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GTO: A proposed course of action re: LSD [174]

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Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/10/07
Someone should at least start posting rumors of an XO takeov...
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
...
Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/10/07
I will start this, but it has to be gradual, don't flood it ...
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
i will flood it.
bull headed milk
  01/10/07
you're a shitty troll
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
credited, but i get the job done. hth.
bull headed milk
  01/10/07
Have you done it yet?
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80...
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
now, one of you needs to go over and confirm the rumor
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
I did. [fwerp] Look what the idiot with the dog icon just...
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
i confirmed it
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
I have no idea how to value a website...how much would LSD g...
floppy aquamarine spot
  01/10/07
luckily, we won't be needing your valuation skills, :D.
bull headed milk
  01/10/07
Faggot.
floppy aquamarine spot
  01/10/07
Like kicking a retarded dog, eh?
Internet-worthy location
  01/10/07
i guess someone got a fat tip yesterday at the GoldenWok, co...
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
as evidence, note that http://lsd.xoxohth.com/ has already b...
Provocative Travel Guidebook Partner
  01/10/07
We should adduce this on LSD!
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
Damn, I really want someone to take the bait!
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80...
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
Damn it, LSD won't load for me anymore. Did I get IPBANNE...
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
me too :(
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
are you guys really banned for that?
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
no it loaded for me after i posted here
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
the admin was on top of you us :-(
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
I'm a moderator, not an admin. hth.
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
Argh, FOILED.
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
Next time, try building up a more believable schtick by actu...
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
I don't know how unbelievable the schtick was. Surely, long...
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
I'll give you a hint: If they don't care enough to post in t...
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
did you know my thread on crapping on your SO during sex has...
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
i like you
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
maybe he wants to come to our side and become a powerful sit...
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
Yeah, seriously groundhog. You could be a powerful ally.
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07
Never. I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your...
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
It's only a matter of time.
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
dude, why not? i am mean srsly do you think those douches wh...
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
lol at craigslist
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
This overlooks the high number of users on LSD that are atte...
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
Of course there are top LSD posters. The point is that ther...
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
lol, i can't believe you fags are actually having a conversa...
Tan curious crackhouse
  01/10/07
stfu strom
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
fuck you faggot.
Tan curious crackhouse
  01/10/07
Extremely exaggerated. Most people on LSD, while optimists, ...
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
well, yes, but they won't tell a person that it's not really...
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
It depends. If you want to be in biglaw, you may be right. B...
Black insane mother
  01/10/07
meh, maybe, sure are a lot of personal anecdotes over there
tantric space round eye
  01/10/07
Yes. Some people like LSD because it is more personal.
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
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Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/10/07
LOL, my sig on LSD is 2.1 GPA/141 LSAT Chances at Chapman?
brindle exhilarant tanning salon
  01/10/07
And xo doesn't have its fair share of idiots?
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
You can't talk to 174 like that on this board, bitch.
Vibrant gold hell
  01/11/07
lol
Bat-shit-crazy Anal Fanboi
  01/11/07
Apparently xo has more compassion than LSDers usually give t...
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
The difference is that XOXO has its share of idiots...but on...
Electric Disrespectful Nursing Home Gaming Laptop
  01/11/07
I think you are underestimating LSD's realism, especially th...
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
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Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/11/07
I am waiting to hear back from schools. My LSN is linked on ...
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
...
Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/11/07
Like I said, my LSN is pretty obvious, especially to someone...
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
...
Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/11/07
Nice edit.
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
...
Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/11/07
yo u r so coollll
Bat-shit-crazy Anal Fanboi
  01/11/07
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx...
Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/11/07
Well that was unwarranted. Anyway, I don't think biglaw is e...
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
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Navy outnumbered background story address
  01/12/07
LOL
Tan curious crackhouse
  01/11/07
Date: January 10th, 2007 5:33 PM Author: Groundhog I'm a...
peach area shitlib
  01/11/07
like rach? big changes, hth.
Tan curious crackhouse
  01/11/07
Being a mod doesn't require too much work. There is the occa...
Black insane mother
  01/11/07
Nope, I'm able to access the page now.
Supple Hairless Forum Idiot
  01/10/07


