*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841025)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:45 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

For example, when I randomly call someone a "whore" or a "rapist" on here, I'm almost certainly not being entirely ironic (and least not in the wholesale sense) but I'm certainly not being entirely serious either.

The thing is, I don't necessary even parse out in my own mind to what extent I'm being ironic (in so far as someone who is fairly well educated vis-a-vis the liberal canon calling someone a "whore" for no reason is ironic) and to what extent I'm being serious. I don't even know exactly how what I typed would inflect if I spoke it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841088)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:49 PM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

In a truly postironic world though your interaction with Petro would have been more closely approximating the archetypal strand of irony, which is to say nonironic, or at least not ironic based on your definition of how you see ironic to be ironically portrayed on an internet message board. good point about the inflection though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841118)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:50 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

yeah, what that guy said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841130)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:53 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Whore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841150)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:36 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

Me fail english, that's unpossible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841031)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:41 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Ralph ALWAYS ADDS VALUE.

"Sleep, that's where I'm a viking!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841059)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:48 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

that's where the leprechan tells me to burn things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841110)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:40 PM
Author: J. (I get my kicks up in the attic with a Kodak instamatic)

Pavement blows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841051)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:42 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Non-responsive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841062)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:42 PM
Author: J. (I get my kicks up in the attic with a Kodak instamatic)

It's a reflex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841066)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:43 PM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

you should take some medication for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841068)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:44 PM
Author: J. (I get my kicks up in the attic with a Kodak instamatic)

Who is the second lyric by? They probably suck too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841082)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:45 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Modest Mouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841090)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:50 PM
Author: J. (I get my kicks up in the attic with a Kodak instamatic)

Awesome. I was right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841127)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:46 PM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

how could you not like the band that came up with this:

down in Santa Rosa over the bay

across the grapevine to L.A.

we've got desert, we've got trees

we've got the hills of Beverly

let's burn the hills of Beverly!!

walk with your credit card in the air!!

swing your nachos just like you just don't care!!

this is the slow sick sucking part of me

this is the slow sick sucking part of me

and when i suck in kisses, it's ours...

up to the top of the shasta gulch

and to the bottom of the tahoe lakes

manmade deltas and concrete rivers

the south takes what the north delivers

you film hack, i don't use your...fade...

lost in the foothills of my pride

Trocadero, say good night

to the LAST PSYCHEDELIC BAND

FROM sac' to, northern cal.

FROM sac' to northern cal.

take it; neighbor; cuz you're my neighbor;

and i need favors; you're my neighbor;

you've done me favors; cuz i'm your neighbor;

i'm not your neighbor, you bakersfield trash.

traaaaaash! traaaaaash!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841102)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:51 PM
Author: J. (I get my kicks up in the attic with a Kodak instamatic)

Sarcasm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841132)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:00 PM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

i understand the confusion since the song itself is prepostirony or actually timestamped ironic whereas my post comes from an arguably postironic place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841208)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:27 PM
Author: J. (I get my kicks up in the attic with a Kodak instamatic)

I was an English major. You can't trip me up with shit like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841372)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:54 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

But that song isn't even abot FEELINGS and how they HURT. Oh, how they hurt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841157)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:02 AM
Author: Specialists in Authorship Studies

1) I'm fairly sure it's nunchucks, not nachos dood.

2) Pavement rules.

3) Irony is the most overused word of the modern day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891649)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:08 AM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

I've always thought it was nachos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891668)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:09 AM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

its nachos. i didnt even want to dignify that with a response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891672)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:12 AM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

I was never under the impression that people in southern calfornia had an unusual prediliction towards brandishing nunchucks...nachos on the other hand...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891680)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:14 AM
Author: Specialists in Authorship Studies

SoCal HEARTS nunchucks dude. do you research.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891684)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:13 AM
Author: Specialists in Authorship Studies

it's not an open and shut case. i've also heard a strong argument made for "swing your nose just like you."

given that malkmus made this shit up on the spot, i think it's perfectly understandishable there would be debate on this issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891682)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:20 AM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

THE IMPUDENCE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891700)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:23 AM
Author: Specialists in Authorship Studies

UR AN IMPUDENCE HOMOFACE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891704)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:25 AM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Tehs gabos?

OH NOES!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891707)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:28 AM
Author: Specialists in Authorship Studies

Can I propose a new variation on TTIWWOP?