Poast new message in this thread





Date: January 10th, 2007 3:51 PM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390367)





Date: January 10th, 2007 3:54 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Someone should at least start posting rumors of an XO takeover on LSD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390386)





Date: January 10th, 2007 3:59 PM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390413)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:01 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

I will start this, but it has to be gradual, don't flood it at first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390424)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:01 PM
Author: bull headed milk

i will flood it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390430)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:02 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

you're a shitty troll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390434)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:03 PM
Author: bull headed milk

credited, but i get the job done. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390439)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:11 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Have you done it yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390483)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:16 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80022.75.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390518)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:19 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

now, one of you needs to go over and confirm the rumor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390538)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:22 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

I did. [fwerp]

Look what the idiot with the dog icon just said:

"If LSD keeps being the same LSD I know and love, I'll use it no matter who ownes it. But, if it turns into another xoxo, I'll be the first to delete my account!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390558)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:31 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

i confirmed it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390639)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:04 PM
Author: floppy aquamarine spot

I have no idea how to value a website...how much would LSD go for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390448)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:06 PM
Author: bull headed milk

luckily, we won't be needing your valuation skills, :D.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390459)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:07 PM
Author: floppy aquamarine spot

Faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390469)





Date: January 10th, 2007 7:57 PM
Author: Internet-worthy location

Like kicking a retarded dog, eh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391994)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:11 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

i guess someone got a fat tip yesterday at the GoldenWok, congrats on your extra $5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390484)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:21 PM
Author: Provocative Travel Guidebook Partner

as evidence, note that http://lsd.xoxohth.com/ has already been reserved with ICANN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390556)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:23 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

We should adduce this on LSD!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390570)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:28 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Damn, I really want someone to take the bait!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390614)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:31 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80066.0.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390630)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:05 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Damn it, LSD won't load for me anymore.

Did I get IPBANNEDPWNED?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390909)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:16 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

me too :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390987)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:27 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

are you guys really banned for that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391053)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:28 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

no it loaded for me after i posted here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391060)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:29 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

the admin was on top of you us :-(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391064)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:33 PM
Author: Black insane mother

I'm a moderator, not an admin. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391102)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:35 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Argh, FOILED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391118)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:38 PM
Author: Black insane mother

Next time, try building up a more believable schtick by actually posting a few dozen times. It's pretty obvious if you have four posts and they're all about xoxo, even to someone with TTT logical reasoning like me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391148)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:40 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

I don't know how unbelievable the schtick was. Surely, long time lurkers come out all the time when something raises their ire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391162)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:45 PM
Author: Black insane mother

I'll give you a hint: If they don't care enough to post in the first place...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391193)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:35 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

did you know my thread on crapping on your SO during sex has gotten a lot of views. those lsders are a kinky lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391119)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:36 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

i like you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391133)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:37 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

maybe he wants to come to our side and become a powerful sith lord?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391141)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:41 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Yeah, seriously groundhog. You could be a powerful ally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391165)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:41 PM
Author: Black insane mother

Never. I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391169)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:42 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

It's only a matter of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391177)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:43 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

dude, why not? i am mean srsly do you think those douches who got to schools like chapman will ever amount to anything?

we dont hate them we are trying to educate them so they dont get a jd from some online school based in san juan only to look for legal jobs off craigslist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391182)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:45 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

lol at craigslist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391194)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:48 PM
Author: Black insane mother

This overlooks the high number of users on LSD that are attending T14s. A brief scan of the last 200 topics shows most of the topics are about Harvard, Michigan, or UVA.