Perhaps TSiteIWWOCatchprases?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891710)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:12 AM
Author: Skeletori Spelling (Bust a nut inside your eye just to show you where I come from)

This asshole appears to think the lyric is "nose."

http://lyrics.duble.com/lyrics/P/pavement-lyrics/pavement-unfair-lyrics.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891681)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:14 AM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

ah yes the just ... just combo. a regular in SoCal. "I just dont just order fries" etc etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891685)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:43 PM
Author: Rowan

My head hurts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841071)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:44 PM
Author: Subotai, thief and archer

Get a fucking job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841075)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:51 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Rowan has a job and a headache.

I have neither. I mean, I suppose I have a job in the parlance of this board. But circa now (the name of an album by a band whose name I forget, but who was definitely not universally regard as important by music critics), my primiary responsibilities consist of watching sports on TV and binge drinking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841139)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:54 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

Your mother is a whore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841154)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:55 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Rude.

EDIT: Rocket from the Crypt fan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841160)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:58 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

only in the metaphorical sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841188)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:00 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

And what, pray tell, does your feigned adoration of Rocket from the Crypt serve as a metaphor for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841205)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:02 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

the failure of american culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841221)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:05 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Heavy, dude.

Heavy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841243)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:07 PM
Author: Ash J. Williams

that's why they call it the blues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841250)





Date: October 24th, 2006 2:05 AM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Elton John, ironically, might have been an archetypal post-irony figure but only during the portion of his career which occured entirely pre-irony.

I mean, is crocodile rock ironic? I think the answer is "maybe."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6846345)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:55 PM
Author: C+C™ (Gonna Make You Sweat)

i've often wondered this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841163)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:56 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

For whatever reason, this made me laugh out loud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841168)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 1:58 PM
Author: fulano (cute butt bouncing in the air)

this thread was instant gold from your OP but having Petro act as first responder makes this next level stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841182)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:01 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Yes, Petro's threads cheering the death of US soldiers are properly within the ambiet of this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841214)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:18 PM
Author: done and done

Seriously, dude, on a MONDAY?

Not cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841316)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:26 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Going to the mall on a MONDAY is not ironic, but it is weird. Almost disorienting in a way. XOXO is definitely weird and disorienting that's not what I'm trying to figure out. What I'm trying to figure out is the extent to which XOXO is ironic and, as a second order question, the extent to which it is cognizant of this irony (or lack there of).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841360)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:40 PM
Author: Sweep the Leg Johnny (doin' thangs)

didn't sept. 11 and following the new sincerity ruin "post-irony" as a term?

xo sometimes enters into irony unintentionally, i.e. "don shall see the jewess tonight!" which often yields better results than jew bitches in auschwitz irony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841476)





Date: October 23rd, 2006 2:52 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Yes and no. I mean, I don't think sincerity is post-irony, I think its just unironic. Call it a reversion or whatever, but its not an advancement. It maybe be "post" chronologically, but it is "pre" idealogically.

In the sense the post-modernism wasn't adverse to the ideas of modernism (i.e. post-modernism wasn't about reverting to romanticism or whatever) but was simply abstracted from the ideas of modernism (i.e. it didn't feel they were germane or relevant anymore, at least not as originally articulated), post-irony isn't about not being ironic. Its about an indifference to irony. Irony is necessarily integrated into the nature of the language because irony "happened," but it isn't a reason for the language to exist in and of itself anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6841550)





Date: October 31st, 2006 11:59 AM
Author: msbdtxnyc

It's intersting to me that irony has new meaning and purpose, or at least possibilities for meaning and purpose, post-9/11. On the one hand, pure reference humor for its own sake a la Family Guy made it through from the 90s just fine. And actually that dividing line between pointless irony/sarcasm/absurdist humor of the 90s, and the people who still want to cling to it, and people who are interested in the new meanings and objectives that are possible now says something about the audiences for both. And it probably also says something bad about the overprivileged, useless, but nonetheless reasonably clever set of people who milk this space for every last drop of procrastination and amusement that it can offer. I mean, this is just a message board. It's relatively standard 90s wink, nudge, in-on-the-joke, scare the n00b fare, if well executed. And none of us would be here without the modicum of substantive information we can get about a prospective future career.

But Colbert is something new and different entirely (apart from maybe Tek Jansen, although arguably not even then), and TDS, while grounded in that 90s background, made the shift pretty seemlessly to taking on a point of view that was simultaneously detached and snide but also a source of considerably more meaning (and they don't have it fully resolved either, I would argue). Do you guys remember the first promos with Jon Stewart where he was trying to get people on the red carpet to talk to him? I guess it was as much a circumstance of the times as anything else, but it's still weird that there were two weeks where a former male prostitute was outed as a fake reporter lobbing softballs at the White House fracking Press Secretary, and TDS were the only people who would talk about it. It's weird to see irony be so serious and angry. Part of me feels like it justifies the 90s, like "see it is all bullshit and we are right to mock it and distrust it." But then you have to take that a step further, right? I mean if everything is that fucked, we need more than jokes, so it also makes me feel lazy for continuing to enjoy irony for its own sake so much. Part of the deal in the 90s was that irony didn't take itself and its own arguments seriously, and was as much about finding an excuse to be lazy as anything else, which was fine as long as times were good and the world didn't seem like it was ready to blow any minute now. Colbert at least goes that extra step of deconstructing the arguments of the bad guys and/or disconnecting the message of the bad guys' propaganda from the packaging and looking at what's left. TDS, Jon will talk about what a douche Ashcroft is, and then have him on to hawk his book the next day, and all the problems are glossed over by a few self-depricating quips.

So I have no idea what to make of any of this, but I'm pretty sure we're nowhere close to figuring it out, and xoxo is in no way any kind of lasting answer. Except that it's on the internet, which makes a difference, but I have no specific, good reason as to how.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891984)





Date: April 19th, 2007 1:44 PM
Author: A Simple Asian Man

one of the reasons i don't understand current hipsters is that they are very 90s yet they don't seem to know it. they seem to believe that being ironic, drinking cheap beer, and shopping at a thrift store is somehow very cutting edge and new cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7963470)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:05 AM
Author: Skeletori Spelling (Bust a nut inside your eye just to show you where I come from)

This thread and "Toward a Consensus Philsophy of Shit-eating" should be the two primary sources used by that Temple prof in his analysis of this site.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891656)





Date: October 31st, 2006 10:57 AM
Author: LeBronny

That was a classic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891794)





Date: October 31st, 2006 11:13 AM
Author: Red Means Go (I'm Red Means Go and I approve of this post)

fuck you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6891841)





Date: October 31st, 2006 1:25 PM
Author: Always Adding Value (PR man for intellectual charlatancy)

Rude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6892323)





Date: October 31st, 2006 1:27 PM
Author: reichstag earth & wind

To subsume the binary ... shrewd and decadent. Having your cake and eating it too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#6892327)





Date: March 26th, 2007 11:35 AM
Author: Bodhi Tree Miracle

Somewhat prescient in light of the boards recent infamy.

While our decriers missed this point altogether, our defenders fumbled with their words trying to articulate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819507)





Date: March 23rd, 2008 9:05 PM
Author: A Simple Asian Man

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#9521164)





Date: March 26th, 2007 11:37 AM
Author: .....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,.,,,, (one, two, three, no gravity)


I'd say Momus beat xoxo to it.

http://www.phespirit.info/momus/19980109.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819518)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:11 PM
Author: Bodhi Tree Miracle

I think that is trained irony. Not very effective, but the speaker is trying to be coy or obtuse or something. Affected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819728)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:12 PM
Author: .....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,.,,,, (one, two, three, no gravity)


I've felt the semantic sting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819733)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:18 PM
Author: Post modernist
Subject: Constructivism and textual discourse

The characteristic theme of Finnis’s[3] analysis of prematerialist appropriation is the bridge between sexuality and sexual identity. The subject is interpolated into a constructivism that includes language as a paradox. But any number of theories concerning neodialectic Marxism exist.

If one examines textual discourse, one is faced with a choice: either reject neodialectic Marxism or conclude that narrativity has intrinsic meaning, but only if truth is interchangeable with narrativity; otherwise, Foucault’s model of textual discourse is one of “textual neocultural theory”, and hence responsible for class divisions. Derridaist reading holds that truth serves to oppress the proletariat. Therefore, the main theme of the works of Madonna is the role of the participant as poet.

“Society is fundamentally meaningless,” says Lacan; however, according to McElwaine[4] , it is not so much society that is fundamentally meaningless, but rather the futility, and some would say the dialectic, of society. Foucault suggests the use of textual discourse to challenge sexism. But Buxton[5] suggests that the works of Madonna are empowering.

If one examines the modern paradigm of discourse, one is faced with a choice: either accept constructivism or conclude that the purpose of the participant is significant form, given that Debord’s essay on neodialectic Marxism is valid. The subject is contextualised into a textual discourse that includes narrativity as a reality. Therefore, Lyotard promotes the use of constructivism to analyse and deconstruct sexual identity.