Obviously not everyone can go to a T14. Besides the straw man that every other school should be closed or that only acceptance to the trinity is worth not killing self, at the very least xo posters should feel that people attending lower schools validate xo's "prestige".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391215)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:54 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

Of course there are top LSD posters. The point is that there seems to be a lack of willingness--not as bad as TLS--on their part to give straightforward information to poor applicants. Sometimes they do, but I think the real source of tension stems from LSD's extreme buddy-buddy nauseating hug-you-to-death attitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391270)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:00 PM
Author: Tan curious crackhouse

lol, i can't believe you fags are actually having a conversation about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391306)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:05 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

stfu strom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391330)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:11 PM
Author: Tan curious crackhouse

fuck you faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391370)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:06 PM
Author: Black insane mother

Extremely exaggerated. Most people on LSD, while optimists, are not full of BS. If you have a 3.0 and 165 and are asking about your chances at Harvard, no one's going to sugarcoat it for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391336)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:07 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

well, yes, but they won't tell a person that it's not really a good idea to attend a non tier 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391347)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:14 PM
Author: Black insane mother

It depends. If you want to be in biglaw, you may be right. But this overlooks a large proportion of people who don't care if their firm has a vault ranking, or just want to be the local PD/DA or be a JAG or something related to the law. This is why many people choose money at a "lower" school over prestige/ranking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391388)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:31 PM
Author: tantric space round eye

meh, maybe, sure are a lot of personal anecdotes over there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391503)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:34 AM
Author: Black insane mother

Yes. Some people like LSD because it is more personal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394601)





Date: January 10th, 2007 7:56 PM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391980)





Date: January 10th, 2007 10:00 PM
Author: brindle exhilarant tanning salon

LOL, my sig on LSD is 2.1 GPA/141 LSAT Chances at Chapman?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7392903)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:33 AM
Author: Black insane mother

And xo doesn't have its fair share of idiots?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394596)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:45 AM
Author: Vibrant gold hell

You can't talk to 174 like that on this board, bitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394636)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:51 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Anal Fanboi

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394652)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:53 AM
Author: Black insane mother

Apparently xo has more compassion than LSDers usually give them credit for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394656)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:58 AM
Author: Electric Disrespectful Nursing Home Gaming Laptop

The difference is that XOXO has its share of idiots...but only for 10 minutes each because they are promptly harassed, chided, and shamed off the board. It may not be the most humanitarian policy, but it does a good job of preventing people from making potentially disastrous decisions; no one will deny that the legal market has (and will be) oversaturated, and there really may be NO place in law for 2.5/140 applicants. It's a harsh reality, but a realty nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394666)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:00 AM
Author: Black insane mother

I think you are underestimating LSD's realism, especially that of long-time posters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394674)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:06 AM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394692)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:35 AM
Author: Black insane mother

I am waiting to hear back from schools. My LSN is linked on my LSD sig, though it should be obvious enough. Enjoy mocking my TTT credentials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394793)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:41 AM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394815)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:43 AM
Author: Black insane mother

Like I said, my LSN is pretty obvious, especially to someone with a superior LSAT such as yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394821)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:47 AM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394833)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:50 AM
Author: Black insane mother

Nice edit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394843)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:55 AM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394852)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:58 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Anal Fanboi

yo u r so coollll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394861)





Date: January 11th, 2007 4:00 AM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394864)





Date: January 11th, 2007 5:40 AM
Author: Black insane mother

Well that was unwarranted. Anyway, I don't think biglaw is exactly out of reach for me, even if it's not guaranteed. On that note, it's not "my site," although I do moderate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394944)





Date: January 12th, 2007 12:38 AM
Author: Navy outnumbered background story address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7401133)





Date: January 11th, 2007 4:20 AM
Author: Tan curious crackhouse

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394907)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:50 AM
Author: peach area shitlib

Date: January 10th, 2007 5:33 PM

Author: Groundhog

I'm a moderator, not an admin. hth.

---

How does it feel to work your ass off for free so someone else can make money off of you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394842)





Date: January 11th, 2007 4:21 AM
Author: Tan curious crackhouse

like rach? big changes, hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394908)





Date: January 11th, 2007 7:21 AM
Author: Black insane mother

Being a mod doesn't require too much work. There is the occasional reported post, but it only takes a second to clean up, and there are a handful at most per week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394986)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:28 PM
Author: Supple Hairless Forum Idiot

Nope, I'm able to access the page now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391062)