In the works of Madonna, a predominant concept is the distinction between feminine and masculine. The subject is interpolated into a neodialectic Marxism that includes culture as a totality. It could be said that the primary theme of Hamburger’s[6] critique of neodialectic capitalism is a self-fulfilling whole.

The premise of constructivism implies that truth may be used to reinforce the status quo. However, the example of neodialectic Marxism depicted in Madonna’s Sex emerges again in Material Girl, although in a more mythopoetical sense.

Constructivism states that sexuality is capable of truth, but only if art is distinct from culture. It could be said that the subject is contextualised into a neodialectic Marxism that includes truth as a reality.

Foucault suggests the use of constructivism to attack outmoded perceptions of class. Therefore, Sartre uses the term ‘textual discourse’ to denote the role of the writer as poet.

Debord promotes the use of the textual paradigm of consensus to analyse society. Thus, the subject is interpolated into a constructivism that includes art as a totality.

Bataille suggests the use of neodialectic Marxism to challenge the status quo. It could be said that if constructivism holds, the works of Madonna are modernistic.

A number of deconstructions concerning not sublimation, but postsublimation may be discovered. However, Lyotard uses the term ‘textual discourse’ to denote a self-sufficient reality.

The rubicon, and eventually the fatal flaw, of neodialectic Marxism prevalent in Madonna’s Erotica is also evident in Sex. But d’Erlette[7] holds that we have to choose between constructivism and semioticist subcultural theory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819768)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:21 PM
Author: Bodhi Tree Miracle

Phallologocentric dreck, this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819778)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:25 PM
Author: Post modernist
Subject: Joyce and precapitalist dematerialism

If one examines dialectic appropriation, one is faced with a choice: either accept semiotic neocultural theory or conclude that the task of the poet is significant form. An abundance of dematerialisms concerning the difference between sexual identity and art exist. However, the premise of precapitalist dematerialism implies that narrativity is part of the rubicon of sexuality, given that reality is interchangeable with truth.

The subject is interpolated into a dialectic appropriation that includes narrativity as a reality. But Sartre uses the term ‘precapitalist dematerialism’ to denote the role of the writer as observer.

If dialectic appropriation holds, we have to choose between precapitalist dematerialism and textual narrative. Thus, Derrida uses the term ‘dialectic precultural theory’ to denote not discourse, as Sontag would have it, but prediscourse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819789)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:26 PM
Author: .....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,.,,,, (one, two, three, no gravity)


Tell me more about post-fordism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819793)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:31 PM
Author: Post modernist
Subject: Consensuses of meaninglessness

“Society is intrinsically meaningless,” says Sontag; however, according to Werther, it is not so much society that is intrinsically meaningless, but rather the meaninglessness, and therefore the absurdity, of society. The creation/destruction distinction intrinsic to Gaiman’s Black Orchid emerges again in Neverwhere, although in a more mythopoetical sense. Thus, an abundance of discourses concerning prematerialist capitalist theory may be found.

In the works of Gaiman, a predominant concept is the concept of cultural consciousness. Neomodernist narrative states that narrative must come from the collective unconscious. But Derrida suggests the use of the neotextual paradigm of discourse to attack archaic perceptions of sexual identity.

Sontag’s analysis of neomodernist narrative implies that the law is part of the stasis of culture. It could be said that Tilton holds that we have to choose between Lyotardist narrative and precultural capitalism.

The subject is contextualised into a semioticist precultural theory that includes language as a whole. Therefore, the main theme of the works of Gaiman is the collapse of dialectic class.

Many discourses concerning the role of the observer as artist exist. It could be said that the premise of neomodernist narrative implies that consciousness is capable of truth.

In Death: The High Cost of Living, Gaiman examines semioticist precultural theory; in Stardust he affirms subcultural dialectic theory. But Bataille’s essay on neomodernist narrative suggests that the collective is unattainable, but only if postcultural Marxism is invalid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819815)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:27 PM
Author: David Carr (Glass of water for Mr. Grainger)

i'll give u a nickel to dress up in drag as a white chick and then let azn have his way with u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819795)





Date: March 26th, 2007 12:33 PM
Author: Bodhi Tree Miracle

Heavens no.

actor qua actor, symbol qua symbol...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7819819)





Date: April 19th, 2007 1:32 PM
Author: Dr. Science (Sucks for you, you motherfucking McBeef.)

I'm still being followed by the teenage FBI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#7963407)





Date: March 23rd, 2008 8:22 PM
Author: fulano (casse toi pauvre con!)

Bump in light of recent discussions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=511467&forum_id=2#9521004)